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Sat Jun 14, 2014, 02:33 PM

Hillary Clinton Sides with NSA over Snowden Disclosures

Hillary Clinton Sides with NSA over Snowden Disclosures

Likely presidential candidate criticizes whistleblower for
not going through proper channels and defends US global surveillance practices


- Sarah Lazare, staff writer
Published on Friday, June 13, 2014 by Common Dreams


Hillary Clinton (Photo: Wikimedia / Creative Commons)

Likely 2016 presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has taken a firm stance against the actions of NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, denying his revelations have brought any positive impacts and slamming him for accepting asylum in Russia.

Speaking with NPR's Terry Gross on Thursday, Clinton claimed Snowden could have "expressed his concerns" in other ways "by reaching out to some of the senators or other members of Congress or journalists in order to convey his questions about the implementation of the laws surrounding the collection of information concerning Americans' calls and emails."

Her comments sparked criticism from progressives, journalists and civil liberties advocates.

"[Clinton] is just piling on with others who criticized Snowden, not recognizing that if it were not for him and his courageous disclosures, we wouldn't even know our government is routinely violating our 4th amendment rights," Matt Rothschild, senior editor of The Progressive magazine, told Common Dreams.

The former U.S. Secretary of State defended U.S. mass surveillance, stating, "collecting information about what’s going around the world is essential to our security." She added, "The pieces about the metadata collection, the other impacts on Americans, is a small sliver of what was stolen. Most of what was stolen concerned the surveillance that the United States undertakes, totally legally, against other nations."

Continued at CommonDreams.org
https://www.commondreams.org/headline/2014/06/13-6

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Response to newthinking (Original post)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 02:38 PM

1. What a shock!

 

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Response to newthinking (Original post)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 02:45 PM

2. I'm sure she does.

 

The NSA spying apparatus is remarkably ineffective at catching terrorists. Not a problem, as that's not what it's intended to do. Its intended to protect a corporate-controlled govt from a domestic popular uprising. Occupy and Keystone XL protests are just the Beta-testing. All thats needed now is a legal authority to ise it... which a corporate-controlled SCOTUS will gladly supply.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 15, 2014, 04:40 AM

10. I have seen the enemy. And he is us.

 

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Response to newthinking (Original post)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 02:55 PM

3. I'm SHOCKED! SHOCKED! nt

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Response to newthinking (Original post)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 02:56 PM

4. It's not up to the government to get it right, Ed, it's up to you.

In fact, if YOU don't get it right, Ed, then the government can do as it likes. If you don't complain in the right way, it's just like you never complained at all.

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Response to bemildred (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 15, 2014, 04:41 AM

11. Snowden knew he was a DEAD MAN if they ever got their hands on him. You don't cross the 1%, and live

 

to tell about it, brother!

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Response to newthinking (Original post)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 03:55 PM

5. Snowden knew what happened with previous whistleblowers

The "correct" internal process of complaining actually resulted in them being exposed, blackballed and charged like criminals. They were neutralized and the mass surveillance just kept charging ahead.

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Response to cprise (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 15, 2014, 04:44 AM

12. There's NO satisfaction to be had from a massively corrupt Washington DC.

 

It's a racket

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Response to newthinking (Original post)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 03:55 PM

6. Justifies my decision never to cast a vote in her favor. [n/t]

 

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Response to Maedhros (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 15, 2014, 04:44 AM

13. +1,000

 

Just another 1%'er

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Response to newthinking (Original post)

Sat Jun 14, 2014, 04:22 PM

7. To absolutely no one's surprise. n/t

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Response to JoeyT (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 15, 2014, 04:46 AM

14. I don't think HRC is THAT out of touch. She's in on this whole thing. That leaves 1 good explanation

 

remaining...

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Response to newthinking (Original post)

Sun Jun 15, 2014, 12:35 AM

8. that's just so she can juke left 2017: after all, America's workers have no better fighter on their

side!

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Response to newthinking (Original post)

Sun Jun 15, 2014, 04:34 AM

9. Queen Blue Dog, Ms. Third Way, Corporate ConservaDem, wanna-be Triangulator in Chief, says stuff!

 

Clinton/Cuomo 2016:
"You don't need no stinkin' choices!"


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Response to newthinking (Original post)

Sun Jun 15, 2014, 09:22 AM

15. Now there's the least surprising thing I've read today.

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Response to marmar (Reply #15)

Sun Jun 15, 2014, 05:12 PM

16. Well Barnes & Noble in my area has her book at 30% off.....

It's a thick book with wide white space margins and fairly large typeface. To me...signifying heft over content.. Quickly thumbed, through...and it sort of seems like a Campaign Memoir (even though it's about her SOS experience...and I expect the main revelations will have already been put out there in the Blogosphere...so I passed on buying it.

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Response to newthinking (Original post)

Wed Jun 18, 2014, 03:48 AM

17. Yet without Snowden's relevations


Hillary couldn't have made this statement







Hillary Clinton says Merkel right to be upset over bugged phone: "It was absolutely uncalled for"

In an interview with Fox News on Tuesday, Clinton said German Chancellor Angela Merkel had every right to be upset with disclosures that the National Security Agency had listened in on her cellphone as part of its large-scale surveillance of electronic communications in Germany.

"It was absolutely uncalled for," Clinton said.

"There is work that we need to do with the Germans and inside Germany," she said, recalling that some of the hijackers in the Sept. 11 attacks got part of their training in Hamburg.

But Clinton added: "That has nothing has to do with Angela Merkel's cellphone, and that should be off limits."


read: www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/18/us-hillary-syria-idUSKBN0ES31M20140618?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=992637


Total disconnect....

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