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rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
78. People are angry
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:28 AM
Jul 2016

Last edited Sat Jul 30, 2016, 10:46 AM - Edit history (1)

A bunch of spoiled, uncivil, loud mouthed non-democrat campus left brats just distracted and protested and disrupted the nomination of the first progressive woman to a major party ticket. They booed war heroes and civil rights movement heroes. They dominated media coverage of supposed "democrats divided" when they aren't even democrats. They're infiltrators.

They were there for one reason. We "opened the party up" to them, as they claimed to represent "millennials" or "progressives" but obviously were NOT "democrats" in any meaningful sense.

Anyway, like a lot of democrats I believe they actually made the case against Bernie better than Hillary ever did. These "supporters" would have created a mortifying leftist spectacle that would have revolted the general electorate had their candidate won.

What they've done is also to make the opposite case to the leftists' optimistic demand that we "open" the party to such people. I think many on DU (those who haven't left us for Jack-in-the-Box radicals -- I note most of the posts there get 3-5 comments) reflect the view of most rank and file democrats who've been around: what we just saw is even more reason to a) do away with caucuses next time and b) close all of our primaries to all but registered democrats and c) require our candidates and delegates to be members of the party for some period of time - at least a full year. I'd say, before running or being a delegate.

In my own view this is our own tea party. Allowing them to take over or even have a loud voice will end up damaging our party's national standing jus as the far right element wound up sticking the republicans with Donald Trump.

The whacked out Sarandon/West/Free Mumia/Lock Her Up/No More Wars! campus left hippie faction doesn't vote. They don't support democrats and never have. They didn't intend to help build our party, even if Sen. Sanders himself did stand for that. He accepted and relied on support from people who have never been anything but a fringe element and it harmed his standing with the majority of democratic voters.

They were at the convention on Bernie's behalf oberliner Jul 2016 #1
that was the original intent shireen Jul 2016 #3
They were protesting on behalf of the issues championed by Bernie during the primary campaign oberliner Jul 2016 #12
yeah, it's called democracy. nt shireen Jul 2016 #14
Protesting is part of democracy as well oberliner Jul 2016 #20
That it is.... paleotn Jul 2016 #69
I never used "BoB," but I think dropping the "Bernie" Hortensis Jul 2016 #83
That's a fact wallyworld2 Jul 2016 #54
They were disruptive and rude. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #35
That's kind of the point of protesting oberliner Jul 2016 #42
They betrayed their own hypocrisy for the whole nation to see. BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #49
Why protest the Democratic convention? Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #80
Because you think the DNC was unfair to your candidate oberliner Jul 2016 #82
So you really have no compromising bone in your body? Bernie stood up to the supporters and did floriduck Jul 2016 #50
I support Hillary and oppose the people who tried to disrupt her speech. oberliner Jul 2016 #61
I thought Bernie said DLCWIdem Jul 2016 #68
Sabotaging their own goals in the process... FarPoint Jul 2016 #29
So, "infiltrators" then? rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #76
Agreed, but it's over. Sanders is no longer a Democratic candidate LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #5
But their opposition to Hillary was forged during the primary oberliner Jul 2016 #13
Oh, I agree; I just think there's no point in letting them use his name anymore LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #25
Fair enough oberliner Jul 2016 #27
How bout just protesters ? kacekwl Jul 2016 #70
No doubt Bernie played a role in it but it was a primary Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #38
I agree 100%. They're just "Busters" and not interested in uniting to defeat Putin's puppet. BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #2
Green Tea-Publican Busters, Zealots. Those idiots are all a detraction to Bernie himself now Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #37
hey! don't insult green tea. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #57
I can agree with that treestar Jul 2016 #4
It was Bernie or Bust, they're no longer with Bernie, so they're merely Busters nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #6
Already have, and agree completely. auntpurl Jul 2016 #7
They are somewhat relevant, aren't they? oberliner Jul 2016 #15
I have no idea what these people were protesting auntpurl Jul 2016 #23
"NO TPP" was the most common sign and chant oberliner Jul 2016 #26
No TPP was appropriate since Hillary is not in favor of the deal auntpurl Jul 2016 #28
Obama is very much in favor of TPP oberliner Jul 2016 #31
Of course she could end up supporting the deal. auntpurl Jul 2016 #40
I agree with all of your points here oberliner Jul 2016 #47
Glad we're basically on the same page in the end. auntpurl Jul 2016 #51
Bernie and the chants PaulHendra Jul 2016 #62
In favor! PaulHendra Jul 2016 #45
Apparently the NEW hashtag du jour is #JillnotHill... brooklynite Jul 2016 #8
If the Busters put as much energy skepticscott Jul 2016 #44
I'm calling them dead Enders and yeah they are not with Bernie because #HesWithHer onecaliberal Jul 2016 #9
Maybe? PaulHendra Jul 2016 #10
People of good will are always welcome in the big tent. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #17
No Trump supporter, here! PaulHendra Jul 2016 #34
Good points oberliner Jul 2016 #18
after the olive branch, then what? BT35 Jul 2016 #43
From the "small group" PaulHendra Jul 2016 #55
Deeds not words That Guy 888 Jul 2016 #66
Hillary supporters and progressives are not mutually exclusive categories Nonhlanhla Jul 2016 #65
Absolutely! musicblind Jul 2016 #75
Perhaps "democrats" should use some... fleabiscuit Jul 2016 #71
Too few heros Protalker Jul 2016 #77
I'm good with just calling them assholes... BooScout Jul 2016 #11
That term works for me as well. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #19
If they don't support Bernie, then they shouldn't use his name. NT LostOne4Ever Jul 2016 #16
Agree. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #21
i don't think many of the worst ones ever supported him JI7 Jul 2016 #22
Berniecrats jaceaf Jul 2016 #24
Is your goal to tie them to Bernie, or Bernie to them? demwing Jul 2016 #72
They need to stop using his name liberal N proud Jul 2016 #30
exactly - far too many had "Bernie" shirts on last night to ignore their allegiance DrDan Jul 2016 #73
I agree with that. I have a lot of respect for how Bernie handled the last few weeks. sarae Jul 2016 #32
Their proposed Fart-In might offer a new name. Basic LA Jul 2016 #33
I support this but some labels simply stick. Nt NCTraveler Jul 2016 #36
Many of us already have! DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #39
Good idea wryter2000 Jul 2016 #41
I agree, they are not representative of Bernie's supporters or his intentions. Firebrand Gary Jul 2016 #46
The Jilluded. Scurrilous Jul 2016 #48
I cannot believe some of the hard core responses to a minor suggestion of trying to separate floriduck Jul 2016 #52
People are angry rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #78
I agree with you. But that is not because Bernie was responsible, once he endorsed Hillary. He floriduck Jul 2016 #84
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #85
I'm just thinking of them as renegade members of the CA delegation. Starry Messenger Jul 2016 #53
Some people are gonna be fighting this primary for the next 10 years. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #56
The convention is over. Blue Idaho Jul 2016 #58
No. That's what they are called. Everyone knows it refers to his supporters and not him. n/t Lil Missy Jul 2016 #59
ex-supporters. They abandoned him when they joined up with TrumpenStein nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #63
When that group of supporters goes that way, it makes me wonder whether they calimary Jul 2016 #60
I call them Dead-Enders now. n/t wildeyed Jul 2016 #64
Good news! liberalmuse Jul 2016 #67
I get the impression that the people with that attitude are new to politics. CaptainTruth Jul 2016 #74
Agree "Busters" also known as "Trump supporters" awake Jul 2016 #79
Out of respect for the vast majority who will vote for HRC, I've been calling them Busters for days Hekate Jul 2016 #81
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