A funny thing happened on the way to Mau-mauing Barack Obama

[sheshe2]

By Liberal Librarian

So, Senator Elizabeth Warren and presidential candidate Senator Bernie Sanders have been on the warpath over the Trans-Pacific Partnership and its attendant fast track trade authority. In doing so, they have engendered much support among the usual—and some not-so-usual—sectors. Namely, the people who always thought Barack Obama was a sell-out to corporate special interests, evidenced by him not frog-marching Jamie Dimon and other banksters to stand for federal indictments over the 2008 meltdown.

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It’s the idea that Pres. Obama would cavalierly undo one of his signature achievements—setting up rules so that 2008 didn’t happen again, rules which he plucked an obscure academic named Elizabeth Warren to help implement—to coddle the same Wall Street is ludicrous on its face.

Of course, it’s not ludicrous if one thinks that “Obama was always going to betray us.” The sense of perpetual disappointment—both on the Left and the Right—drives much of the country’s political culture. This is due, in large part, because of the apparent lack of legitimacy of many government institutions, stoked by a right-wing drive to paint all government as useless, and a concomitant view on the left that the government is a subsidiary of corporate America.

But people who should know better are now feeding the fires of disillusion.

Sen. Warren’s main gripe is that “the public isn’t seeing the bill”. Oddly, as this interview with Greg Sargent illustrates, she keeps moving the goal posts. She, of course, can see the negotiating text in full. It then becomes: “Fast track won’t allow Congress to make changes to the deal”. The problem is that fast track can be revoked if the deal doesn’t meet its stated aims in Congress’ opinion. Then she goes through some more of Pres. Obama’s “hypotheticals”—all hypotheticals that require GOP control of the White House and Congress after 2016. Which would be a good reason to focus energy on winning 2016, rather than shivving the party’s sitting President in the back.

Please Read the Rest http://theobamadiary.com/2015/05/11/a-funny-thing-happened-on-the-way-to-mau-mauing-barack-obama/#more-202424

[Hoyt]

1. He was moved from Kenya to Hawaii to sell us into slavery 50 years later.

I guess my tbag neighbor was right all along.

Good article.

[sheshe2]

4. Hey Hoyt, thanks.

Oh, nooooos. He has had an evil plan for 50 years! Lol~ he is going to sell us white people into slavery.

I guess that is why there is so much push-back, white America is dying. It will end by 2042, or so I have read from the census bureau. This white woman is so happy to hear that we will become the United States of all races.

[freshwest]

8. Now you did it. There's a video detailing the plot that began before he was born:

See, something for everyone!

[Hoyt]

9. LMAO. I never could figure out how they planted the 1960 birth announcement in the Hawaiian paper.

[freshwest]

11. It was either that or Obama did it when he went to Mars to start a birth certificate printing press!

Obama did it through time travel and a wormhole. And get this:

He was sent by the CIA and DARPA as a teenager! See, CIA! CIA! CIA!

Obama should have gone back and eliminated all evil from before his birth in the Kenyan province of Hawaii.



But they do have a point about PBO and the alphabet agencies. Here's the proof. He's been one of them for many years...

Forget Kenya. Never mind the secret madrassas. The sinister, shocking truth about Barack Obama’s past lies not in east Africa, but in outer space. As a young man in the early 1980s, Obama was part of a secret CIA project to explore Mars. The future president teleported there, along with the future head of Darpa...

Obama wasn’t the only one making the otherworldly voyage. As “Barry Soetero,” the 19-year-old Obama was one of 10 youths selected to secretly teleport to and from Mars, forming a band of interplanetary Teen Titans. Regina Dugan, the director of Darpa, was another member. Between 1981 and 1983, Obama is supposed to have visited Mars twice, by way of a teleportation chamber called a “jump room.” Basiago, a fellow chrononaut, told the website Exopolitics that he saw Obama “walk back to the jump room from across the Martian terrain.” To acknowledge his comrade, Obama is said to have told Basiago, “'We’re here'” - apparently, “with some sense of fatalism.”

It is not known what exactly Obama did on Mars. (Socializing Martian health care, perhaps? Building a birth-certificate printing press?) His mission was a perilous one, according to Basiago and Stillings. The CIA wished to “establish a defense regime protecting the Earth from threats from space” as well as a legal claim to “territorial sovereignty,” making Obama something of a Martian conquistador. Presumably, Obama’s CIA handlers needed him to “acclimate Martian humanoids and animals to their presence” in order to secure the U.S.-Martian alliance. (We’ll bet you weren’t even aware of Martian animals.)

“Simply put, your task is to be seen and not eaten,” an elder chrononaut, retired Army Maj. Ed Dames, is alleged to have told a young Obama...

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/01/obama-mars/

Personally, I think Danger Room is onto something with this story. It all makes perfect sense. And I appreciate Obama having our back against any extra-terrestrial menace. And I'm glad he didn't get eaten.

Unfortunately, the White House has denied this trip. But I don't believe them on this one. No, I believe this. Just because I just want to, and it fits in with my view of the cosmos.

No one can ever make me believe differently. So take that... Uh, anyone.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110211812#post5

See, this means we're all doomed.

[Iliyah]

76. Time machine

[sheshe2]

14. Oh~

Love ya freshwest!

[bullwinkle428]

15. So apparently, the implication is that anyone who questions the TPP is a secret birther.

[Hoyt]

19. Not everyone. But a lot of folks are questionable, don't you think?

[Marr]

78. Who would've guessed!

Most of the congressional Democrats, unions... they're all birthers! Almost none of the congressional Republicans, though.

God, the pretzel logic and strained attempts to paint the opposition as racist have become truly absurd.

[cali]

2. this is a good representation

of people who are grounded in personality rather than policy. The language she employs is pretty interesting too. It's language that elevates Obama and denigrates anyone disagreeing with him in a classically passive aggressive way.

Personally, I think the politics of personality/adoration are unhealthy- it's a diversion from issues and policy, turning politics into People Magazine.

[daleanime]

3. +1

[G_j]

5. That's how it felt to me,

sort of snotty, actually.

[sheshe2]

21. Try reversing this statement.

It's language that elevates Obama and denigrates anyone disagreeing with him in a classically passive aggressive way.

Snotty!

[G_j]

35. I was actually referring to the article,

"So Pres. Obama has no more reticence at calling out his detractors on both ends of the aisle. And that’s what’s called a healthy democracy. Senator Warren speaks for her constituency; Pres. Obama has to have a broader view. Don’t whine because mean Obama said mean things.

Senators Warren and Sanders should have learned from watching Pres. Obama rhetorically slice away at the GOP: If you’re going to come with foolishness, expect to be treated as such."


eom

[sheshe2]

42. Well

Senator Warren speaks for her constituency

I am her constituency, she sure as hell is NOT speaking for me now. I voted for her, met her, loved her.

[Hoyt]

6. Oh god, we wouldn't want to "elevate" Obama, would we?

[MADem]

77. He might start getting ideas about himself!

Can't have him getting too ....

prideful, can we?

Obligato for those with IIS (irony impairment syndrome)

[sheshe2]

7. He not She.

It's language that elevates Obama and denigrates anyone disagreeing with him in a classically passive aggressive way.

My oh my. That statement can easily be reversed here.

[babylonsister]

10. No shit! My first thought also.

Zipping my lip, but it is terribly interesting.

[brer cat]

12. ...

K&R sheshe.

[NuclearDem]

16. ...

[truebluegreen]

25. Yup.

[Major Hogwash]

33. What have you got against People Magazine?

This has gone too far!!

[deutsey]

62. Yes, I think opposition to TPP goes beyond just Sanders and Warren

I'd like to see a good debate between proponents of TPP and opponents like Stiglitz, Reich, and Richard Wolff on the issue.

Frankly, I'm tired of only hearing the spin from both sides and would like to hear an honest exchange between the sides.

[Marr]

73. +1, agreed.

[sheshe2]

74. Hmmm~

Let me guess. The article on the bronze statues, bet you KnRed it. Lol~

[Trajan]

82. +1,000,000 ....

[sendero]

13. A bill written by corporations..

... and favored by Republicans. I wonder if it would be a good bill for most Americans?

If you are wondering, you are a fucking idiot.

[sheshe2]

17. Seriously, you read the final draft?

Please send me a copy, I must have missed it.

PS....You just called me a fucking idiot!? You sure you don't want to rethink that and/or delete or edit?

[DisgustipatedinCA]

20. Best line I've read all day.

If you're wondering whether you should support a trade deal that all the Republicans support, you're an idiot. They're awfully quiet about that. I've seen one or two use the line "if you automatically dismiss something Republicans are for, you're just having a knee-jerk reaction". Reply: "oh yeah? Then give me a single example of a Republican initiative you've supported in the last 6 years". And that's how the conversation ends.

[sheshe2]

46. Two in one thread called me an idiot...

Look here. Actually no. No one has said this. Keep making shit up.

If you're wondering whether you should support a trade deal that all the Republicans support, you're an idiot. They're awfully quiet about that. I've seen one or two use the line "if you automatically dismiss something Republicans are for, you're just having a knee-jerk reaction". Reply: "oh yeah? Then give me a single example of a Republican initiative you've supported in the last 6 years". And that's how the conversation ends.

I need to say this again.... NOW IT IS TWO PEOPLE ON THIS THREAD THAT HAVE CALLED ME AN IDIOT! ONE HAS SURVIVED A JURY 6-1 LEAVE. OKAY, GUESS I AM, MAJORITY RULES.

Fuck the majority! I never said that.

[Cha]

49. Consider the source of the "majority" on this board now and count yourself as

honorable that you're in the minority, she.. I know I do.

I've been seeing their SOShite for 7 years.. nothing changes.. same bully shite different day.

[Major Hogwash]

55. Skinner's "grand experiment" of using juries doesn't work.

Too many racists in the jury pool.

[Cha]

58. Not only "racists", Major.. but,

bullies.. who couldn't care less how jury duty is ethically exercised.

[Iliyah]

79. Ditto

[DisgustipatedinCA]

68. Do you understand what a conditional if/then is?

if you don't meet the "if" condition, you aren't subject to "then". You'll need to decide that for yourself.

How did I do with the jury?

[sheshe2]

72. No clue I didn't alert in this thread.

[mackdaddy]

22. If the Republicans are fer ObamaTrade, Then I'm agin it!

[Broward]

23. Agreed, there's no need to mince words.

[Cha]

38. "If you are wondering, you are a fucking idiot." Jury, just quoting what this poster called the OP

I think it should be boomeranged back at 'im..

[sheshe2]

47. I just was called an idiot again!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026657951#post20

Fuck them....I am so out of here tonight.

Gotta go, this place sucks.

Night Cha.

[freshwest]

48. Here you go:

[Cha]

50. Really, fresh.. here's a still..

[Cha]

51. Like I said... more or less..

Badge. Of. Honor.

G'night, she~ And, it's not the place per se but those who have nothing but their little cheap insults and of course their

[Major Hogwash]

56. Did you get my PM?

Alert on the jury results, that way Skinner can see it.

[Hekate]

69. That's way over the line, and you know it.

[DCBob]

18. Many of the opponents of tpp were against it before they knew anything about it.

Then worked hard to find anything negative to get angry about.

[treestar]

64. Yes. A ginned up internet outrage.

It's going to cause so many terrible things! None of which they can support with any argument.

[heaven05]

24. +100

on the link.

[sheshe2]

26. heaven~

[Major Hogwash]

27. It's because President Obama is a Leo!!

And according to the sky charts, we are all aware just how brave Leos are when it starts to get warmer!!

You watch, he'll say something bold about this tomorrow when it is warmer than it was today!

[sheshe2]

31. Hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He is going to roar. It has been in the 90's here the past few days~ I am looking for a heat wave.

[freshwest]

53. What? In the 90s? So soon after all that snow? OMG! n/t

[sheshe2]

57. I am suppose to be sleeping. Lol~

We hit 90 the other day, AC on in my car, pollen count high. Sneezing and runny nose, allergies.

Crazy huh. We did a 360 in two weeks. We did 0 to 90 in a few weeks.

[Cha]

39. President Obama's "sky charts"! Good analysis.. But, I'm wondering what's up with

Senator Warren's sky charts.. that she keeps moving the goal posts!?

[Anti]

28. NAFTA

We have a historical case study to base our opposition to the TPP on. Its called NAFTA. So regardless of what Obama or Warren state, we shouldnt trust free trade agreements, no matter what. A democrat sold us out last time, and a democrat will sell us out this time. It's sad that party/Obama loyalty blinds people to what has happened historically.

[Hekate]

84. Ridiculous, but as you see you have plenty of company here.

[Geronimoe]

29. It is Obama who is shivving the Amerian Middle Class in the back

not the other way around.

[sheshe2]

32. Wrong.

[Hekate]

85. Wrong wrong wrong

[Buzz Clik]

30. An excellent analysis.

It's the way I've been seeing this. (Of course, I lack the ability to express myself so eloquently)

[Cha]

41. I too have been seeing this Buzz Clik.. but of course it's been getting lost in all the avalanche

of goal posts moving around and so many not giving a shite.

A comment from the Admin of the site linked..


"Another excellent piece LL – I had just read her W Post interview when I read you: “Sen. Warren’s main gripe is that “the public isn’t seeing the bill”. Oddly, as this interview with Greg Sargent illustrates, she keeps moving the goal posts. She, of course, can see the negotiating text in full. It then becomes: “Fast track won’t allow Congress to make changes to the deal”.”

Exactly what I picked up from the interview.

PLUM LINE: But don’t you get 60 days to review it after the deal is finalized, with the authority to revoke fast track?

WARREN: The president has committed only to letting the public see this deal after Congress votes to authorize fast track.

She completely ignores Sargent’s point, that she can see the complete text. She has been abysmal on this."

[Buzz Clik]

67. Warren's points on all of this have been very, very odd.

[colsohlibgal]

34. The Operatives At Work?

I've seen enough of the TPP to know it's not good. It would be good if I were a huge international corporation. Anyway, if it's so good for us, why not show us so we can dance in the streets? Fast Track and secrecy seems to be a hard thing to defend so I commend the Bots for trying.

There just seems to be a certain segment that will defend Obama no matter what.

Again I was all in as he ran, he sounded like Senator Warren Then he got in and right away did a 180 on his financial team - the same Reaganites that had blown up the economy. Not a good start, Then no Wall Street Execs see the inside of a jail cell? Of course not, he fights against homeowner relief as he hands billions to the people who brought up to the brink of disaster. You can't make this stuff up but apparently some can somehow defend it.

All this seems to go right over the head of the loyalists, or they rationalize it.

[sheshe2]

54. Watch it!!!! Learn. Remember.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026648982

Your post is bullshit.

Again I was all in as he ran, he sounded like Senator Warren Then he got in and right away did a 180 on his financial team - the same Reaganites that had blown up the economy. Not a good start, Then no Wall Street Execs see the inside of a jail cell? Of course not, he fights against homeowner relief as he hands billions to the people who brought up to the brink of disaster. You can't make this stuff up but apparently some can somehow defend it.

All this seems to go right over the head of the loyalists, or they rationalize it.

You are so funny

I've seen enough of the TPP to know it's not good. It would be good if I were a huge international corporation. Anyway, if it's so good for us, why not show us so we can dance in the streets? Fast Track and secrecy seems to be a hard thing to defend so I commend the Bots for trying.

You saw a draft. If you saw the final one, please forward it to me. You know so much more than the rest of the American people do. Please tell us. You know, when we do not. Tell us what is in that final draft.

[Cha]

36. Incredibly, I've lost respect for Senator Warren.. wth?! I'm with Liberal Librarian..

"Senators Warren and Sanders should have learned from watching Pres. Obama rhetorically slice away at the GOP: If you’re going to come with foolishness, expect to be treated as such."

Mahalo she.. excellent OP from LLibrarian.

Chip's comment under his post..

"Another excellent piece LL – I had just read her W Post interview when I read you: “Sen. Warren’s main gripe is that “the public isn’t seeing the bill”. Oddly, as this interview with Greg Sargent illustrates, she keeps moving the goal posts. She, of course, can see the negotiating text in full. It then becomes: “Fast track won’t allow Congress to make changes to the deal”.”

Exactly what I picked up from the interview.

PLUM LINE: But don’t you get 60 days to review it after the deal is finalized, with the authority to revoke fast track?

WARREN: The president has committed only to letting the public see this deal after Congress votes to authorize fast track.

She completely ignores Sargent’s point, that she can see the complete text. She has been abysmal on this."

[sheshe2]

40. I love you Cha!

I have been watching 2 sources to this. Have wanted to post it for days. I linked one to freshwest. She said no, you will be crucified. So I found this one tonight.

I am very upset with my Senator. I am not liking her language. It is said she is playing for her base, yet she is losing me. I am her base and she is losing me.

This!

Then she goes through some more of Pres. Obama’s “hypotheticals”—all hypotheticals that require GOP control of the White House and Congress after 2016.

Which would be a good reason to focus energy on winning 2016, rather than shivving the party’s sitting President in the back.

I can't tell you how pissed I am right now.

[Cha]

43. Oh wow.. I have been very mindful that she is your Senator and thinking it must make you

feel even more perplexed and frustrated than say someone on the other said of the Continent and Ocean who has only been observing from afar.

Then she goes through some more of Pres. Obama’s “hypotheticals”—all hypotheticals that require GOP control of the White House and Congress after 2016.

Which would be a good reason to focus energy on winning 2016, rather than shivving the party’s sitting President in the back.

What in the world is her agenda.. merely fundraising?!

If she'd just stick to the facts and not continual propaganda bait.. that'd be Great!

she

[sheshe2]

44. Facts would be great, yet...

She is not telling the truth here. Not sure why.

Me, I trust this President.



I love you Cha!

[Cha]

45. If she got a letter from you.. that would be

really different than those throwing money at her to "Stop Obama".

Look at them.. they're saying "stop Obama" stop Obama" "stop Obama"



Could you link me to the other article you talked about with freshwest? The "would get crucified" one? 'Cause telling you that ""If you are wondering, you are a fucking idiot." shows they've already lost it and have their little OUT!



Or you could PM it?

[sheshe2]

75. Will PM when I get home tonight.

Late for work gotta run.

[ucrdem]

37. Yep.

Hmmm.

[sheshe2]

87. Hey you!

Cheers to me, an Obama Op that I have not been locked out of!

[ucrdem]

52. Definition of Mau-Mau: "to intimidate (as an official) by hostile confrontation or threats"

had to look it up as I wasn't sure . . .

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mau-mau

And my favorite part:

Remember, Pres. Roosevelt was excoriated by the left for not being liberal enough. There can be no doubt that Pres. Obama feels a great disillusion from allies who cavil but never bring numbers to the table. Every deal he’s had to make with Republicans have come about because of liberals’ consistent failure to vote in midterm elections, handing control of Congress to the GOP. Then these same liberals who stayed home complain when Pres. Obama isn’t “liberal enough”. (Tell me where there was a filibuster-proof vote for the public option, or raising taxes past the Bush tax-cut expiration. I’ll wait.)

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/05/11/a-funny-thing-happened-on-the-way-to-mau-mauing-barack-obama/#more-202424

righteous

p.s. waffles

[Cha]

59. ..

Yeah, good descriptive word, LL came up with, ucr.

Mahalo

[sheshe2]

83. Thanks for the definition!

Lol~ ya think!?

to intimidate (as an official) by hostile confrontation or threats

[Hekate]

86. Great post. Ta

[ellenrr]

60. to use the term "mau mau" as a synonym for attack is RACIST

Has any liberation movement been more slandered than Kenya's Land and Freedom Army, usually referred to as the Mau Mau? This term is still used by racists as a club to attack Black people.

Right-wing columnist Ann Coulter, outraged that Halle Berry won an Oscar in 2002, complained that this Black artist had "successfully mau-maued her way to a Best Actress Award."

Former Vice President Daniel Quayle's chief of staff, William Kristol, said Carol Mosely Braun "mau-maued" the U.S. Senate when, as the only African Amer ican woman member in the Senate's history, she stopped a charter renewal for the United Daughters of the Confederacy.

Thousands of Mau Mau guerrillas wrote a heroic chapter in the book of liberation with their blood. As with the French in Algeria, it was the armed struggle in Kenya that compelled the British imperialists to grant independence to their African colonies.

http://www.workers.org/2005/world/mau-mau-0317/

[ucrdem]

61. Except that it's not being used in that context.

Coulter's comment is being used in a racist context; it is racist. This context is not and isn't.

[Cha]

63. Thank you.

[bigtree]

65. it's a canard that fast track can be revoked in the current Congress

...anyone can count the votes which will have republicans overwhelming supporting TPP and a sufficient number of Democrats in support of the trade pact to ensure any opposition won't reach the 60 vote threshold negotiated in the TPA deal to revoke fast track. It's a cynical and insincere clause which is designed to make it appear there's a way to back out of fast track. The WH (and Sen. Hatch, who came up with this phony clause) knows well the votes aren't there to make that clause realistic.

PLUM LINE: Doesn’t the current framework allow for the revocation of fast track authority?

WARREN: The whole point about fast track is to grease the skids so that 51 votes will get it through…it takes a majority to get rid of fast track.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2015/05/11/elizabeth-warren-fires-back-at-obama-heres-what-theyre-really-fighting-about/

[Cha]

66. Bottom line.. I trust President Obama over all these grandstanders moving the goal posts.. oh,

and Tom Tomorrow can fuck off, too.

[Comrade Grumpy]

70. You're gonna need a bigger bus.

To throw all those progressives under.

[Hekate]

71. KnR will be back later to read the whole thing. It looks good. nt

[Iliyah]

80. Dejavu . . .

Same tepid threads and posts regarding ACA.

[Trajan]

81. Two time Obama voter here ...

Sen Warren is being very reasonable ... The haters should back off from their vendetta, but they won't ...