Elizabeth Warren Rejects MoveOn’s Million Dollar Effort To Draft Her For 2016

[sheshe2]

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Warren’s press secretary put an end to dream of drafting the senator in 2016 by saying for the billionth time, “As Senator Warren has said many times, she is not running for president.”

Sen. Warren is not running because she supports Hillary Clinton in 2016. Warren has shown herself to be a tireless campaigner for Democratic candidates and a loyal party member. She seems like anything, but the go it alone type who would break with her party to launch and outsider bid for president.

There is a candidate that would be perfect for the left that groups like MoveOn continue to ignore. Sen. Bernie Sanders is serious about challenging Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary, and he would welcome a million dollar investment in a primary campaign organization.

Whether progressives want to believe it or not, Elizabeth Warren is not running. She has made zero moves towards a bid for the presidency. If groups like MoveOn were smart, they would be lining up behind Sanders and stop wasting their time chasing the fantasy of Elizabeth Warren in 2016.

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/12/09/elizabeth-warren-rejects-moveons-million-dollar-effort-draft-2016.html

When a woman says no, she means it. No is no.

[hrmjustin]

1. I don't think she wants to go through a campaign.

She would be a formidable candidate but I think she has no desire to run.

[MannyGoldstein]

2. Hillary said no, too.

She must mean it, too.

[hrmjustin]

3. Hillary said she is thinking about it.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

70. Tru dat. Hillary IS not running, just as Elizabeth IS not running, but may decide to run sometime in the future.

[Adrahil]

80. Hillary has made it very clear she is seriously considering the run (she will run)

Elizabeth has made it pretty damn clear she won't. And I think that's smart. I'd love to see her in the Veep slot, and get cued up for 2024.

[Smarmie Doofus]

88. She'll be 75 in 2024.

I don't think that's part of the plan.

[Adrahil]

92. I'd vote for her. :)

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

93. Elizabeth would definitely add that "new car smell" to the ticket & would be an excellent VP choice if indeed she won't run for the top slot

If she does decide to run, so much the better. She'll have my vote and that of pretty much everyone in my immediate family, but for two diehard Bernie fans (one being my wife). I'm hoping, with Elizabeth on the ballot, he may decide to step aside, which would then make it a clean sweep.

[hrmjustin]

96. Yes people can change their minds. If Hillary doesn't run Warren would likely run then.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

113. Yes, I think that's a given.

[woo me with science]

85. GO HILLARY! More warmongering, more torture, more TPP, more surveillance state, more police state,

More soul-sucking apologism, mind-numbing propaganda, abetting the banks and criminals, corporate/MIC domination, and sending the soul of this nation into the sewer.

THIRD WAY GHOULS.....NOTHING IS BEYOND OUR REACH.

Hillary Clinton's leading role in drafting the TPP
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101667554

Hillary Clinton and Trade Deals: That “Giant Sucking Sound”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016101761

Hillary Clinton Cheerleads for Biotech and GMOs
http://www.democraticunderground.com/112772326

Dissecting Hillary Clinton's Neocon Talking Points - Atlantic Interview
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017209519

NYTimes notices Hillary's natural affinity toward the neocons.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025205645

Hillary Clinton, the unrepentant hawk
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024876898

More from Hillary Clinton's State Department: The fascistic TISA (Trade in Services Agreement)
http://m.thenation.com/blog/180572-grassroots-labor-uprising-your-bank

How Hillary Clinton's State Department sold fracking to the world
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251376647

Hillary Clinton Sides with NSA over Snowden Disclosures
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101695441

On the NSA, Hillary Clinton Is Either a Fool or a Liar
http://m.thenation.com/article/180564-nsa-hillary-clinton-either-fool-or-liar

Corporate Warfare: Hillary Clinton admits role in Honduran coup aftermath
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025601610#post29

The Bill and Hillary Clinton Money Machine Taps Corporate Cash
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025189257

Hillary's Privatization Plan: TISA kept more secret than the TPP
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014829628

Hillary Clinton criticizes Obama's foreign policy 'failure'; strongly defends Israel
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014867136

Some of Hillary Clinton's statements on Social Security.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024379279

Hillary Clinton's GOLDMAN SACHS PROBLEM.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025049343

Ring of Fire: Hillary Clinton - The Perfect Republican Candidate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017209285

How Americans Need Answers From Hillary Clinton On TPP, KXL, Wall St & More
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017181611

Hillary Clinton Left Out By Liberal Donor Club
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025809071

Why Wall Street Loves Hillary
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016106575

Hillary Clinton: Neocon-lite
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101684986

Interactive graphic of Hillary Clinton's connections to the Forbes top 400 (Follow link in post)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025824981#post9

Leaving pathetic Third Way talking points thread now. Corporatism and its propaganda are the moral rot and cancer destroying this nation.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

94. LOL, tell us how you really feel. Like you, I'm sick of Hillary's Third Way politics.

I'd much prefer a candidate who's not bought and paid for by Wall Street rip-of artists. We need someone like Elizabeth who represents true progressive values.

[hrmjustin]

95. I hope you are not calling me a third way ghoul. n/t.

[daleanime]

4. We wish...

[Major Hogwash]

5. Well, that's the end of that!

It is so easy being the president of your fan club, sheshe2.

[sheshe2]

15. Lol~

She is my great Senator from Ma. She knows what she wants to do and is doing it. She will be an amazing asset to Ma, The Senate and This Country, just like Teddy did. That is the seat she holds.

There is no stopping here, she will indeed make history.

I met her Major, she is a force to be reckoned with.

[still_one]

6. what!!! A few folks here kept insisting she was speaking secret code and really plans to run

[Cleita]

7. I'm okay with Bernie or other dark horse on the horizon.

Hillary would be at the bottom of my list although I guess she will be the candidate, but she can't win against a Republican.

[Thinkingabout]

11. The polls say you are wrong on this.

[Cleita]

17. There are all kinds of polls out there. Do you have a specific

one in mind? Also, a lot changes in a couple of years.

[hrmjustin]

19. Here is a recent poll.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/08/politics/2016-poll/

[ChisolmTrailDem]

21. Here's another:

Well, from April anyway.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024833388

I'll see if I can find a more recent one.

[hrmjustin]

22. That is not a scientific poll.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

23. It shows that DUers support EW or BS over HC all day long. nt

[hrmjustin]

25. The fact that a majority of the most active posters do not want Hillary as the nominee is not in

dispute.

But it is not a scientific poll.

[VanillaRhapsody]

52. and DU doesn't represent MOST Democrats either...

we DO have alot of Left Leaning Independents on board....

[Cali_Democrat]

57. Bwhahahaha! You're pimping an internet poll of DUers?

One of the options in the poll is "Elisabeth Warren"

[aspirant]

29. Polls are unverifiable opinion surveys

that are estimates, guesses at best.

Call the polling company and ask for the composition of the random sample, people's names and contact info so you can validate their figures. You are going to get the answer, ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! I've done it.

There are no govt agencies overseeing their data. AAPOR is an org that asks polling companies to sign a code of ethics with no verifiable access to their data. I've asked AAPOR, how do we know they aren't making up the figures out of thin air if no one can check them, absolute silence on the phone.

Inferential vs Descriptive stats, please understand the difference.

When are we finally going to flush these propaganda surveys down the toilet where they belong?

[hrmjustin]

31. You make good points and the numbers will move over the course of next year.

But at this point it is clear she has the early lead.

[aspirant]

32. She has the early lead

among the random sample(300,400, whatever #), not the 360 million Americans.

[hrmjustin]

33. Well i think the polling is very clear but as I said it will change.

[Agschmid]

34. You realize that the random sample, if the sample size is large enough and polled correctly is

accurate right?

[aspirant]

35. No, it's an estimate,guess

Descriptive stats describe a sample only.

Inferential stats infer predictions,(remember Nostradamus, psychics) estimates about a larger population than the sample represents.

Anyone who thinks 350 people can tell you exactly what 360 million people think is in LALA land.

This is how the power brokers condition the sheep to control their thoughts. WAKE UP

[Agschmid]

36. We have a difference of opinion here.

I'll enjoy my time in lala land where science and math are things.

[aspirant]

44. We agree that the lala land of polls

are just ordinary things, not empirical facts.

[VanillaRhapsody]

53. How about polling trends...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/

[aspirant]

61. I have no problem with predictions, estimates, guesses and trends

just not taking them as empirical verifiable facts. This applies to any poll, no matter which side.

Trends=tendency,inclination or drift

[VanillaRhapsody]

63. Like a Climate Change denier would you mean????

[aspirant]

66. Any empirical verifiable facts with climate change, I'm all in

Instrumental readings of air quality, Ph of the oceans, ETC. but trends and guesses count me out.

Would you risk your life on a prediction?

[VanillaRhapsody]

68. No the Climate Change Scientists have THEORIES....

and with those theories they predict...


You confusing them with WEATHER prediction...

[aspirant]

69. Theories to predict what?

The end of the world based upon poisons in the air. Is it a theory that when we have no oxygen left in the air, we will die. Would you like to test that theory or concede it's a fact. CLIMATE Change is not part of the weather? Are you saying the % of gases that exist in the atmosphere doesn't affect the CLIMATE or weather?

Would you risk your life on a prediction?

[VanillaRhapsody]

99. Predict what?

Are you serious here? If so....I find it hard to believe...

They PREDICT what will happen IF the temperatures rise....they PREDICT what will happen in 100 years or more...THAT is a THEORY...

[aspirant]

108. Empirical verifiable facts aren't theory

Global Warming, Climate Change whatever the terms, I choose to call it Life Threatening/Life Enhancing.

Empirical verifiable facts= count me in; Predictions, estimates or guesses=count me out.

If you are threatening life by poisoning the air, soils and water, I say stop it now and you won't have to worry what happens in a 100 years.

If ozone holes are factually attributed to CFC'S, stop them now and profits be damned.
Carbon Dioxide=100,000 ppm immediately dangerous to life (fact); so if we see CO2 #'s rising, stop it now.
If atmospheric oxygen levels are falling stop it now. (O2 levels less than 19.5% may produce death, less than 12% death may occur without warning.)

I'm as serious as death itself.

I've answered your questions now you answer mine!

WOULD YOU RISK YOUR LIFE ON PREDICTIONS, ESTIMATES OR GUESSES?

[whatthehey]

100. what do you think the MOE is on a sample of 450?

[aspirant]

109. It's unimportant, because it's based on a guess

The opinion survey for Mcturtle's race was too close to call, yet he won by 15% which was way outside the margin of error. So we only laugh at that poll and none of the others?

[Major Hogwash]

60. Sample size has nothing to do with it.

And any statistician worth his salt will tell you that.

[aspirant]

64. Nothing to do with what?

That any inferential opinion survey(poll) is a prediction, estimate, or guess and not an empirical verifiable fact regardless of the sample size?

[leftynyc]

106. A self selecting poll

of people on a decidedly left wing site is your evidence? Do you understand what makes a poll a scientific poll? Does that need to be explained to you?

[Thinkingabout]

24. Okay here goes

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/poll-gop-presidential-race-wide-open-hillary-clinton-leads-jeb-bush-in-theoretical-matchup/2014/04/29/44c75634-cfb9-11e3-b812-0c92213941f4_story.html


http://www.latinpost.com/articles/27342/20141209/2016-presidential-election-candidates-odds-clinton-dominates-polls-vs-gops.htm

http://www.news.nom.co/2016-presidential-election-14052228-news/

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/07/24/poll-clinton-vs-tba-republican-in-2016/


Now that I have provided a link to polls, how about you furnish polls saying she isn't polling on top.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

8. I see they're still using present tense verbiage, just as she has all along. I'm still waiting to

hear this: "I WILL NOT run for president", not the same old "I am not running" and "She is not running".

[AtomicKitten]

13. My thoughts exactly.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

16. What everyone seems to forget is that NOBODY is currently running for president. The closest anyone

comes is Bernie Sanders and that's because he's the only one (besides EW) that is out there putting their policies on record.

[Buns_of_Fire]

40. Everyone always forgets Vermin Supreme!

I think he's the odds-on favorite among declared candidates. Nothing coy about that lad, no sir. And until and unless someone better declares, I pledge my full support to his campaign.

[Cha]

41. You know.. I forgot about Vermin Supreme.. thanks for the bloody

reminder, Buns_of _Fire.

[Buns_of_Fire]

42. In the interests of Good Government, you're quite welcome.

After all, I would be remiss if I didn't remind people of the ONLY candidate who has promised a pony for every American if elected!

[Cha]

43. A pony in every pot.. or is that some pot with

every pony?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

71. Exactly! Guess it depends on what the meaning of "is" is to quote Hillary's hubby.

[Cha]

9. That kinda puts the kibosh on it.. if you're wavering about running and want to have

options down the road in a year or whenever.. you don't say no to a Million$$$$$$, do ya?

Thanks, she~

[baldguy]

37. And yet there will be some people expecting to see Santa Claus on Christmas Eve, too.

[Thinkingabout]

10. Perhaps Elizabeth Warren is in the best position to know her feelings.

Both EW and HRC sit in the same position on the ratings, has a lot of the same positions on the issues.

[Jamaal510]

12. No means yes.

Joking aside, I agree that would be a much smarter idea--to spend money to draft Sanders instead. Get his name out there for everyone outside of Vermont. I originally wanted her to run, but EW appears to be happy where she is, anyway, and is making a difference just by being a Senator.

[Cha]

28. Really. thanks Jamaal

[PDittie]

72. THIS

Why isn't MoveOn advocating for Sanders (since Warren has told them no several times)? Sanders himself has said he's looking for the support necessary to make a bid. Why is MoveOn and DFA ignoring him?

Is it because Sanders is McGovernesque (read: 'unelectable')? That he wouldn't be able to raise the necessary $80-100 million from corporate PACs to win? Because he's not really a Democrat? Because he's too old?

This reminds me of the guy who keeps calling the girl he wants to take to the prom -- even though she's said no a hundred times -- when the girl who would say yes sits right beside him. Desperate and dumb, in other words.

I find MoveOn's continued entreaties to be a little embarrassing for them at this point. Move on, indeed.

[MADem]

131. Perhaps it is because MOVEON has adopted a pro-Palestinian position and Sanders is more nuanced on

the matter?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/in-the-loop/wp/2014/08/20/answering-question-on-israel-bernie-sanders-tells-townhall-hecklers-to-shut-up/

Progressives have wanted Sanders to be more forceful in condemning Israel. Before Congress’ August recess, the Senate passed a resolution unanimously reaffirming its support for Israel. Sanders did not object, but he also did not sign on as a co-sponsor. As the Daily Beast writes, Israel puts left-wing politicians like Sanders in a tough spot because their base can be critical of Israel, but not taking a pro-Israel position is politically risky.

Warren has disavowed "Ready for Warren" and now she has disavowed "MoveOn" as well. No does mean no--it's a bit unseemly that people won't take this woman at her word.

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/12/09/elizabeth-warren-rejects-moveons-million-dollar-effort-draft-2016.html

Warren’s press secretary put an end to dream of drafting the senator in 2016 by saying for the billionth time, “As Senator Warren has said many times, she is not running for president.”

Sen. Warren is not running because she supports Hillary Clinton in 2016. Warren has shown herself to be a tireless campaigner for Democratic candidates and a loyal party member. She seems like anything, but the go it alone type who would break with her party to launch and outsider bid for president.

There is a candidate that would be perfect for the left that groups like MoveOn continue to ignore. Sen. Bernie Sanders is serious about challenging Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary, and he would welcome a million dollar investment in a primary campaign organization.

Whether progressives want to believe it or not, Elizabeth Warren is not running. She has made zero moves towards a bid for the presidency. If groups like MoveOn were smart, they would be lining up behind Sanders and stop wasting their time chasing the fantasy of Elizabeth Warren in 2016.

[KitSileya]

14. Respecting her no is the best way to respect her.

Such icky connotations spending a million dollars to pressure a woman from no to yes. There's a lot of better things those million dollars could have been used for.

[my morning pages]

18. Of course she's not running!

She wants to live a long, happy life...

[PAProgressive28]

20. She's not running

but Bernie is. Let's get together for him. I'm tired of people stalking her around America trying to get her to run. The dream is over.

[Scootaloo]

27. But haven't you heard? Liberals can't win

[TheNutcracker]

26. I'm still supporting Sanders. I have believed Liz from the beginning.

She has nothing 'exploratory' going on.

[Terra Alta]

30. iirc, Obama said he would serve his full Senate term

And we all know how that turned out. People change their minds all the time and sometimes "no" isn't the final answer.

[brooklynite]

38. When I saw the originial story, I could see this coming...

I've been saying for months that fantasy dreams about Warren are only going to lead to disappointment, and that if people really are desperate for an alternative to Clinton, they need to be serious about finding and convincing someone else.

But nobody ever listens to me.....

[RiverLover]

39. Dog & Pony show

We'll see when the primaries start & if she isn't in the running, THEN you can all say 'told ya so'.

[SidDithers]

45. But those are just her words...

you have to look at the underlying subtext and conditional phrasing to get to her true meaning.

Sid

[justiceischeap]

46. I find it ironic that one of the things many progressives like about Warren is she's different

from other politicians. She, or at least we think so, says what she means, she's a champion for the little guy, she fights against Wall Street and yet when she says she's not running for President in 2016 and even goes as far as throwing her support to Clinton, we then assume she's being like every other bloody politician that says one thing but means another.

Either she's different or she isn't, make up your minds. Frankly, I think y'all need to let the dream go because parsing her verbiage isn't going to change the answer--she is not running for President in 2016.

[TitForTat]

47. Good.

She is as unelectable a politician as the democrats have. She should stay far away from the primary. Her use would be ginning up the base to vote for an electable candidate.

[arcane1]

48. Really? The most unelectable?

You do realize she was elected to the Senate, right?

[leftynyc]

107. Using that (terrible) logic

Louis Gohmert could win the Presidency. Do you actually believe that?

[arcane1]

112. Of course not. Nice try though.

My post went right over your head.

Do you agree that Warren is the most unelectable Democrat?

[leftynyc]

120. Given that Bernie is not a Democrat

I would say yes. I love her, supported her campaign with funds because I thought she'd make a great Senator but she could never be election nationwide. It would be living the McGovern race all over again.

[Logical]

124. LOL, enjoy your short stay. Nt

[treestar]

49. If she is supporting Hillary Clinton she must be a corporatist

And a Third Wayer. Cognitive dissonance strikes!

[Cha]

55. You better throw "authoritarian" in there for good measure, treestar!

[treestar]

97. How could I have missed that?

Stealing from you again, Cha :

[Cha]

111. YOu're funny! I like it!

Yeah, I was thinking it was time you got rid of the 2014 BLUE WAVE!

[Major Hogwash]

59. She probably drinks Starbucks coffee, too!

And eats at the *gasp* Olive Garden!!!

[William769]

50. Senator Warren is a good lady and I respect her decision.

After all it is hers to make.

If Hillary decides to run Senator Warren will be right up there with Howard Dean to support her.

I think we have a lot of good candidates to run in the primary and the primary is good for a spirited debate. And whoever our Nominee is, I will gladly vote for them.

Yes I am a big Hillary supporter but that does not mean I don't believe in the process to get us the candidate.

Anyone that says I will never vote for candidate X, well that's just sad.

[polichick]

51. That leaves plenty of space for Sen. Sanders.

[longship]

54. But... But... But... She did not say she won't run!!!!!!!

She only says she is not running!!!! Which leaves the question open...

In my dreams!

I love a Elizabeth Warren. But how many times does she have to answer this question before people will get it through their thick skulls that she wants to be a US Senator, not a US President.

What I really fear is that all these knuckleheads, who parse every statement she makes on the subject, will drive her from the Senate because she gets sick and fucking tired of her fans who seemingly cannot understand simple English.

She is not going to run for President and has said so so fucking many times.

So let's put away our Warren 2016 banners and start cheering her on as a great Senator. She needs our support.

Or, maybe you'd rather Elizabeth Warren to be an equivocator. Myself, I take her at her word.

Sheesh!

[Cali_Democrat]

56. "When a woman says no, she means it. No is no."

Oh...you're bad!

[sheshe2]

58. Caught that did ya~

[Samantha]

62. Saying she is not running for President is not saying she will not run for Vice President, does it?

I think she would take that spot if offered it. Don't you think Bill would suggest that to Hillary? What bogs Hillary down is her Third Way standing. What would offset that would be Ms. Warren sitting in the second chair. Remember that "doors" comment ....

Sam

[sheshe2]

65. Hey Sam~

She is going to be one hell of a Seanator. It is where she wants to be,.

[Samantha]

114. And she certainly is excellent at it

but I wonder everytime she says "I am not running for President" why she always says precisely those exact words. And, as I said before, there is that "doors" comment....

Sam

[marions ghost]

67. In your dreams

we are nowhere NEAR being a society that would allow two women to run the govt.
Period.

[Samantha]

115. I thought about that before you brought it up

and I have to say I disagree. I think there are enough "thinking" American voters who would support two women on the ticket if they thought that was the most qualified team.

There were people in 2007 who said the Country was not ready to put an African-American in the Oval Office and you see that turned out.

Sam

[marions ghost]

136. It helps that the African-Amer is a man

....Maybe someday....

IMO it would be more radical for a woman to become president than a man of any heritage.

[True Blue Door]

73. Consider Jerry Brown.

Personally, I think it's about time California started kicking some ass federally. We've got a lot to answer for karmically, having inflicted Nixon and Reagan on the country, so maybe now we can make up for it.

And for people who live elsewhere, look at what he's accomplished and how easily he bitch-slaps Republicans around. Think about it.

[mfcorey1]

74. Everyone just wants to get her out her current enviroment and put her in a controlled

environment like the presidency where she will have to be careful about what she says and does. Stay where you are, Liz, and give them hell.

[sheshe2]

134. My thoughts exactly mfcorey. nt

[RiverLover]

75. Jeesh, she's got DFA & MoveOn backing her. Are we really that naive to think they'd do that

if they didn't know she would run? She only says "I'm not running for president", and she isn't. But these two groups would not back someone with no hope of running.

Let's get a little politically savvy here. Do you think maybe EW has some major battles going on against Wall Street taking over our Treasury dept & doesn't want distraction from a very imp fight? Do you think maybe she wants to wait for the right time to announce & begin that particular media circus?

MoveOn released their first video for Warren~

Don't even try to say they did this if there was a chance Warren wasn't going to run. Don't be naive.

[brooklynite]

76. Out of curiosity, where has DFA or MoveOn been effective in its advocacy?

I'm not aware of any notable "wins" for either of them.

[RiverLover]

77. Barack Obama

[brooklynite]

78. Explain...

I'm aware that OBAMA put together a formidable campaign machine; I'me not aware that either DFA or MoveOn had any significant influence in convincing him to run or convincing people to vote for him.

[RiverLover]

79. MOveOn backed him. That's when I joined up with them.

It worked for my vote(s).

[brooklynite]

87. You are, what we call in the biz, a "statistically insignificant sample"...

[RiverLover]

89. Feb '08--3.2 Mill MoveOn Members Nationwide Mobilize to Get Out the Progressive Vote for Sen Obama

(Now there are over EIGHT million members)

http://moveon.org/press/pr/obamaendorsementrelease.html

[whathehell]

81. Well, she hasn't said "no" to running for vice president, has she?

[RiverLover]

82. She hasn't said no for president either. Just that she isn't running at this time.

She hasn't said its ruled out.

And she's talked of "wonderful doors that could open in the future."

We can't waste her as a VP. I'd rather see her in the senate. Our country needs her.

[whathehell]

83. I'd love to see her run for president..

but I get the feeling she's serious about '16.

[RiverLover]

84. I just bet then you will be pleasantly surprised, sometime btn now & mid-Feb is my guess!

The title of this article is way off. If she'd actually called MoveOn & said, look you are wasting your money & considerable influence on me because there's no way I will run for 2016, they wouldn't be doing this. Her PR person just said the standard line when called by the press, "EW isn't running for president" and she isn't.

I can't wait to cast my vote in the primaries. Although I have to admit, I hope Al Franken runs too. I'd like to see his position on things.

[whathehell]

86. Wow...Let's hope!

[brooklynite]

102. The problem with dreaming is that eventually you wake up...

If she surprises you and DOESN'T run, don't complain that you were "denied a choice", when you had months to try and find someone who actually was interested in running.

[whathehell]

103. No shit, Sherlock, but "hope" doesn't equal "dreaming", which is something

I've no problem with anyway, so I suggest you find someone else you

feel qualified to "lecture" as you are not qualified to do it with me.

[brooklynite]

104. As long as you won't be complaining...

...if things don't turn out you way, "keep hope alive".

[whathehell]

105. Oh, I see, If you can't lecture, you try giving "orders" and "ultimatums", LOL

I have no idea who died and left you boss, bro, but you are so arrogant

and out of line, that you're almost laughable.

FYI -- If I "complain" -- and I will if I so choose -- I can assure you it will NOT be

to you...Now, run along and find someone else to try to push around.

[treestar]

98. You'd have to be willing to be President

[whathehell]

101. True, but all she said was "I'm not running for President"

which she wouldn't be.

[Major Hogwash]

118. She hasn't said "no" to running in the Boston Marathon, either.

But, I highly doubt that she will!!

Let's go completely off the deep end and root for her to win the Boston Marathon anyway!

[whathehell]

121. If this is this what passes for wit in your circles..

I offer condolences to your friends.

[deutsey]

90. Whether she runs or not, we for her to continue speaking out

like she did yesterday:

Elizabeth Warren came out swinging against a Capitol Hill compromise that she says undermines protections established after the financial crisis.

She blasted a change to the government funding bill as "the worst of government for the rich and powerful." Major banks lobbied for the provision, which "would let derivatives traders on Wall Street gamble with taxpayer money and get bailed out by the government when their risky bets threaten to blow up our financial system," she said.

"This provision is all about goosing the profits of the big banks," she said. "People are frustrated with Congress. ... If big companies can deploy their armies of lawyers and lobbyists to get the Congress to vote for special deals that will benefit themselves, then we will simply confirm the view of the American people that the system is rigged."

http://money.cnn.com/2014/12/10/news/economy/elizabeth-warren/

[NCTraveler]

91. Suggestion.

Those who want her to run should be sending her emails and calling her office. Tell Move On you support her running. As a big Hillary fan I can honestly say I wan Warren in the race. It would be great for our party. Her thoughts and words on financial issues should be the direction of our party. If she enters the race, gets vetted at that level, there is an extremely good chance she will get my vote in the primary. All of this talk of if she is running or not is somewhat a waste of time. Pressure for candidates to run doesn't come from du. It comes from other avenues. I look forward to seeing who actually enters the race. Until then, as far as du is concerned, who cares. It is an exercise of futility. Real pressure comes from other outlets, not here.

Email her. Call her office. Email organizations supporting her for a run. Let them know you will open your bank account to her.

[Derek V]

110. I agree, sheshe

Seems clear to me that she's not running this time; 2024 is a whole other matter.

[Beacool]

116. Watch her fan club twist themselves into a pretzel trying to parse her words.

I guess that she'll have to say NO another billion times.

[Major Hogwash]

117. Just like the Clinton fan club twisted themselves into pretzels while parsing her every word!!

And yet, neither of those fan clubs have a president of their own fan club here at DU!!

Sooooo, in essence, with that in mind, with no further ado, that means that Sheshe2 should run for President . . because at least her fan club has a president.
That's quite a precedent, if you ask me!

And that precedent for having presidents of fan clubs was set in stone here at the DU quite awhile ago.

Face it, Hill and Liz don't stand a chance of becoming President when compared to Sheshe2!
How could they compare?
Neither one of them will take DU's latest litmus test and swear not to torture other people if elected President.
Yet, Sheshe2 would never condone that sort of thing!

So, you can plainly see who has the inside track on this President thing for yourself!

[bravenak]

126. I recommend this post.

I may need to change my sigline.

[sheshe2]

129. K~ I am laughing here, bravenak...

Take some courses, I will appoint you as AG!

Wait What....you would have to write my speeches as well.

Hey, I liked your sig line! But thanks for that~

[bravenak]

130. Ooooh, sounds like a job I'd do well at.

At least I would on Politics Nation with Al Sharpton.

I'd write anything you needed. Anything. Just run it past the fanclub prez....

[sheshe2]

128. ROFLMAO!

Thanks Major, I will make you SOS~

[Logical]

125. Don't you understand? Hillary is such a terrible candidate were praying for someone else! Nt

[AtomicKitten]

119. So you're saying there's a chance?

[RiverLover]

135. Definitely. This article title was so misleading and so yellow journalistic.

All EW's PR person said when the media called her was the standard line for over the last YEAR, "EW is not running for president." There's no need to parse words. Its clearly smart politics. She isn't running. No one is. Yet.

[hueymahl]

122. The co-opting of "no means no" is a little distasteful.

Not really something I like to joke about, but to each their own, I suppose.

[davidpdx]

123. As a Moveon member that voted yes, I am disappointed

The idea of drafting her by Moveon was not a good idea in the first place.

We need some decent opposition in the primary. I am still holding out hope someone else will fill the void. It's still early, but we need someone in the race who isn't a corporatist and war-hawk.

A primary with one strong candidate isn't going to be a strong sell for the general election. It's going to be less so if it is Clinton vs. Bush.

[PowerToThePeople]

127. Sanders, 2016.

[UglyGreed]

132. That's too bad

I signed up, wished she would run. We need change.

[Lil Missy]

133. And once again, heads on DU explode.

[Autumn]

137. No one is running. Yet.

[LiberalElite]

138. Well then there's no one for me to vote for nt