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Demsrule86

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39. Iowa is not Mid West and does not reflect Mid West.

Reply to blm (Reply #17)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 09:52 AM

Sep 2019

It never was part of the blue wall ... and has more farms than factories.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Nate Silver: Dems should be concerned about influence of IA/NH when both are 90%+ white [View all] highplainsdem Sep 2019 OP

that's why having SC and Nevada on same day JI7 Sep 2019 #1

They're first but not that important anymore as SC and Super Tuesday follow with constituencies... brush Sep 2019 #43

Not to mention the notoriously unreliable (and undemocratic) caucus system in Iowa... hlthe2b Sep 2019 #2

Happy, too.. Colorado got rid of it.. Cha Sep 2019 #24

Me too! Caucuses are a real bad deal. wiley Sep 2019 #68

It would be nice if we had a democracy and everyone got to vote in the primary with the same amount mucifer Sep 2019 #3

Unless everyone went with a ranked choice system... Salviati Sep 2019 #21

A real concern. How did the "Iowa first" tradition get started? iwannaknow Sep 2019 #4

In the early seventies the Iowa caucus was hardly noticed calguy Sep 2019 #19

It has a lower cost media market, and that levels the playing field for those with ehrnst Sep 2019 #31

Hey But We are Iowa Nice :) econron Sep 2019 #5

Tradition, and it's ok to a certain extent . . Iliyah Sep 2019 #6

That's what I've been saying for months. Of the four "early states".... George II Sep 2019 #7

Thanks for the stats, George! Cha Sep 2019 #25

I favor moving the Washington DC primary way up, preferably simultaneous with NH Tom Rinaldo Sep 2019 #66

It would be best if ALL states held their primaries on the same day. I don't know why.... George II Sep 2019 #83

That's why having all the primaries and caucuses on the same day woud be a lot more representative. Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #8

Stupid system where a bunch of rural whites have appointed themselves gatekeepers dalton99a Sep 2019 #9

So they reflect working class white Midwest Americans that some moderate blm Sep 2019 #17

Not really. TwilightZone Sep 2019 #18

And Trump. My point is that 'strategists' are full of sh!t when they argue blm Sep 2019 #20

No one said it didn't matter treestar Sep 2019 #28

I'm pointing out the absurdity of both arguments blm Sep 2019 #33

Not absurd because treestar Sep 2019 #34

Still not the point, but, I'll move on. blm Sep 2019 #35

Iowa is not Mid West and does not reflect Mid West. Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #39

Sure, sure. Now states that went Obama AND Trump are NOT blm Sep 2019 #41

All states matter...but not in determing the nominee who needs to reflect the will of the big tent Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #47

Sure, because YOU say women of color don't like her blm Sep 2019 #48

She is not their sort of candidate for the most part and if campaign rallies elected folks... Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #58

+1000 Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #69

Thanks... Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #73

lol Voltaire2 Sep 2019 #10

Nate has said this before. So have lots of others, including lots of DUers. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #11

whatever. Voltaire2 Sep 2019 #12

LOL. Sorry to bother you with the facts. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #14

lol.. Cha Sep 2019 #26

The idea is nothing new. TwilightZone Sep 2019 #15

Nate Silver is a declared liberation, he doesn't have a "dog in the race." Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #16

Yep. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2019 #67

A white population is not a good representative of progressive values... Joe941 Sep 2019 #13

Too true..nt comradebillyboy Sep 2019 #22

screw racists. EVOLVE. stop dividing america. say no to wall street + go main street. pansypoo53219 Sep 2019 #23

You have to field a candidate who can win...AA voters and that is particularly important in the blue Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #40

You keep saying Voters of color won't vote in the general blm Sep 2019 #44

There was a decrease in Black voters in 16 and look what happened. Your candidate is not popular in Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #45

Horsepoo. They are just becoming familiar with her. blm Sep 2019 #46

She is at 2 % AA community across the polls... And my Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #51

They. Are. Just. Getting. To. Know. The. Candidates. blm Sep 2019 #53

I live in Cleveland ...I have worked elections for years...I am telling you the AA constiuency in Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #52

I grew up in Cleveland suburbs. blm Sep 2019 #57

I don't say I speak for all Democrats...but if the election continues and EW is Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #59

Geez. You just don't WANT to get it. blm Sep 2019 #64

You don't believe it against all evidence...that is your right of course. Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #74

Against all TOO EARLY primary polling. blm Sep 2019 #85

haha....you can't offend me. I love a great debate/argument. I guess we shall see in the coming Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #86

The AA and Latino communities are quite diverse, but generally are pragmatic centrists wiley Sep 2019 #72

I don't think any nominee can win the electoral college. Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #81

I believe Demsrule66 is referring to this trend Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #70

Thanks for posting that ...yes. And there are others but I have to run...will look later. Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #75

The media does it treestar Sep 2019 #27

White: WI 86%, PA 81%, MI 79% crazytown Sep 2019 #29

The AA vote in those states and the union working class vote together gives us the state or not. Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #42

Wow! Maybe it's time to move the first primary to Georgia? ecstatic Sep 2019 #63

I think all primaries should be the same day. That would shorten the primary and get on withe the Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #76

I used to work for an organization that was over 90% white. greymattermom Sep 2019 #30

The point is ...it is not a state that reflects our diversity and making it so they literally choose Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #36

White male candidates have less concern clearly. Especially those who do better in ehrnst Sep 2019 #32

I agree with Nate Gothmog Sep 2019 #37

At one time Nate Silver was fair TSIAS Sep 2019 #38

He has said stuff about Biden which I consider unfair...and think he is in the tank for Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #54

Well I am not worried in the least.. remember who sent President Obama off to win the election with Peacetrain Sep 2019 #49

Its something to take into consideration but certainly nothing to worry about. honest.abe Sep 2019 #50

I actually agree with you although some have been making noises about a 'brokered' convention...seem Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #55

There wont be a brokered convention. honest.abe Sep 2019 #61

Agree! Althou we know that mr. Sanders may push for it, surprisingly mayor Pete has also Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #71

Thank you for talkin me off the ledge as Rachel says! Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #77

HA! Welcome. honest.abe Sep 2019 #78

It is scary...I want Trump gone... Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #80

Indeed. honest.abe Sep 2019 #82

I have always felt like those two states have more power in the primaries than they should have. redstatebluegirl Sep 2019 #56

I think so too. And I really think those days are over. The big must win Iowa is fading...that Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #62

Mixed feelings. It does annoy me that IA and NH get so much attention, ecstatic Sep 2019 #60

Have we ever lost a GE when our nominee won both IA and NH? BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #65

This is an interesting article. Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #79

Neither state represents the Demographics of the Party Gothmog Sep 2019 #84