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Hey, we should suggest a bill to Congress to end the Shutdown!

A bill without the 5.7 billion dollars

OR

A bill with the 5.7 billion dollars and...
No federal money for the entire state of Kentucky (Exceptions apply)
Have a Planned Parenthood Day and give them lots of funding
Money for the Southern Poverty Law Center
No money for abstinence only education or pregnancy crisis centers

Add your ideas too, let's make this list as long as possible, let's show that we're willing to compromise.

New Rules for Democrats and people on the Left that should not be New Rules at all

Going forward, I think knowing these things will make life a lot easier and may win us even more in 2020...

ACCEPT that anything you or anyone else does or says can be turned into an attack or a Republican conspiracy theory - Right wingers saw the word 'Pizza' in an email and turned it into a bizarro psychotic Satanic conspiracy theory. They recently took dancing on a rooftop and tried to turn it into an attack. There is nothing, NOTHING, you can do or say that they will not be able to attack you over. Don't filter yourself or limit yourself... you're still gonna be a Communist Satanist Secret Muslim Terrorist Lover paid by George Soros who leads an Antifa cell.

ACKNOWLEDGE that today's right wing has no concept of a political center - Hey, what's your position on immigration? It's "open borders"! What do you think we should do about healthcare? It's "Socialism"! We not only let Republicans frame the debate, we also modify ourselves in response to that framing, it's time to acknowledge that and respond. Your positions are far left just by virtue of not agreeing with Republicans, so that leads to...

DON'T BE AFRAID of "socialism", especially when Republicans call something "socialism" - Decades ago, "socialism" was "I like the USSR!". Years ago, "socialism" was "I want everyone to have healthcare". Today, "socialism" is "I'm upset about school shootings and want to do something about them!". And in the near future, I'm sure "socialism" will be "Hey, maybe we shouldn't throw virgins into volcanoes to appease the Dow and the job creators!"

REACH OUT to those who want a bright future, not to turn America into some simulacrum of a past that only exists in their minds - Recognize the difference between deprivation and those who are feeling bad because of relative deprivation. Don't reach out to people with "trumpgrets" who ONLY have trumpgrets because the welfare cuts came for them too. Don't hug a Trump supporter without hugging a refugee, a Muslim, a GLBTQ person, etc.

REMEMBER those who paid the ultimate price - This is not a historical thing. Even today, we've got people who fell victim to the right, like Heather Heyer. Follow Heather.

VOTE, vote more, vote often - Every election matters even if the Electoral Clown College taints at least a couple, but you are not sending a message by not voting, but also do MORE.

What does "politically correct environmental monitoring" mean?

From 2016:

Donald Trump is poised to eliminate all climate change research conducted by Nasa as part of a crackdown on “politicized science”, his senior adviser on issues relating to the space agency has said.

Nasa’s Earth science division is set to be stripped of funding in favor of exploration of deep space, with the president-elect having set a goal during the campaign to explore the entire solar system by the end of the century.

This would mean the elimination of Nasa’s world-renowned research into temperature, ice, clouds and other climate phenomena. Nasa’s network of satellites provide a wealth of information on climate change, with the Earth science division’s budget set to grow to $2bn next year. By comparison, space exploration has been scaled back somewhat, with a proposed budget of $2.8bn in 2017.

Bob Walker, a senior Trump campaign adviser, said there was no need for Nasa to do what he has previously described as “politically correct environmental monitoring”.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/nov/22/nasa-earth-donald-trump-eliminate-climate-change-research


What a weird phrase, but you know what I think? I think it's like a Pavlovian response, a "good American" according to Fox News, Franklin Graham, the Republican Party, etc. is supposed to hate the two words "politically correct" and whatever they might be associated with.

Ring a bell, the dog salivates.
Say "politically correct", the "good American" boos and hisses.

Because there's nothing "politically correct" about caring about the environment, that's just goofy. It's a stupid thing to say. There's nothing else about that. Such a stupid thing to say.

Putin loves Trumpian/Republican Nationalism because it's ultimately *Impotent Nationalism*

Nationalism is normally about expanding one's borders and we have some opportunities to do just that...
Make Puerto Rico or Guam states?
NO! CAN'T HAVE THAT!
They might vote Democratic.

Nationalism is normally about creating a common identity on one's national identity and yet to the Trumpian nationalist, it's sort of solipsist...
I am the American, the 'other' isn't.
Instead of seeing the immigrant American or the Muslim American embrace American customs, engage in American ideas and systems as something good, it's terrifying.

Case in point: Ilhan Omar. She should be an inspiration to all Americans and I am sure to the vast majority of Americans, she is just that. Once a refugee who is a Muslim American and ran on the support of groups like GLBTQ Americans to become a United States Representative... to me, that is pure 100% American spirit right there, but to Trumpian nationalists like John Guandolo and E.W. Jackson, it's something to fear, it's the conspiracy, the secret jihad.

Nationalism, even with it's worst varieties and it's something I don't endorse generally seems to promote some sort of shared political good for everyone of that nation... with Trumpian/Republican Nationalism, the only shared political good we get are the ideas that if you have enough money, you can be above the law... that if you don't like something, just call it fake news... greed is good... sell out the government to the highest bidder. We don't all get the goods if we don't have the money, but we do get the illusion of the goods.

It's Impotent Nationalism. We've got nationalists who instead of expanding our borders are obsessed with keeping them the way they are. These same nationalists see Americans who don't look, worship, love, or vote the same as them not as kin, but as the enemy. These same nationalists have created a system where all people of the nation are supposed to get the political goods, but some will get it first and a lot more than others.

I don't think it's a sustainable nationalism, but there's one more thing about these impotent nationalists and we all know what it is... they will go down with their Impotent Nationalism a thousand times before they agree with some liberal, some 'globalist' like me.

Next time you see a Republican spout "crisis actor" conspiracy theories on social media, report them

Between "crisis actors" and this QAnon tweet that says Trump is arresting his deep state enemies, but Hollywood is replacing them with clever imposters, it's too much, and it's dangerous.

It's the Capgras delusion, where the person suffering from this believes people around them have been replaced by imposters... You see it with brain lesions (Charles Whitman, a spree shooter, had one), see it with dementia, with schizophrenia... things that aren't good. Not only is it a sign of both declining physical and mental health, it's hard to treat, mainly because the person with these sees everyone else as imposters with dark motives.

This isn't simple enabling, like calling the workplace for a person who has a drinking problem and telling them they can't come into work because they feel sick.

This is next-level enabling, it's actively enabling the problem:

It's like telling a teenage girl with anorexia that she is fat and ugly or it's like telling a person who suffers from auditory hallucinations the voices he hears telling him to hurt himself are onto something.

But yet we see it on social media, it being broadcast that people aren't real, they are actors and imposters.

I think that maybe tweets that push "crisis actors" and "Deep State imposter" conspiracy theories should be reported by anyone who sees it, this isn't politics, this is mental health.

I don't know, maybe we should work to make it a policy that this kind of dangerous enabling shouldn't even be allowed on social media, it's no different than hate speech IMHO.

Cults and cult-like movements will often coin new words as well as recycle existing words, phrases

This has a couple of functions...

These groups often have narrow ideologies that are quite extreme, so with these words and phrases, they can refit the world and explain how it works in a new sense

They can also use these words and phrases to communicate with other insiders as well as identify and denigrate the outsider, the 'other'.

The Hutaree had their bizarre rank system - Radok, Boramander, Zulif, Arkon, and Lukore

Scientology has "fair game", "suppressive persons", "clear", "dead agent", and more

White supremacy has "1488", "14 words", "RaHoWa", and others

Incels identify their 'enemies' (AKA anyone with a sexuality they don't share) as "Chads" or "Beckys"

And then you see today's right wing... throwing out things like "political correctness", "virtue signaling", and "cultural marxism", making sure to use "liberal" as an insulting adjective, and describing anything they don't like as "socialist"

Let's remember the Russian hacks didn't actually get any real dirt, so they had to MAKE dirt up

The 'worst' thing of the hacked emails was John Podesta in a Homer Simpson-esque voice saying "Mmm... Pizza" and they pretty much went into this mode:

Pizza
Letter P
P - Pedophilia
Pedophilia Scandal... involving Satanists... Secret Tunnels... George Soros... Hillary Clinton...

Yes, really.

Now we know that Russian botnets helped spread Pizzagate around and we also know Michael Flynn, Jerome Corsi, and others helped spread this propaganda.

This was a psy ops campaign against the United States by a foreign country and the Trump campaign people were active accomplices to that.

Period.

Pluralistic Ignorance - The thing the Far Right vitally needs to enact it's agenda

In social psychology, pluralistic ignorance is a situation in which a majority of group members privately reject a norm, but incorrectly assume that most others accept it, and therefore go along with it. This is also described as "no one believes, but everyone thinks that everyone believes". In short, pluralistic ignorance is a bias about a social group, held by the members of that social group.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluralistic_ignorance

Whatever you call them... the alt-right, the far right, white nationalists, white supremacists, the neo Nazis, Republican conspiracy theorists, confederate flag wavers, etc.; they don't have the numbers. They really don't. That's not to say this radical right is just a couple guys who can be counted on one hand, but they don't have the manpower to directly influence policy through sheer numbers alone.

The thing they have going for them is a perverted hope that nobody will resist them.

The problem is sometimes we give it to them.

"They're mouthing off conspiracy theories about George Soros working with the martian sex colonies to stage school shootings again... better to just not make a scene."
"But they have a permit... I shouldn't resist them."
"This tweet seems pretty Islamophobic, but should I actually report it? Hmmm..."

Don't give them any platform and don't let them think America agrees with them.

More than just division, the 6 other goals of the Putinist regime

They want to:

Encourage apathy - When politics is becoming led by conspiracy theorists of Pizzagate and QAnon and by people who have fundamentalist and dogmatic beliefs that will not change their minds no matter what evidence is presented as well as openly and literally encouraging apathy with things like #walkaway, it will turn a lot of people off of politics completely.
Why? Think about it, if we're not caring about politics here, then of course we're not going to care about human rights or corruption inside Russia.

Encourage acceptance of human rights abuses from the Russian government against the Russian people - On the note of conspiracy theories being promoted, that's another reason. We're talking about a country with their intelligence agency that has most likely blown up their own people to prop up Putin, lets whistleblowers like Sergei Magnitsky die from a heart attack or maybe it was a blow to the head or maybe it was an abdominal rupture or maybe it was Bill Browder (Yes, all listed as causes of death for the man at different times), we're talking about a country that poisons dissidents with polonium and novichok, that to look tough against their terrorists they end up killing both the terrorist and hostages they take (And sometimes they kill more hostages than terrorists themselves), and more. But hey we have no room to talk because apparently we have satanist pizza cabals and Hillary Clinton killed 400 people with a crossbow or something.

Normalize their own conspiracy theories and state sponsored xenophobia and bigotry - Their Bill Browder is our George Soros. Their foreign agencies are our secret Muslims. Their GLBTQ people are well our GLBTQ people.

Promote dehumanization - It's ridiculous we're even having this debate, a human being's life and dignity should always be worth more than a gun or a confederate statue. But now we're seeing this debate where we're hearing "Hmm, maybe that's not the case"
We are seeing our fellow Americans get attacked and have their unique value destroyed.

Cause or enable destruction - Quite simply, a goal here is to lower the functioning of the US, sap social and economic power. The conspiracy theorists and the alt-right forces we see being promoted can do that through several ways; the first is their racism and xenophobia is just not workable, there's some money to be made in racism, but more in having cosmopolitanism and globalization. If you don't want a Muslim American's money or a GLBTQ American's money, that's less money moving about, that's less fluidity and more instability. Not to mention the conspiracy theorists and the alt-right often have no real economic ideas or platforms.

Promote Horizontal Nationalism or the Psy Ops Coup - Like the virus that uses the material of it's host, this is where we're actually being made into Russia or more sympathetic for the Putinist regime. If one side says Putin is bad, then the 'other side' will contradict it. We're seeing rhetoric being made where there are Americans who are actually more 'other' than the Putinist regime. Google "Thank you Russia" or "I'd rather be Russian than Democrat". The funny thing is Russia didn't create that propaganda, they did.
What if we reach a point where the liberal is seen as oppressor and Russia is seen as a potential liberator?

Uniting, coming together, stopping divisiveness and bitterness. It's possible.

It should actually be very easy!

Unite, befriend, and love the people the far right hates: Liberals, Jewish Americans, Muslim Americans, GLBTQ Americans, immigrants, etc.

Unite with other people who debunk and dismiss Republican conspiracy theories like Pizzagate, QAnon, False Flags, Crisis Actors, Birtherism, Jade Helm, White Genocide, and more.

Unite with other people who call out the quacks, conspiracy theorists, fearmongers, and extremists like the alt-right, the incels, homophobes, the Flynn clan, John Guandolo, Tony Perkins, Steve King, and the Trump clan.
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