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Hometown: Deep South, USA
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I'm afraid they do not. I do agree those behaving

this way may be just "a few short steps away from some guy hiding behind a cartoon frog." But liberals are far more than a few short steps away.

You've been very courteous as I denigrated what's-her-name,

, and thanks.

My own experience is that all during this time many, many others, some with far, far larger readerships, have been beating that same drum against not just rump but many others involved in the destruction of our government. I also find that one in-depth article in The Atlantic, Foreign Affairs, New Yorker, or many other quality journals, does incredibly more for my understanding than a tweet.

I'm with you that we all need to set ourselves for a long haul, though. Bed time.

Conservatives naturally have a dark view of humanity.

It's a big part of what makes them conservative. In this case, it wouldn't matter how many people they see working happily for the pleasure of working and/or for its other rewards, they "feel" most people would not work if they didn't have to.

Frankly, I've come to the conclusion that strong conservatives are simply not fit for leadership in a democracy.

I love "mainstream" American poverty. Something to

be proud of, sort of, not exactly extremely, but I'm not kidding either. Most poor kids may not have optimal nutrition, yet they're growing up mostly strong and healthy, ready to take on life, anyway.

Do the schmucks this stuff appeals to really think poverty should be living under shrubs on highway right-of-ways? Sheltering their children in cardboard boxes? Those children too weak from rickets and pellagra to attend school?

And what would they do about it then? Or, I should of course ask, what are they doing about it now?

Me too, but... They're activists. He especially

intends to remain a public figure, she can't help but be one. So their books will have to be written with their effect on opinion in mind. Still looking forward to this one.

Big NO to rhis jerk and to everyone who chose not to hear

two years of exhaustively repeated positive, hopeful, inspiring messages. And, even better, extensive plans meant to lift the entire nation.

Right now we should be discussing

* How high the minimum wage is being raised and how much it needs to be adjusted in various areas.
* How classes in state colleges are being made affordable and comparing them to each other.
* How many solar panels our houses will have, and how much power sharing agreements will lower our utility bills. And that Congress is overruling red state laws giving rights to all power generated by solar on private property to power companies.
* How many good jobs dozens of large public works projects are expected to create.
* The return of guaranteed annual vacation time to all workers.

And so, so much else that makes me want to cry right now.

Some people are just wired to attack and fire into the center of the left, so dysfunctionally focused that they can't care as much about the huge dangers from the right--and can't change. Jerks like this represent just one of the groups whose terrible judgement helped elect Trump, keep Congress and state houses in Republican hands, and provide enormous assistance to extremist plutocrats who won huge through their tragic foolishness.

70K votes over 3 states, Buckley. We need you like we need Trump.

Wow. Astonishing how our worlds change in such a

really, really brief period. My grandmother was a mother of 3 in 1918, but she lived on the other side of the country and died before I was aware enough to ask her about things like the great flu epidemic. How terrifying it must have been. Like yours, though, so recently past that she actually lived in that incredibly different world and I actually knew her personally.

Yup. A relative by marriage attended one, perhaps this one,

can't remember, and was caught up briefly in all the entertaining groups and events, but one Sunday she noticed that she couldn't remember hearing "Jesus" mentioned the entire 6 hours or so she was there--and finally started comparing Mega-Socialization Center to what she actually wanted out of church. Some months later she tried replacing it with a Christian dating service.

There are huge ideological divisions. They'll pull together

sometimes and have some victories, some big ones, but a huge weakness of extremists of all types is their intransigence and inability to cooperate for long, if at all, with others. Just look at the totally unnecessary ideological collision Bill USA's post on Planned Parenthood describes.

And, yes, right now Trump is able to use "his" thug press to threaten congressmen who step out of line, but how long will that last? Bannon, for instance, isn't really Trump's man, he's just harnessing Trump's power. And most congressmen are really only answerable to the wealthy interests who will fund their reelection, not to their constituents, so Trump will only prevail where his interests run in tandem with the plutocrats', and even the they are in competition with each other for power and have different agendas. For instance, some are aligned with Christian reconstructionists and some are adamantly not, ultimately implacable enemies trying to use each other.

How many in the Koch alliance alone, several hundred strong, really think destroying universal public education would be good for business? Now that it might actually seem to be horribly, conceivably possible?

Yes, but we only became their #1 enemy when the

Soviet Union collapsed. I saw it with the tremendous ramping up of hostility conservatives turned on Democrats when Bill Clinton was running, to unprecedented levels. When the existential threat strong conservatives always know exists disappeared from without, they focused within.

Putin, ISIS, North Korea, etc., are nothing to be wished for, but hopefully these very real existential threats will help shift the focus of their inevitable hostility and aggression outward again.

Right now people like Bannon are trying very hard to develop an international movement against liberalism and secularism in which our conservatives are joined with Russia's, and even potentially Islam's conservatives, against liberalism and secularism. At least that's the grand idea, but they've only gotten this far by hiding what they're really up to.
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