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Are Republicans this cynical? I'm sure some of them are earnest in their call

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/robert-jeffress-demonization-pollticians_us_59419625e4b003d5948cf12e

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/06/17/ted-nugent-once-said-obama-should-suck-on-my-machine-gun-now-he-wants-to-tone-down-the-hateful-rhetoric/?utm_term=.d7006fc64c29

for lowering the political temperature. Some of them are exploiting the situation. Reminds me of how Ken Starr came out and apologized for the Clinton special counsel White Water investigation just as Americans were trying to figure out how 9/11 happened. Convenient. And then when not in power they republicans went crazy with investigations on Benghazi which found Hillary's personal server. Or are Republicans so tribal that they know not what they do?

I remember Jon Stewart making a joke about 'a country that recently had

a civil war's and of course that is so true (he meant the US). We had unity issues in Canada in the early 1970s. And we did what we had to do to understand each other. And though there is talk of independence in Quebec every few decades, the world has changed to such an extent that we would still be economically interconnected if it happened. But we understand each other. We get it. And hundreds of thousands of English speaking kids go to French immersion school in grade school and guess what the cherry is on top: learning a second language as a kid helps you think as an adult. Why the rich always make sure their kids learn another language in the US. Point is that powers that be in the USA have not wanted a reckoning in the last 50 years, as the world became less racist, as race is such an efficient tool of politicians on the right. The most horrid and blatant racism was stopped, but without a unifying process. The sad thing is that black culture has made americans on the whole more extroverted through rock and roll, emotions and other such ways over 400 years. And that different culture, as compared to England or Canada, gave the US a leg up the 20th century when the middle class exploded. US has been the best at so much. But especially at extroversion (and financial wealth because of slavery) . Other non wasp cultures helped too. (Canada and Briain are losening up as we speak due the variety of immigrants we have these days - and Canada is opening up to indigenous culture because of all Trudeau has done). But the US will not talk about both sides of the street and who gets to take blame and credit for all of the bad and great things in America. Because the GOP has an agenda to win elections using the southern strategy wedge of all wedges - so that rich people don't have to pay taxes.

At what point do they hope for terror and start doing things to encourage

a terrifying situation to happen to give themselves the excuse to make their base afraid? And are they already doing that with the NRA and gun culture?

TERROR TERROR TERROR all over GOP frequented discussion forums.

Your chances of dying in a car accident are much greater. I guess they want to scare people back to being afraid of terror rather than being afraid of being one of the 23 million who will lose health care coverage because of Trump's AHCA. What do you call people who use terrorist events they did not physically cause, to spread the threat of terror, or enlarge it, to get a political outcome? Are they not terrorists too?

I think the GOP are tickled pink Russia is putting their foot on the scale

of American politics. That's the 'Trump coalition' in actual fact. Transnational as political coalitions get. I don't think the GOP mind feeling interconnected to authoritarians and oligarchs around the world. Not so lonely taking wealth and security away from millions when you have friends who have your backs. And who you can laugh at others with. They are looking like the cats who swallowed canarys. There was a time when as Americans they felt interconnectedness with other Americans.

This may be out there but would no longer forcing human rights and

other American values on other countries leave room for graft? And businesses like Trump's getting all manner of the best deals internationally because they have the money to pay to play? Not fighting graft means that fruit sellers will not be able to make a proper income. Remember the Tunesian fruit seller who set himself on fire he was so frustrated with being shook down and that started the arab spring? And now will those with money be able keep their positions in a hierarchy, including people like Trump, when graft is not fought against? And they then complain about economic refugees.

Why Trump Lies

By Brooke Gladstone at Slate

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/05/why_trump_lies_it_s_not_to_hide_the_truth_it_s_to_alter_reality.html

"SNIP................

Consensus is the bedrock of democracy. For differences to get resolved in a properly democratic fashion, there needs to be agreement over the terms of the debate. Interlocutors must be aware of their shared rights and responsibilities, and they need to be capable of proceeding from a common set of facts and premises.

When political actors can’t agree on basic facts and procedures, compromise and rule-bound argumentation are basically impossible; politics reverts back to its natural state as a raw power struggle in which the weak are dominated by the strong.


Even if each of our realities is unique, our common cultures and environments ensure that we share some fundamental principles. That is what enables consensus, and that is what is under attack.

By degrading the very notion of shared reality, Trump has disabled the engine of democracy. As Resnikoff wrote: “When the truth is little more than an arbitrary personal decision, there is no common ground to be reached and no incentive to look for it.”


................SNIP"

GOP totally framing Mueller as a Democratic coup against Trump.

Go to the Discussionist now to see it. That is why they won't go on camera criticizing Trump. Then want to pen back in those free ranging Trump voters who rejected establishment republicans and chose populist Trump instead last year. That has been the plan all along. They want no footage of congressional Republicans being against Trump. They desperately want the 36% back into the GOP fold. They are hanging the stock market dump today around Democratic necks too. Maybe that is to attract centrists. We don't seem to have much footage of republicans favoring Trump either. I guess that is for the centrists. I guess they will let these two separate realities play out on separate networks and webpages. No reaction from Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell will be forthcoming on anything. At least McConnell has a shell to retreat into. What is Ryan going to do? Cleave the country like they have, and do not get caught reacting to anything in Washington, and there is your big tent. Two separate narratives. Party first GOP. Party before country it is for you.

Oh dyslexia is just a type of brain. You can be a genius and dyslexic. Of course Einstein

was dyslexic and even his colleagues who admired him were frustrated with his lack of study of details. But it is all relative. If you have a 140 IQ and are dyslexic you work for NASA. Look at it like pattern recognition. They pay attention to form not language. And if you have the 3D type brain it takes lots of brain power. So often you are describing the shape of something in your mind, how it relates to other things, not the details of it. It is called dynamic reasoning. Looking at patterns of the past to come up with patterns in the future. Why dyslexics are good at sciences, business, acting, and politics. And yes public speaking in many cases. (I am not).

That's why the GOP keep nominating dyslexics as their Presidential candidates. The Bushes,

Reagan and Trump all dyslexics. They speak in generalities and from the heart...making them seemingly presidential to those who read too much into those generalities. They are good at the big picture and bad at details. Good at sussing out the concrete and great at tearing down the fictions of others as they are good at the concrete not social constructs. Perfect political puppets.When Democrats elect dyslexics they are not puppets but the smartest: Kennedy and Woodrow Wilson and Teddy Roosevelt. Eleanor Roosevelt was dyslexic too and played a major part in FDR's administration as his eyes and ears. Churchill was dyslexic too.
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