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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAnyone listening to Obama speak?
Why is media not covering this on local channels?
GreatCaesarsGhost
(8,585 posts)samplegirl
(11,530 posts)I think we will see changes!
GreatCaesarsGhost
(8,585 posts)NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)Wednesdays
(17,498 posts)liberal N proud
(60,352 posts)madamesilverspurs
(15,821 posts)And media ownership is not in Democratic hands.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Cha
(298,139 posts)just some people are invested in not seeing.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)in every policy area important to the One Percent.
This list of Obama's major actions in office does not show the President trying to enact a more liberal agenda and being obstructed. It shows him working aggressively and proactively, over and over again, to install corporatists into his administration and to enact the predatory agenda of the corporate one percent.
A serial defender of corrupt bankers for the SEC; the architect of "Kill Lists" and supporter of torture, drone wars, and telecom immunity for the CIA; and a Monsanto VP who has lied and been involved in extremely disturbing claims regarding food safety for the FDA. An Attorney General who has not prosecuted a single large bank but wages war against medical marijuana users and *for* strip searches and warrantless surveillance of Americans. Tim Geithner. And now Penny Pritzker.Bailouts and settlements for corrupt banks (with personal pressure from Obama to attorneys general to approve them),
Refusal by Obama's DOJ to prosecute even huge, egregious examples of bank fraud (i.e, HSBC)
signing NDAA to allow indefinite detention,
"Kill lists" and claiming of the right to assassinate even American citizens without trial
Expansion of wars into several new countries
A renewed public advocacy for the concept of preemptive war
Drone campaigns in multiple countries with whom we are not at war
Proliferation of military drones in our skies
Federal targeting of Occupy for surveillance and militarized response to peaceful protesters
Fighting all the way to the Supreme Court for warrantless surveillance
Fighting all the way to the Supreme Court for strip searches for any arrestee
Supporting and signing Internet-censoring and privacy-violating measures like ACTA
Support for corporate groping and naked scanning of Americans seeking to travel
A new, massive spy center for warrantless access to Americans' phone calls, emails, and internet use
Support of legal immunity for telecoms/warrantless wiretapping
Support of legislation to legalize massive surveillance of Americans
Militarized police departments, through federal grants
Marijuana users and medical marijuana clinics under assault,
Skyrocketing of the budget for prisons.
Failing to veto a bipartisan vote in Congress to gut more financial regulations.
Passionate speeches and press conferences promoting austerity for Americans
Bush tax cuts extended for billionaires, them much of it made permanent
Support for the payroll tax holiday, tying SS to the general fund
Support for the vicious chained CPI cut in Social Security and benefits for the disabled
Social security, Medicare, and Medicaid offered up as bargaining chips in budget negotiations, with No mention of cutting corporate welfare or the military budget
Advocacy of multiple new free trade agreements, including The Trans-Pacific, otherwise known as "NAFTA on steroids."
Support of drilling, pipelines, and selling off portions of the Gulf of Mexico
Corporate education policy including high stakes corporate testing and closures of public schools
Entrenchment of exorbitant for-profit health insurance companies into healthcare, through mandate
Legal assault on union rights of hundreds of thousands of federal workers
New policies of targeting children and first responders in drone campaigns,
New policies of awarding medals for remote drone attacks,
Appointment of private prison executive to head the US Marshal's office
Massive escalation of federal contracts for private prisons under US Marshall's Office
Chilling Legal Memo From Obama DOJ Justifies Assassination of US Citizens
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101654954
Obama seeks longer PATRIOT Act extension than Republicans (December 2013)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x380450
When it comes to civil liberties, apparently Democrats are just as bad as Republicans.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022101960
NSA's Massive New Spy Center to Track Your Emails, Internet Activity, and Phone Calls
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101620852
Obama Quietly Signs Abusive Spy Bill He Once Vowed to Eliminate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022104861
Obama repeals Magna Carta, asserting powers our forefathers denied to Kings
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101655620
Obama's Memo on Killing Americans Twists 'Imminent Threat' Like Bush
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101654919
Obama no better than Bush when it comes to security vs. civil liberties.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022355307
Obama Admin Seeks Permission TO LIE In Response To FOI Requests - Even To The COURTS
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2185303
NDAA on trial: Obama Administration fights ban on indefinite detention of Americans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101748688
Obama administration complicit with private prison industry: President Obama's IncarcerNation
http://www.nationofchange.org/president-obama-s-incarcernation-1335274655
Obama, Democrats Push to Make Bush Spying Laws Permanent
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022084702
NDAA, signed by Obama, is a direct attack against legitimate protest and dissent
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022064803
NSA Whistleblower: All Americans under constant surveillance, all info. stored, no matter the post
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002193487; http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021935289
Bipartisan Congress Disgracefully Approves the FISA Warrantless Spying Bill for Five More Years
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022087323
While Public & Media Focused on 2nd Amendment, 5th Amendment Quietly Dismantled
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022390581
How the Obama administration justifies extrajudicial killing of Americans,
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022318187
Judge Says Under Law Executive Branch Can Commit Acts That Sure Do Seem Unconstitutional
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022122464
Obama Justice Dept. says wiretap lawsuit should not proceed
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014337039
NDAA Lawsuit- Hedges v. Obama, The Last Thin Line of Defense
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022357078
Federal authorities step up efforts to license surveillance drones for law enforcement
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022383596
Big Banks and FBI worked together vs Occupy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022095056]
FBI Investigated 'Occupy' As Possible 'Domestic Terrorism' Threat, Internal Documents Show
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022061578
FBI Documents Reveal Secret Nationwide Occupy Monitoring (Updated the OP)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022057064
Public Buses Across Country Quietly Adding Microphones to Record Passenger Conversations
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021965291
Street artist behind satirical NYPD 'Drone' posters arrested
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021920967
The Obama DOJ urged the Supreme Court's endorsement of strip searches.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002521527
Obama Administration Fights to Allow Warrantless GPS Tracking
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1074474
Anonymous to FBI: hey, dudes, maybe you could take a break from...investigating activists....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022145621
Half a billion dollars for drones to spy on Americans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021876414
From Bradley Manning to Aaron Swartz -- The Government's Inhumane Persecution of Brave Truth Tellers
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022276941
The sight of Army helicopters and the sound of gunfire...on Houston's south side
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022276742
Kiriakou and Stuxnet: the danger of the still-escalating Obama whistleblower war
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022275570
Can the DEA Hide a Surveillance Camera on Your Property?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022237059
Social Media and the Stasi
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021888029
Homeland Security Wants to More Than Double Its Predator Drone Fleet Inside the US, Despite Safety/Privacy Invasions
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014312823
CIA Behind Bizarre Censorship Incident At Alleged 9/11 Plotters Gitmo Trial
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022280285
I Am Wearing My Conviction As A Badge Of Honor.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022275128
Meet the Contractors Turning America's Police Into a Paramilitary Force
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12525281
How Secrecy Corrodes Democracy
http://election.democraticunderground.com/101655009
Obama Quietly Issues Ruling Saying It's Legal For The FBI To Break The Law
http://election.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7545687
US Pulls Plug on Iran Cable News (Press TV)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014394770
DHS Watchdog OKs 'Suspicionless' Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022339091
PennsylvaniaMatt
(966 posts)Right to the point, in as few words as possible!
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)every speech sounds the same.
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samplegirl
(11,530 posts)and he said he is going to work with or without congress!
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Same speech, different day.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)Last edited Wed Jul 24, 2013, 03:26 PM - Edit history (1)
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)And have you missed the part where Republicans just don't want the Admin to work? They can do that by not appointing anybody.
I get Republican obstructionism, I just don't get your point.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)propensity to appoint Bush-carryovers and other Republicans to high-level positions in his Administration while attributing a phrase you-have-to-keep-your-enemies-closer to Lincoln. But Lincoln did not appoint any confederates to his Administration.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Frankly over the years he has SAID alot of things but his actions have shown the people he really works for are the big corporations.
If he actually does something, I will stand up and applaud.
railsback
(1,881 posts)Can't move forward without Congress, and the Left is making sure Obama doesn't even have the Senate in 2014 and then they'll blame Obama.
there is too many chiefs and not enough indians in our government, we need a boss and not multiple bosses.
msongs
(67,509 posts)one....
railsback
(1,881 posts)Different times, different mentalities, different structures. Evolution keeps happening, wether people like it or not.
...loney,
railsback
(1,881 posts)loney if you're guilty.
AllINeedIsCoffee
(772 posts)railsback
(1,881 posts)Just a bunch of griping about how Obama sucks, and then the GOP jumping all over that, saying even Democrats think Obama sucks, so vote Republican.
AllINeedIsCoffee
(772 posts)truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)The "left" aren't the ones who stayed home in 2010. The "left" aren't the ones making lousy deals on the budget and safety nets and taxes. The "left" won't be responsible for losing the Senate in 2014, IF we do, and the best way for us to retain control, and make gains in the House, is to actually act like Democrats, instead of Republican wannabes.
railsback
(1,881 posts)Will be here Nov. 5, 2014, reading all the griping about how it was Obama's fault.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)AllINeedIsCoffee
(772 posts)But others will wait on their favorite obscure bloggers to summarize the speech and tell them why they should be pissed.
You know, stubborn people that are part of the problem.
samplegirl
(11,530 posts)people who can see no accomplishments.
DFab420
(2,466 posts)It's a hell of a speech. President Obama speaking directly to the American people about the trials and tribulations we all face, and the disgust he has with republicans in the house and senate for refusing to do ANYTHING to help.
But you know.."herp derp speechs are just talk blargh "
AllINeedIsCoffee
(772 posts)I wouldn't worry too much about them.
They only have their apathy and inaction to blame for the situation that has made them so bitter.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)He has scolded the repukes before. He has spoken directly to the American people.
What is so different about this speech than the others? We've heard it all before.
DFab420
(2,466 posts)for a better middle class ever help anything...
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)It's just that we heard it all before.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)It's obvious that the Republicans will just obstruct, obstruct, and obstruct some more.
So you say, Obama should therefore take the case to the American people, utilizing the bully pulpit.
O.K., so then he does that. He calls Republicans out directly on their bullshit.
And still, it's not enough for you.
So, pray tell: what should he be doing, since as you rightly put, he can't do much without congressional action?
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I didn't say he should take his case to the American people. I said he already has. So many times. It's a speech we heard before.
Not really sure what he can do. That's part of the problem of our political system.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)I'm not sure I follow.
Why is everyone blaming him for the unemployment rate, lack of jobs, etc. when the Republicans obstructed every single JOBS bills put on the table?
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)because I realize that Congress is part of the problem.
I only said that we heard the speech before.
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tridim
(45,358 posts)Obama is doing his job. Very well I might add.
babylonsister
(171,112 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)babylonsister
(171,112 posts)what you look like, and don't care. Did you get some of your material from this?
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/mitch-mcconnell-obama-economic-speech-94671.html
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I believe what I believe. You can too.
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?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>DFab420
(2,466 posts)You must be the life of parties with a cutting wit like yours....
Well, I thought this was funny!
Cha
(298,139 posts)in sand.. yelling "I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALALALALALALA!!111"
frylock
(34,825 posts)that this bipartisan bullshit isn't working? many of us have been saying that for quite some time.
malaise
(269,352 posts)Pretty good
GlashFordan
(216 posts)The importance of each speech is diminished. I liked the presidents that just spoke in public every few weeks or so like Clinton.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)How many major speeches has be done in the last 6 months? You sound not just dumb but fox news dumb when you say stuff like this.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)Obama has a pattern where he says good things and gives nice speeches, and then there is no follow up whatsoever. It's quite a disconnect, to the point of wondering if he is just going through the motions when giving these speeches. I don't blame people for tuning out at this point.
DFab420
(2,466 posts)http://studentloanhelp.org/blog/obama-student-loan-forgiveness/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act
I dunno.. Seems like he's been doing a hell of a lot..
quinnox
(20,600 posts)throughout his presidency. He gives great speeches and then....nothing.
AllINeedIsCoffee
(772 posts)DFab420
(2,466 posts)Wednesdays
(17,498 posts)Jesus facepalmed.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)hasn't done anything.
Is it because Congress has obstructed everything he has tried to do?
What is it?
And while you're at it, here's only 50 of his top accomplishments:
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/march_april_2012/features/obamas_top_50_accomplishments035755.php
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)Here are a few key elements to the Pay As You Earn program:
Lower Payments: Eligible borrowers can have their monthly student loan payments capped at 10% of their discretionary income. To get an idea of what a difference this can make, a borrower with $40,000 in student loan debt at 6.8% APR who makes $50,000 a year would pay about $460 monthly on a standard repayment plan. That same borrower would pay approximately $277 on Pay As You Earn. Compared to other federal repayment plans, Pay As You Earn offers borrowers one of the lowest possible payments.
Student Loan Forgiveness: If a borrower makes consecutive, on-time payments for 20 years, any remaining balance will be forgiven. However, borrowers may need to pay taxes on the forgiven balance.
Not everyone will qualify: What does it take to qualify? Only new borrowers with Federal Direct Loans will qualify. If you took out a federal loan prior to Oct 1, 2007, you are not considered a new borrower. Also, you must have received a Direct loan after Oct 1, 2011. If youre not sure when you took out your loans, or if your loans are Direct, you can find out by visiting the National Student Loan Data System (NSLDS). Also, if your student loan defaults, you wont qualify for Pay As You Earn, so if youre struggling with your payments you should reach out to your loan servicer right away.
Total Interest: Since borrowers are making lower payments, the loan will typically take longer to pay off. As a result, borrowers will end up paying more interest on Pay As You Earn than on a standard repayment plan.
jesus christ, this is being touted as visionary or something?
polichick
(37,152 posts)politicat
(9,808 posts)Don't know where you are, but our local daytime seems 95% automated and geared towards high volume, low profit ad buys. I don't think they'd cut an hour of programming (and therefore twenty commercials) if not required.
It was a good speech, and I think I heard actual momentum.
I need to read the transcript to confirm* but I think he put obstruction on notice. Which yes, needed to happen several years ago, but urgent is often the enemy of important.
* I have been uninstalling a ceiling fan, reinstalling a ceiling light and cleaning the fan to move to another room, so the speech didn't have my full attention and I wasn't taking notes.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Once I realized that Governing Obama was a very different person from Campaigning Obama everything just started to sound like "wa wa wa wa wa" (think adults in charlie brown specials)
quinnox
(20,600 posts)at this point.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)I often will read the transcript.
My bottom line, though, is not what he says in speeches. His speeches are irrelevant. It's what he does. It's the walk, not the talk, that has my attention.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)... "The Pep Talk" & it's over-trodden buzzwords all meld into the same mush after this long.
SHOW me, Sir. Stop talking at me and SHOW ME that you give a shit about the "middle class" and the working/nonworking poor.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Junkdrawer
(27,993 posts)"I come from a state that raises corn and cotton and cockleburs and Democrats, and frothy eloquence neither convinces nor satisfies me. I am from Missouri. You have got to show me."
-- Willard Duncan Vandiver
forestpath
(3,102 posts)The Link
(757 posts)I'm not interested in listening to any more pretty bullshit.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)I didn't know he was. Watching the last episode of The Fall and waiting for the glass repair technician to show up.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Bully Pulpit, but he should do so, while also not making any speeches.
babylonsister
(171,112 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)the deeds are lacking (& to some extent because the message has been inconsistent & unfocused)
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)How about taking an economy that was losing 700,000+ jobs a month and turning it into an economy that has been creating more that 100,000 jobs a month?
Are those not deeds that help the middle class?
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)7.6 is still high for the postwar era & the UE figure elides:
1. a huge percentage of folks who are for various reasons outside the population that the UE figures are calculated on;
2. declining wages in this 'recovery' after 30 years of flat wages, which demonstrate that the labor market isn't tightening at all, in realit (see 1);
3. increased levels of part-time & casual work
4. decline in benefited work
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)dispute that its calculated today the same exact way as it always has been. So complaining about how its calculated is a weak approach for disputing the improvement.
Whether you like it or not, President Obama, through ACTIONS, stopped and reversed the trend in which UE was INCREASING at an extremely dangerous rate.
btw ... your math isn't very good. We hit the high of UE in OCT of 2009 (almost a year into Obama's first term), and we hit 7.6% around March of this year. Obama hasn't even been President for 5 years. Which means the drop from 10.2% to 7.6% took about 3.5 years or so, not 5 years as you claim. That's actually pretty fast given the fact that it had risen more than about 4% in a year and a half. Naturally you'd miss that.
This is an actual DEED. An ACCOMPLISHMENT. It helps the middle class.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)i was noting that the theoretically reduced UE rate hides a low & still declining laborforce participation rate, a great deal of which is unemployment by another name, but not included in the UE stats.
i meant from the beginning of obama's term, obviously, and i'm not sure why you'd calculate from the high point of unemployment rather than the beginning of his term when touting obama's accomplishments.
by the same measure, reagan was a miracle worker because UE didn't hit a high until late 82 & it only took him a year to get it down to low 7%s.
and i didn't do any 'math' in my post.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)What you are saying is that although we've always used UE3 as a primary indicator of the health of the economy, we should now reinterpret it.
And I start from the decline because the first part of 2009 was required to STOP THE CRASH. Which by the way, is its own accomplishment ... another you ignore.
I'm curious as to why you think the somewhat quicker recovery for Reagan makes the recovery under Obama any less of an achievement. It does not. It more than likely reflects that fact that Democrats under reagan were interested in helping improve the economy, while the GOP under Obama is not.
But that is neither here nor there.
There has been a significant recovery under Obama, no matter how much you'd wish otherwise.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)participation rates in this conversation. labor force participation is still declining & is getting close to the level it was before women entered the workforce in large numbers back in the 70s.
the economy is not improving, & cheerleading won't make it so.
treestar
(82,383 posts)You have as is proverbially said, nailed it!
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)They're like small children you pat on the head while saying "good boy"...but you really don't pay them any attention.
They are to be ignored.
olddots
(10,237 posts)I wish he could stop backing down to the parasites and get real .
forestpath
(3,102 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)properly utilizing the bully pulpit, even though the guy is out there nearly every day splitting his spleen. No coverage means that it didn't happen, though.
Junkdrawer
(27,993 posts)Use it as a spin session to defend DINO policies and maybe his wife and kids will be regulars.
Lincoln was right: people are smarter than most politicians think. Just because we voted to keep Romney out of office doesn't mean we swallowed the speeches hook, line, and sinker.
http://election.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2852677
Cha
(298,139 posts)speeches are by how much the gop and every other Obama hater comes out to whine about it.
This one at Knox College in Galesburg, Ill.. was Excellent!
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Will make it into a PDF in a sec in the IPAD.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)the young and the restless, city hall edition.
The local scandal, which is also a national scandal (tempest in teapots usually do not go international, but usually do not involve former congress critters), is firmly on phase two, he said, they said phase.
So I will have to catch to that speech in print later.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)xmas74
(29,685 posts)but I heard his second today. He came to my town and spoke at the local university. I tried to get a ticket but was unable-they ran out. A few locals later bragged about getting tickets and tearing them up so "no one was there to support him". Whatever.
I heard the crowd was big and that his speech was good. He addressed an innovative program that the college offers along with other things.