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2016 Postmortem

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Mon May 30, 2016, 04:36 PM May 2016

Report: Almost 50% of Democrats feel disconnected with party; despondent, helpless about election [View all]

The corporate Democrats have run the party into the ground, and the "queen" of them all is being primed and prepped to perform the coup de grace.

Time to take the party back from the Wall Street infiltrators and bring it back to its New Deal roots, once and for all.


Voters feel disconnected, helpless in 2016, poll says
By Steve Peoples and Emily Swanson The Associated Press
First Published 1 hour ago • Updated 59 minutes ago

Washington • Republicans and Democrats feel a massive disconnect with their political parties and helpless about the presidential election.


The Democratic Party fares only slightly better, with 14 percent saying the party is very or extremely responsive, 38 percent calling it moderately responsive, and 46 percent saying it's only slightly or not at all responsive.


On the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton remains locked in a divisive primary battle with Sanders, a self-identified democratic socialist who has inspired a large and loyal following. The Vermont senator has echoed Trump's charges of an unfair political system that's stacked against him and ordinary Americans, a criticism that resonates with many voters.

"It seems that everything was made straight for Hillary Clinton," said Ron Cserbak, a 63-year-old retired teacher who lives in Cincinnati and usually votes for Democrats.


Worse, 55 percent of Americans, including 60 percent of Republicans and 53 percent of Democrats, say they feel helpless about the 2016 election. And two-thirds of Americans under 30 report feeling helpless.

"I am despondent," Cserbak said. "I wouldn't say I feel totally helpless. I do have a vote."
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K&R CentralMass May 2016 #1
Pure nonsense. What's really in it for you, Hortensis May 2016 #18
If it's so important, why are the Democrats picking a candidate under criminal investigation Fawke Em May 2016 #41
there are a lot of people who are nervous now about Hillary Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #76
few here NJCher May 2016 #103
Iowa was many months ago. Let's not pretend things haven't changed. Matt_in_STL May 2016 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #59
Amazing number$ you have here !! alittlelark May 2016 #75
That was then, this is now! emsimon33 May 2016 #84
What right to you have to berate and badger someone for how they feel? Scootaloo May 2016 #108
"it's the hillhaters who disconnected themselves" passiveporcupine May 2016 #152
Greenwald summed it up nicely in a tweet the other day Electric Monk May 2016 #2
but..but...but...Bernie hasn't been vetted yet. libdem4life May 2016 #6
He has been vetted but there was much mud to throw and it didn't stick n/t Blue Meany May 2016 #26
If you meant "not much mud", then I totally agree. libdem4life May 2016 #85
Yep. That sums it up perfectly. QC May 2016 #15
The neo-liberal Dems love to have it both ways....... socialist_n_TN May 2016 #98
this ^^^ ... 2banon Jun 2016 #162
Yes he did nt vintx May 2016 #133
Hillary Clinton is uninspiring and visionless. phleshdef May 2016 #3
Oh, I think she has a vision, all right. merrily May 2016 #53
NeoCon Regime Change, Promoting the 1%, enriching herself via CF, etc.... amborin May 2016 #62
That is how I see it as well. JEB May 2016 #70
Yep, she has her vision and she keeps passing out the feel good Kool-Aid to her guppies. n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #129
"Where there is no vision, the people perish." QC May 2016 #57
A facebook poster said something that struck me Puglover May 2016 #113
Yeah, but what the people want, and even what's good for the country, QC May 2016 #124
I'm sick of being told that this lack of vision is a feature and not a bug. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #114
he has more believers in Congress that Clinton, which is why he is the larkrake May 2016 #135
He's not the one who can get it done passiveporcupine May 2016 #155
Totally wrong TheFarseer May 2016 #117
I am part of that almost 50 percent bigwillq May 2016 #4
Millions feel Bernie and Trump talk "to" we the people. But also millions feel RKP5637 May 2016 #130
clinton's banking on a trump debacle. I'm not so certain... eom Purveyor May 2016 #5
So were 16 GOP challengers (n/t) EL34x4 May 2016 #52
Indeed all the sop rulebooks are moot at this point. No one has a f'n clue what the public 'mood' Purveyor May 2016 #66
The problem with Trump is that Bettie May 2016 #95
Trump's outrageousness NJCher May 2016 #105
24/7 coverage of blah blah has its intended effect beachbumbob May 2016 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author KingFlorez May 2016 #8
More findings from AP-NORC poll pat_k May 2016 #9
WTH? "Most Republicans (57 percent) say Trump's candidacy has been good for the Republican Party" JudyM May 2016 #72
Perhaps sowing the seeds of discontent here, on reddit twitter tumblr and FB is paying off for y'all Dem2 May 2016 #10
Seeds of discontent? Try 20 plus years of Third Way betrayals... tokenlib May 2016 #13
You said it Dem2 May 2016 #16
Ah ignorant partisans nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #24
Nice victim blaming. cui bono May 2016 #58
There has been discontent for decades -- And yet the democrats get less responsive to change Armstead May 2016 #63
This is what decades of "lesser of two evils" triangulation...... socialist_n_TN May 2016 #99
That is a condescending remark Jarqui May 2016 #19
You don't know condescention Dem2 May 2016 #20
Oh right, it couldn't possibly be the fault of a lackluster front runner, that, fair or not, has... phleshdef May 2016 #27
So you GRhodes May 2016 #35
Welcome to DU! Dem2 May 2016 #43
Thanks GRhodes May 2016 #46
I've made similar posts to yours from the other side of things, but there are marked differences in JCanete May 2016 #83
Thank you for voicing what many of us feel larkrake May 2016 #137
Could not have said it better! passiveporcupine May 2016 #156
You think it's just internet chatter that has people upset? TheFarseer May 2016 #120
Blaming the Democrats it just takes a special kind of Ridiculousness Dem2 May 2016 #146
You can start by making them take the tarriffs off our goods TheFarseer May 2016 #147
the 120,000 who were purged in Brooklyn surely feel disconnected GreatGazoo May 2016 #122
Some Republican was scolded Dem2 May 2016 #145
Exactly DWS/Hillary's goal over the last year AgingAmerican May 2016 #11
After 20+ years of DLC/New Dem/Third Way infestation this is your reward... tokenlib May 2016 #12
The real number is much higher Baobab May 2016 #14
Hoping there are enough ethical people felix_numinous May 2016 #17
unfortunately alot of candidates are running to get on that money train larkrake May 2016 #138
"If ... Scuba May 2016 #21
I think Bernie's candidacy represents the fact that the Working Class are waking up to it. eom Fawke Em May 2016 #47
I feel it. First time in my life I considered declaring independent and not voting aikoaiko May 2016 #22
I'm part of the disillusioned. tabasco May 2016 #23
Ah a low turnout election nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #25
Yes. n/t QC May 2016 #28
So the left "fringe" is actually half of the party. And, the du Clinton supporters swear Doctor_J May 2016 #29
Yeah, but we're the half that doesn't matter Bettie May 2016 #115
Quick!! Print more Loyalty Oaths!! Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #30
It's called losing. Tortmaster May 2016 #31
In this context GRhodes May 2016 #36
You can help us beat Trump, or ... Tortmaster May 2016 #38
Tone deaf GRhodes May 2016 #42
Im sure Green, Republican and ... Tortmaster May 2016 #60
Nothing to see here, people. Maedhros May 2016 #79
Turning people off is what it's supposed to do Fumesucker May 2016 #81
Thanks for the welcome, Tortmaster May 2016 #89
The myth is your vote could have ever been won by Hillary CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #127
Yeah, great idea GRhodes May 2016 #150
I'm doing my part to defeat Trump by supporting Bernie. cui bono May 2016 #74
Congratulations #309 corkhead May 2016 #111
Hillary is the most uninspiring candidate possible, and represents the last gasp of establishment One Black Sheep May 2016 #32
Boy, will you be sad, when, at ... Tortmaster May 2016 #39
Yay... GRhodes May 2016 #45
And imagine how anti-climatic it will be. Fawke Em May 2016 #49
Your misogyny slipped ... Tortmaster May 2016 #61
LOL Art_from_Ark May 2016 #69
Well, tell her to stop ... Tortmaster May 2016 #73
Oh, please Art_from_Ark May 2016 #78
What utter nonsense GRhodes May 2016 #80
oh please MFM008 May 2016 #87
Well said GRhodes May 2016 #106
There's a video of a Sanders ... Tortmaster May 2016 #94
So let me get this straight GRhodes May 2016 #107
THAT wasn't misogyny Amaril May 2016 #123
Since I'm a woman and a feminist, not a bit. Fawke Em May 2016 #102
So you were counting on Bernie writing off your loans? CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #125
Nope GRhodes May 2016 #149
Whoa - way, way too many assumptions, One Black Sheep May 2016 #48
YOU Need To Pick Up Thomas Franks's New Book Called ChiciB1 May 2016 #55
I just finished reading it as well and I concur with everything you said… the truth does hurt Agony May 2016 #64
Thanks For Suggestions... I Live In Florida & Heard About A New ChiciB1 May 2016 #136
Hahahaha! Tortmaster May 2016 #67
Anybody suggesting that ... Tortmaster May 2016 #68
Well, Keep Your Blinders On, It's Apparent You Don't Have A Clue... n/t ChiciB1 May 2016 #139
Only those in privilege bubbles seem not to realize that there has been no recovery-- eridani May 2016 #86
Nothing says privilege ... Tortmaster May 2016 #88
OK, just fuck the 80% who have benefitted from none of this. eridani May 2016 #91
No. Don't fuck them. Tortmaster May 2016 #93
Sanders has already raised large sums of money for progressive candidates eridani May 2016 #148
Your view is seriously skewed, but you are entitled to it larkrake May 2016 #141
Yes...it's well worth the read..! KoKo May 2016 #109
wow. that's better than helping us survive? Viva_La_Revolution May 2016 #77
I dunno, I've seen a lot of frenzies Scootaloo May 2016 #112
We are all stuck in the mud larkrake May 2016 #140
Once the TPP, TTIP, and TISA are passed, Americans will realize that this election was the last bjo59 May 2016 #33
Bingo Left Brain May 2016 #37
That's very true. Nyan May 2016 #56
I've thought it was LWolf May 2016 #96
Many Americans WON'T realize it, unfortunately Doctor_J May 2016 #119
Are you sure it isnt cheap theater already? I doubt our votes are counted larkrake May 2016 #142
When polls are taken, such as this one, they do not calculate in how each state will vote tonyt53 May 2016 #34
I fit this description. Fawke Em May 2016 #40
I went out canvassing yesterday marlakay May 2016 #44
I keep wondering if we'll be allowed back when she has to step down to take Fawke Em May 2016 #50
Shouldnt be a problem here, you are a true Democrat at heart larkrake May 2016 #143
They don't seem to get that 2016 is not 2008 and Hillary is not Obama merrily May 2016 #54
There;'s been a disconnect for a long time Armstead May 2016 #65
They can go pound sand. Don't need any of them. Paulie May 2016 #71
This is the election where we discovered that we are no better than the Republicans. emsimon33 May 2016 #82
The malaise of the American voter comes from too much money in the electoral process senz May 2016 #90
Buncha no good, entitled, whiners if you ask me. progressoid May 2016 #92
Well, how would YOU feel if your choice is between these two? Herman4747 May 2016 #97
Honestly, I thought "Bernie or Bust" was a misogynist way of saying you'd support the nominee Bucky May 2016 #100
LOL. Took me a minute, but I got it. Fawke Em May 2016 #104
i am not corporate democrat and neither are the majority of those who reject sanders beachbum bob May 2016 #101
I think we need a NEW new deal. I think we all need to write a platform for our Lodestar May 2016 #110
Count me in that group TheFarseer May 2016 #116
More like libodem May 2016 #118
After my primary I left the party sellitman May 2016 #121
Honestly, to them this is the very best of both worlds. You take away any influence internally while TheKentuckian May 2016 #128
Yup. That's EXACTLY what they want. Apathy in the primaries. Obedience in the general. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #153
Primary? sellitman Jun 2016 #161
In the states with fair primaries, we won. In the states with corrupt primaries, we "lost". (nt) w4rma Jun 2016 #163
I left! I'm fed up with the new democratic party. Now, I'm Unaffiliated/Independent. They left me, RKP5637 May 2016 #126
I don't care what you call yourself, as long as you vote in the Democratic primaries. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #154
Yep, I definitely do. I'm still a democrat!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2016 #158
Count me among that number. VulgarPoet May 2016 #131
K&R! vintx May 2016 #132
That's pretty much how I feel because I fear our choice is going to elect "The Donald." Vinca May 2016 #134
I'm pretty much done with the party on a national level, but I'm still in love with the local party! Attorney in Texas May 2016 #144
Not me. It's a big, contentious, and sometimes messy process cheapdate May 2016 #151
These Dem. voters aren't going to show up in Nov. The indys will leveymg May 2016 #157
Don't worry, from June 16th, Skinner will personally censor any such disconnection. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #159
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #160
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