2016 Postmortem

Galraedia

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71. That still didn't change the tough-on-crime rhetoric of the 1990s or public opinion.

Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:16 PM

Jul 2015

Many candidates campaigned as being tough-on-crime and won, including Clinton. Minus the assault weapons ban, the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 wasn't controversial at the time. But you're right, some did know better. Bobby Scott (D-VA) voted against the bill because it didn't do enough to support prevention programs. But regardless of the facts, public opinion won.

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"Bill Clinton’s Apology: Not Accepted!" [View all] RiverLover Jul 2015 OP

K&R. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #1

Do not let the oligarchy fool you again FlatBaroque Jul 2015 #2

That Rhodes Scholarship came with a price. PeoViejo Jul 2015 #3

All Presidents... For Freddie Jul 2015 #16

Arrrg! nt haikugal Jul 2015 #82

I get your drift PeoViejo Jul 2015 #87

Going from bragging about to apologizing for devastating policy is quite a journey. AtomicKitten Jul 2015 #4

Really bad. If it comes up, I wonder if he'll also apologize for cutting funds for state RiverLover Jul 2015 #6

Or appologize about this: marble falls Jul 2015 #10

Wow. It really was a media black-out on this. I had no idea. Thank you mf. RiverLover Jul 2015 #20

the media does not 'play into their hands' HFRN Jul 2015 #40

OK. You nailed it, and RiverLover Jul 2015 #43

Thank you - in other words they promised much and gave nothing. Now that I look back I cannot jwirr Jul 2015 #53

no, it's not HFRN Jul 2015 #35

No, he's evolved. Honest Doctor_J Jul 2015 #88

+1 NOT GOOD ENOUGH, BILL. appalachiablue Jul 2015 #92

I have not forgotten. TM99 Jul 2015 #5

I hope to FSM that I NEVER have to do that again! Elmer S. E. Dump Jul 2015 #13

Amen! Paka Jul 2015 #19

Especially when they come so late and when it will benefit the one apologizing. jwirr Jul 2015 #57

yes, the thought of that is quite repugnant. nt m-lekktor Jul 2015 #80

K&R. n/t bvf Jul 2015 #7

NAFTA classykaren Jul 2015 #8

....Welfare "reform", repealing Glass-Steagal, China PNTR, Outsourcing, Telecommunications Act. RiverLover Jul 2015 #12

"supremely belated", in-fucking-deed. jomin41 Jul 2015 #9

And when we ask how many lives were ruined we must not forget that it was not just the jwirr Jul 2015 #58

"The Clintons are counting on the forgiving nature of Black people...." Hoppy Jul 2015 #11

NO!!! HE IS NOT! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #22

Just noticing your sig pic for the first time....It makes me uncomfortable, I as a white person randys1 Jul 2015 #77

Damn, I forgot what it was, R1! LOL! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #84

A stark reminder of where we all live randys1 Jul 2015 #85

The First Black President! Elmer S. E. Dump Jul 2015 #28

they're counting on the forgiving nature of tech workers too HFRN Jul 2015 #33

But this will get NO media attention because she has already been selected nt 7962 Jul 2015 #14

I decided a while back that I will not vote for another Clinton. djean111 Jul 2015 #15

No, you don't have to leave DU if Hillary is the candidate. Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #23

Thanks. djean111 Jul 2015 #26

Don't try to figure it out. Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #34

Nailed it...n/t zeemike Jul 2015 #39

So Clinton supporters are a "cult of personality?" Adrahil Jul 2015 #45

It's particularly rich given how Bernie supporters have behaved in the wake of BLM stevenleser Jul 2015 #55

Apologizing for instating bad policy seems to be a greater virtue than fighting against bad policy.. frylock Jul 2015 #72

Also I am doing what I can to help Bernie win including donating money. If he loses I will not jwirr Jul 2015 #61

Clintons "co-presidency" produced Bill & Hilary's "incarceration nation" Divernan Jul 2015 #17

THANK YOU Divernan for posting this excerpt! Its probably more relevant than the portion RiverLover Jul 2015 #24

stage 2: Post-incarceration plus the war on drugs virtualobserver Jul 2015 #29

"the difficulty of getting a job as a felon." passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #93

Rhymes with strangulation. GeorgeGist Jul 2015 #37

And now Clinton's Letter To The United Daughters Of The Confederacy? Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #18

Thanks Thespian2 Jul 2015 #31

Hillary and Bill Clinton's behavior in 2008 was deplorable. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #21

I wasn't paying a whole lot of attention, but SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #86

Tried to tell many people this, but DU has blinders on. They simply ignore how devastating Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #25

NAFTA, MFN-China, H-1b visas HFRN Jul 2015 #36

Yup. He did something Ronnie Raygun couldn't accomplish d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #66

yup, he created a 'service economy' - then immediatly insourced (H-1b visa) and outsourced it to HFRN Jul 2015 #70

DOMA, DADT Doctor_J Jul 2015 #89

DADT was a bridge policy HFRN Jul 2015 #90

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #75

K & R Thespian2 Jul 2015 #27

What a bunch of "told you so's" Suziq Jul 2015 #30

I don't think these are told you so statements. A lot of us fell for them twice. And some of us jwirr Jul 2015 #63

Remember Willie Horton? ericson00 Jul 2015 #32

Stop talking reality on DU! Metric System Jul 2015 #65

I thought talking unreality ericson00 Jul 2015 #79

article 'The Overcriminalization of America' HFRN Jul 2015 #38

How much money sulphurdunn Jul 2015 #41

'The Clintons are counting on the forgiving nature of Black people...' HFRN Jul 2015 #42

Pres. Clinton pardoned his own cocaine-sniffing brother. Divernan Jul 2015 #44

Perhaps he'll promise pardons galore if his wife hughee99 Jul 2015 #50

His giving George W Bush credence and legitimacy revolted me Ichingcarpenter Jul 2015 #46

No kidding. RiverLover Jul 2015 #51

Just the thought of him Plucketeer Jul 2015 #59

Conservative Democrats masquerading as liberals. jalan48 Jul 2015 #47

Yep. RiverLover Jul 2015 #48

LOL jalan48 Jul 2015 #54

Yep. haikugal Jul 2015 #83

This. kath Jul 2015 #56

In the U.S. as in North Korea, whole families also suffer by association w/ criminals Divernan Jul 2015 #49

K&R SamKnause Jul 2015 #52

I really wish the supporters of Sanders would stop attacking the Clintons. Galraedia Jul 2015 #60

I explained what was going on when this all first started. It was Bernie fans attacking Hillary stevenleser Jul 2015 #62

Shh...Facts and history don't matter. Metric System Jul 2015 #64

Shhh....Conservatives' spin of facts & history isn't appreciated here. /nt RiverLover Jul 2015 #68

Many on the left during that time knew better. It wasn't the right thing then, nor now. RiverLover Jul 2015 #67

That still didn't change the tough-on-crime rhetoric of the 1990s or public opinion. Galraedia Jul 2015 #71

RIght. One can't blame a weathervane for the actions of the wind. delrem Jul 2015 #81

That's all they got. Beacool Jul 2015 #100

I'm not real anxious to forgive and forget on that either. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #69

Yes, a first lady, senator and SOS should just spit at people she doesn't agree with......... Beacool Jul 2015 #101

It's my signature line Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #102

That's what it takes to be a politician and a diplomat. Beacool Jul 2015 #105

Forgive and forget: LWolf Jul 2015 #73

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #74

It's a adolescent tactic and they all do it. Phlem Jul 2015 #76

"Not good enough"? Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #78

He's got a lot more to apologize for than that ibegurpard Jul 2015 #91

+1 n/t Oilwellian Jul 2015 #94

Nor should it be. Hillary is going to have a Minority problem once people learn sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #95

No, she won't. Beacool Jul 2015 #98

Sad to see Dems eat their own uwep Jul 2015 #96

Sad to see Democratic leaders enacting republican policies. Over & over. /nt RiverLover Jul 2015 #97

Tune them out. Beacool Jul 2015 #99

because DonCoquixote Jul 2015 #103

And minorities will vote for her. Beacool Jul 2015 #106

Some will DonCoquixote Jul 2015 #111

Hang in there, in time, things will settle down around here oasis Jul 2015 #110

Do you remember what prompted that change to the law? napi21 Jul 2015 #104

All those spoiled rich party girls doing primo lines in the bathroom... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #108

Not ONLY THAT. White guys convicted of holding or selling cocain were napi21 Jul 2015 #112

That 3 strikes was often waved for white kids. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #113

Sorry. That part I didn't know. I assume it was waved in the cases of the "connected ones" napi21 Jul 2015 #114

KnR chknltl Jul 2015 #107

The Clinton campaign is afraid in other words. Fearless Jul 2015 #109