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Are you watching Rachel? Bombshells coming right up. More Russia dot connecting.

New WaPo story RE Manafort subpoena docs. Money. Criminal stuff.
Now she's going into Mueller and all the info he's asked the WH for.

Rachel shows are turning into suspense thrillers.

Lawrence just said POTUS went to UN today and threatened to commit a war crime

when he talked about destroying NK. It was an insert in his speech; the speech writers did not put it there. Compared it to Adlai Stevenson talking to UN about the Cuban missile crisis and saying he was not there to score debate points, but to work for peace.

I sure hope the generals are doing something about keeping the football away from him.

"Let Hillary Clinton roar." Need to face forces that are still there; not scapegoat her.

Let Hillary Clinton roar
by Susan Bordo

Editors's note: Susan Bordo is the Otis A. Singletary Chair in the Humanities and Professor of Gender and Women's Studies at the University of Kentucky. Her new book is "The Destruction of Hillary Clinton." The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of the author.

(CNN)Something very strange is going on in post-mortems about the 2016 election. On the one hand, the hard evidence is piling up that a combination of factors largely outside of Hillary Clinton's control were responsible for her loss to Donald Trump. On the other hand, many apparently don't want Hillary Clinton to talk about any of that.

(Lots snipped)

The fact is, consumers of the popular media -- and not just Fox -- were virtually bludgeoned into dislike and suspicion of Clinton. Even the most sympathetic op-eds invariably would genuflect to her "flaws." The caricatures, no matter how ill-founded, became nailed into popular consciousness. So should we be surprised to see them surface yet again in reaction to her book?

The mainstream media has also yet to speculate -- let alone diagnose -- what seems perfectly obvious to anyone with an ounce of common sense: that Clinton's electoral college loss was certainly not primarily due to whatever mistakes she may have made, but an unusually multi-faceted and highly potent combination of disparate assaults: from the left, the right, the Russians, the FBI, a flagrantly lying opponent who made a chant of her suitability for prison, and yes, the media itself.

I mean, really: How could anyone have survived all that? It was, as she herself describes it, a perfect storm. Yet nearly 66 million stood by her, many of whom remain intensely devoted supporters.

When, too, has any election culminated in a greater disaster for democracy? No wonder the Democrats, the pundits, and the voters themselves are so eager to disown their own complicity and to cast Clinton as the sole cause of our present situation.

"She gave us Trump," disgruntled Sanders supporters like to say. No, Trump's win is the result of many things, and we would do better to try to unpack them with precision and a view to complexity rather than scapegoat Clinton or her campaign.

Hillary Clinton may have been a special kind of lightning rod, but the elements that brought her down are still bristling in our atmosphere, ready to strike again, and we need to face them. The fact is that is it only when we've done that that we will be able to truly "move on."


Audio & transcript of Terry Gross's NPR Interview with Hillary. 43 minutes; very worthwhile.

Entire interview well worth either reading or listening.


Did you catch this in Rachel's interview with Hillary last night? It really struck me.

Many of you noted Hillary saying T is a clear and present danger, but this really struck me:

"I’m hoping that on the really big issues, there’s enough authority to be able to restrain and contain the president."

I though of a couple recent threads where we were talking about hoping Mattis (or someone) can keep the nuclear football away from him, and asking what does it say about what we've come to when we are entertaining the idea of the general taking control of the president as being a potentially good thing.

The quote is from this segment of Rachel's interview:
"I’m hoping that the people who have a mature view of the exercise of power when it comes to something like NK …life or death …when it comes to something that would be incredibly stupid given NK …pulling out of the Iran deal so we have a second nuclear crisis to contend with …I’m hoping that on the really big issues, there’s enough authority to be able to restrain and contain the president.

This president and some of the people around him pose a clear and present danger to our country.

The people around him have to be our first line of defense against him doing something that could have serious repercussions."

In Stunning New Deal with Democrats, Trump Agrees to Be Impeached

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—In his most stunning deal yet with Democratic leaders, Donald Trump agreed on Friday to be impeached by the end of 2017.

Emerging from an Oval Office meeting with Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, a beaming Trump touted the deal for his imminent removal from office.

“Chuck and Nancy and I got a deal done on impeachment,” Trump said. “It was a good deal and it was a fast deal.”

Trump said that the Democrats had convinced him that agreeing to be impeached would make him soar in popularity. “People are going to love me for doing this,” Trump said. “They’re going to love it on all the channels.”

In a barb aimed at House Speaker Paul Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Trump said that the impeachment agreement was something he “never could have gotten done” with the Republican leadership.

“I went around and around with the Republicans for months on health care,” he said. “This meeting with Chuck and Nancy took, what, five minutes, and I could get back to watching TV.”

Hoping to capitalize on their momentum, Pelosi and Schumer said that they would meet with Trump next week to discuss the ouster of Vice-President Mike Pence.

Andy Borowitz is the New York Times best-selling author of “The 50 Funniest American Writers,” and a comedian who has written for The New Yorker since 1998. He writes the Borowitz Report, a satirical column on the news, for newyorker.com.


Hillary on Rachel now! "Hope there is enough authority to restrain the president on big issues" (NK)

Talking North Korea and how we need the best people in the state dept. but it's been decimated. We need experienced diplomats and need them NOW.
"I kept waiting for the A-ha moment when Tillerson would call in experienced people and say tell me what i don't know, but it never happened."

"I'm hoping that on the really big issues (NK) there is enough authority to restrain the president."
RAchel: placing a lot of hope for the country on the people who surround him.
Hillary: we don't have much else.

Listen here if you don't have cable:

WH Rejects Supremacist Label: No One Has Done More Than Trump to Prove White People Aren't Superior

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Upbraiding the ESPN anchor Jemele Hill for calling Donald Trump a “white supremacist,” the White House press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, said on Wednesday that “no one has done more than President Trump to prove that white people are not superior.”

“It’s grossly unfair that Ms. Hill sought to portray Donald Trump as an upholder of white supremacy, when everything he says or does directly undermines that whole concept,” Sanders said. “Anyone who thinks that Donald Trump is on some mission to make white people look good hasn’t been paying attention.”

Sanders urged the ESPN anchor to “do her homework” on Trump before making baseless allegations. “Read his tweets,” she said. “Listen to his speeches. If you still think Donald Trump is trying to prove that white people are superior, I tip my hat to you.”

Ending on a personal note, Sanders said that she was “a hundred-per-cent sure” that her boss is not a white supremacist. “Donald Trump cannot even spell the word ‘supremacist,’ ” she said.


Mark Warner on Rachel talking if FB can be compelled to testify

What I learned from Hurricane Irma

Lessons from Irma

Guest post by Emer Kelly

I wrote a post about Hurricane Harvey a couple of weeks ago. I wanted to highlight the kindness people showed one another during that catastrophe, and as I wrote, I also horrified myself with images of people's homes covered in water, cars destroyed, what belongings they had left placed in plastic trash bags as they were rowed to safety. The images made me shudder, and I wondered what I could do to help, and tried not to imagine it happening to me, or the people I love.

I live in St. Petersburg FL.

This week has been in intense whirlwind, as I battled with the reality of my worst fears coming true. Here are a few things I learned this past week:

1. Things don't matter
As horrifying as those images of houses under water are, when we were told we had a category 5 hurricane possibly making landfall in our town, all we cared about was our safety, and the safety of our loved ones. The house was suddenly inconsequential, and once we had boarded it up as best we could, we left it and fled to safety.

As the days wore on, and the forecast got worse, I tried to cut my emotional ties to stuff, and focus on the people around me. We are lucky that we have friends and family who will take us in if our home is destroyed. We would be ok.

2. People are amazing
We have no close friends or family in Northern Florida or Georgia, but an amazing co-worker of my love's took us and our dog in (the resident cats weren't pleased) for 6 days. One of our hosts had a tooth abscess, and underwent an emergency root canal while we were there. They also had leaks in their own home to deal with. Despite all this, they chatted, cooked, had fun with us, and made us feel so welcome.

3. Gratitude is a sanity-saver
Evacuating in a hurry and driving in insane traffic through the night it very stressful, but gratitude got us through it. Every time it felt like too much, we repeated all the things we were grateful for:

We're ok
Our closest family members are ok
We have somewhere warm and safe to stay
All our important documents are safely with us
We have enough gas to get us there

4. Did I mention people are amazing?
You would think spending hours on the road would make drivers crabby, angry, and aggressive. But despite the traffic, the stress, and the frustration, the vast majority of people on the road were lovely. There was no honking, no yelling, no road rage. The people we met at rest stops and gas stations were exhausted, but friendly - we were all in this together. A friend of mine even experienced locals in South Carolina coming out to the rest stops with food and dog treats for weary evacuees.

5. I can't emphasize enough how wonderful people are.
We have some friends who stayed behind, one of whom is a member of the US Coast Guard, the other, a registered nurse. By the time the storm hit, they had turned their home into a safe haven for 9 people, 7 cats, 8 dogs, 5 chickens, 2 goats and 1 snake. Despite the chaos inside, they invited any sick or injured neighbors into their home during the storm, as they knew medical help in the area would be limited.

6. Neighbors are the best
We have amazing neighbors. And I'm sure a lot of you do too. Our neighbors who stayed for the storm had a lot on their minds. But still, they took in our mail for us, turned off the water when we forgot, took photos of the house and assured us everything was intact after the storm, took a chainsaw over to our front yard and cleaned up our downed trees for us, and today are allowing us to work from their homes as we have no internet at ours. As we walk our dog around the neighborhood, I see countless others working together to un-board houses and piece everything back together.

We've been incredibly lucky during this storm. Despite the dire forecast, it ended up hitting our town as a category 1. We still have a house, we have power, we have amazing people in our lives. I have never been so grateful.

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