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Anyone else notice that Trump actually had odd 3-way conversation at G20 dinner?

There has been quite a bit of reporting about Trump having a long meeting with Putin at the G20 dinner, deservedly so given Trump's ties to Russia and that he had to go out of his way to do this, first hand signalling down the length of the table to Putin and then later having that 2nd meeting with him.

What I haven't seen reported on and what I noticed in one video of the dinner is that right before Trump did his hand signals to Putin, he had engaged in what looks to be an engaged discussion with the Saudi leader. He then does an exaggeratedly casual stroll to his seat and immediately launches into his hand signals to Putin.

Most of the videos covering this don't show the Trump Saudi conversation. Maybe I'm just feeling overly paranoid these days, but this has been bugging me ever since G20, especially since Trump seemed to very specifically focus on these two encounters at the dinner.


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Trump follows up asking about pardons by unexpected Office Govt Ethics appointment

Schaub resigned early, with an effective date of July 19th and Finlayson was expected to be appointed as acting director.

Instead the White House promoted David Apol to the interim position.

Schaub had some pointed words to say about that.

Hmmm, Trump is going to need a bigger dump truck for the Friday news dump this week.


http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/343121-white-house-chooses-interim-head-of-ethics-agency

Shelley Finlayson — Shaub’s chief of staff — briefly served as acting director of the OGE after Shaub's departure. The agency’s rules say the chief of staff would take over as acting director unless the White House appoints someone else.

OGE changed the rules regarding the line of succession in 2015. Prior to that, the general counsel would have automatically taken the vacant director spot.

On Friday, Shaub blasted the pick, accusing the White House of "playing politics."

“This sort of political interference creates the appearance that the White House may be hoping to engineer looser oversight by reaching down and leapfrogging a career employee over his own supervisor temporarily," he said in a statement. "This way, the White House gets to install its preferred candidate without having a Senate confirmation hearing in which it would have to face tough questions about how the nominee would address the administration’s ethics problems.”

Seattle mayoral candidate debate tonight, Mon July 17th on King 5

http://www.king5.com/news/politics/seattle-mayoral-debate/456915171


In a Decision 2017 Special co-presented by KING 5 News and KUOW Public Radio, the six leading candidates in the race for Seattle mayor face off Monday night for their only televised primary election debate.

KING 5's Natalie Brand and KUOW's Ross Reynolds will co-moderate the debate held at Impact Hub Seattle. Twenty-one people are running to succeed Ed Murray, who dropped out of the race, but we'll hear from the current leading candidates:

Jenny Durkan
Jessyn Farrell
Bob Hasegawa
Michael McGinn
Cary Moon
Nikkita Oliver

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The debate will air live on KING 5, KONG and KUOW - and streamed live on king5.com, KING 5 Facebook and YouTube on Monday July 17 from 6:30 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. The broadcast will be followed by an online Debate Extra: an informal live Q&A with the candidates streamed on king5.com and Facebook.

Add it up. Trump and Putin skip Merkel's meetings about climate change, but meet together

for longer than planned, along with Tillerson: Mr Drill for More Oil, preferably in partnership with Russia.

Even Melania managed to miss the spouse's climate change info tour, being 'kept from going' by protests.

Then, Putin seems to speak for United States on climate policy.

And where is Trump when he's not enthusiastically meeting with Putin? He's alternately spacing out during presentations he did attend or pouting by himself at the table.

Some snippets from a few reports:
http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2017/07/melania-trump-donald-trump-vladimir-putin-g20-meeting
Donald Trump had his highly anticipated meeting with Vladimir Putin at the G20 summit in Hamburg, Germany, on Friday, talking to the Russian leader for two hours and 16 minutes, well over their appointed half-hour. Trump pressed Putin on the topic of Russian interference in the U.S. presidential election, and the two also discussed North Korea, according to Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who was in the room during the meeting, along with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. The two leaders were apparently so engrossed in conversation that First Lady Melania Trump attempted to get them to wrap up the conversation but was unsuccessful.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/g20-hamburg-trudeau-1.4194345
Merkel scheduled a tour of the German climate change centre in Hamburg for G20 spouses. The centre uses supercomputers to model climate change impacts around the world and First Lady Melania Trump was to have been part of it.
However Melania was unable to leave the residence where she was staying Friday thanks to violent protests which have left hundreds injured and required the Germans to call in even more than the 20,000 police initially on hand to try and keep the peace.

Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin weren't part of the Friday afternoon discussion on climate change.
Their much-anticipated first official bilateral meeting since Trump took office was planned at the same time, leaving German officials frustrated and angry.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/08/europe/g20-merkel-trump-communique/index.html
Officials had been at an impasse over an increasingly isolationist United States and Trump's climate change and trade policies for most of the summit, and Merkel made it clear the United States had made talks difficult.
"Unfortunately -- and I deplore this -- the United States of America left the climate agreement, or rather announced their intention of doing this," Merkel said as she closed the summit and presented a G20 declaration.
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After the summit, Russian President Vladimir Putin called climate change a "major issue" and said Merkel had reached a "good compromise."
"Although the US will withdraw, they are nevertheless still prepared to carry on now (with) discussions on this subject. It seems to me this is a very positive point and can be chalked up to the successes of Angela Merkel," Putin said.

The real reason Melania skipped the tour - it included a climate research center visit

http://www.dw.com/en/g20-underway-in-hamburg-amid-violent-protests-live-updates/a-39589687

14:48 As the world leaders continue their closed-door discussions; their spouses are experiencing some of Hamburg's highlights, albeit with some amendments because of the ongoing protests and tense security situation in the city. The program, hosted by German Chancellor Angela Merkel's husband Joachim Sauer, included a boat trip around Hamburg's harbor and a visit to a climate research center. US First Lady Melania Trump had to skip the boat trip because protests prevented her from leaving her guesthouse. Instead of visiting the research center, the spouses will attend a presentation by climate scientists at a hotel. No word yet on whether Melania Trump will be able to attend that presentation, but she expressed support for those injured in protests via Twitter.



Yes, the media is reporting that she skipped the tour because of the protestors.

And yes, G20 protests can be quite strong and are likely even more intense given Trump's terrible policies.

Yet, Trump made it to his meetings and other spouses made it to the tour.

I would bet that she generally did not want to go on the tour with the other spouses and specifically wanted to avoid what is certainly overwhelming scientific evidence of climate change at that research center.

Question - is that aspect of the tour even being included in most reporting about this?

Update: while I was typing this up, I noticed that info was added about the visit to the climate research center was changed to a climate presentation at a hotel out of security concerns.

Hmm, what are the odds she'll 'be able' to attend that?

As Trump and his cronies like Pruitt work to privatize the USA, I say "This Land is Your Land, This

Land is My Land."

And the more they try to funnel ownership from all the people here to the wealthy few, the stronger I say, especially on this day, this 4th of July, that this land is made for you and me, in all of its beauty, in all its complexity, in all of it sustaining generations of healthy diversity.

They can try to seize it from the people, they can try to strip away its natural wealth and hoard it for themselves, they can try to ruin our health and kill our spirit.

In the end, they will not succeed.

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Bernstein: "the nexus of fake news in America is the Trump White House."

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Tonight we have Megyn Kelley on Alex Jones and Canada has Naomi Klein on Trump

Just saw an ad that Naomi Klein will be on The National tonight. I'm glad to be able to watch it from Seattle.

Quite the contrast, eh?

Note that as Trump tweets about the need for security his budget is cutting proven measures

like the earthquake early warning system.


http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/336252-trump-after-london-attack-we-must-stop-being-politically-correct
President Trump warned after a deadly attack in London that terrorism will “only get worse” if officials don’t “get down to the business of security for our own people” and end political correctness.

“We must stop being politically correct and get down to the business of security for our people. If we don't get smart it will only get worse,” he tweeted early Sunday.

We must stop being politically correct and get down to the business of security for our people. If we don't get smart it will only get worse

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 4, 2017



Yet, at this same moment his budget proposes ending funding for the earthquake warning system. Yes, that is $0 for a proven warning system that would save lives during inevitable natural disasters.

There is no question that earthquakes will occur in the future and an early warning system can provide just enough of an alert for surgeons to put down scalpels, water systems to temporarily halt flow to prevent flooding, elevators to stop so people could exit rather than being trapped in them, trains and subways to stop to avoid derailing at speed, oil and gas to halt pipeline flow to avert spills and fires, etc.

Whenever he talks about needing more security, contrast that with him pulling funding for tested systems that would provide security for large numbers of the population during events that are certain to occur.



http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-93467381/
Yet the rapid progress could all unravel if President Trump’s budget is approved. The Department of the Interior is proposing no funding for the system this year and “would end USGS efforts to implement the ShakeAlert earthquake early warning system, suspending internal efforts and eliminating external funding to partners” such as Caltech, UC Berkeley, the University of Oregon and the University of Washington.

Seismologist Lucy Jones, who formerly worked for the USGS, said she imagines that such a decision would cripple the ShakeAlert program.

Ending federal involvement in the system would prompt scientists to leave the project, Jones said. The early warning program needs dozens of researchers continually improving the software, monitoring and operating the system, and installing and repairing seismic sensors, she said.

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Mexico lost 10,000 people in 1985. Japan lost 5,000 people in 1995. Turkey lost 17,000 people in 1999. And China lost 80,000 people in 2008.
“Each of those then triggered the development of an early warning system in those countries,” Jones said. “It’ll be a shame if we only get it because we kill a lot of people.”

Trump's road trip: even worse than you think

From including Kushner and excluding National Security Advisor in meeting with Netanyahu to not reading even abbreviated bullet point notes then not listening to the translations of world leaders' speeches, Trump shows that in every moment he will pick the worst path to follow.



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/27/donald-trump-foreign-trip-europe

The latest in the string of daily developments was a report on Friday night that Jared Kushner asked the Russians to set up a secret channel of communication with the Trump transition team, bypassing US diplomatic and intelligence channels. It was a stunning revelation, given that Kushner is not just the president’s son-in-law but his closest foreign policy adviser. When Trump met Israeli prime minster Benjamin Netanyahu, for example, Kushner was in the room but national security adviser HR McMaster was left outside.

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In Europe, Trump had to play a different role: a senior member of a group seeking to act in concert and by consensus. But Trump does not do collegial, a fact that was grasped before in Europe but is now viscerally understood after the president shoved the Montenegrin prime minister out of the way to get front and centre of a Nato leaders’ photo-op. It was demonstrated again at the G7, when he did not even bother to put on headphones to hear the speeches of his fellow world leaders, including his Italian host.

These are the ways of a man without curiosity. He does not read books, and listens fitfully and reluctantly to others. He is reportedly fed up with McMaster because he goes on for too long about world affairs. The briefing papers McMaster’s team drew up before this trip had to be condensed to a few bullet points on a single page for each issue, and even then Trump grew bored of reviewing them before departure, and groused about how long the whole excursion would take.

Trump lack of grasp of the realities of geopolitical alliances and global trade is a reminder that he came to office at the age of 70, having spent his entire adult life in a single business, real estate – a business he inherited, and which was built on bluster, gaming the legal system and forming partnerships of convenience with equally ruthless operators.


Edited to add:
Trump taking a golf cart instead of walking with fellow G7 is making headlines, but so far I haven't seen this connected as yet another example of him separating himself from other G7 leaders, yet again demonstrating his distancing of himself and the U.S. from our traditional allies.
I did notice an important point made in lower paragraphs in an article headlined by his taking the golf cart and think it's worth highlighting as another action that fits with the main points here.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/335424-trump-rode-golf-cart-while-g7-leaders-walked-through-siciliy

Trump’s brief separation from the foreign leaders ahead of the photo op comes shortly after he refused to take part in a pledge supporting the Paris climate deal. The U.S. was the only country represented at the summit that did not sign the deal on Saturday.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said there was a “very intense meeting” where all six other nations “made it clear that we want the U.S. to stick to its commitments.”

Edit to add:

Spicer is now saying that Trump wore a single earpiece rather than headphones, so that part is not accurate. See also post#32 from oberliner.

However, the rest stands and now the New York Times has a good article about Trump being "at odds with allies" that further illustrates the divide he is creating.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/27/world/europe/trump-paris-climate-accords-g7.html?_r=1

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