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Albertoo

(2,016 posts)
23. Surely you jest
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:56 PM
Apr 2016

You mentioned sports. Tennis or golf players shake hands at the end of a match. You don't see Tiger Woods saying Rory McIlroy that he's an infidel who must pay the jizzya with willing submission. You don't see Fernando Alonso (a high priest in the Holy Church of McLaren) say it's McLaren or the highway, and that Kimi Räikkönen and Ferrari are infidels which will burn in F1 hell. Nothing is as gratuitously divisive as religion.

You've mentioned Jesus a few times. I'm curious, can you provide an example of a fundamental claim he made that was "already known... and...fairly well distributed"?

Since all gospels are at least half copied from Mark (who was he?), and since Mark contains obvious mistakes (geography) and tall tales (healings, resurrection), I would like to know what part of the gospels are quotes of a real Mr Jesus. And then which quotes you consider to be both reliable and bringing innovative moral insights.

To be fair, I like the story of Jesus and the woman taken in adultery
If only because it kind of nullifies the Old Testament and the Quran.
Alas, I hear it's probably not even an authentic part of the original John
(John whose book must have been written under the influence of serious weed smoking)
Gideons encourage stoning Cartoonist Apr 2016 #1
I suppose you yourself can see the difference Albertoo Apr 2016 #2
I dunno, there are still a number of Christians today who want to kill adulterers and blasphemers. trotsky Apr 2016 #7
Oh yes, the 'holy' books are all bad, but Christianity has been beaten back longer and harder Albertoo Apr 2016 #9
They're very, very few. Igel Apr 2016 #13
I would probably dispute your "isolated" description of those Christians. trotsky Apr 2016 #14
From the author of Celsius 7/7. rug Apr 2016 #3
The report was carried by the London Times which is in the habit of checking its facts Albertoo Apr 2016 #4
Do post that link then so we can all check the facts. rug Apr 2016 #5
Religions have books full of contradictions which teach nothing new, except violence they create Albertoo Apr 2016 #6
Do you have that Times' link yet? rug Apr 2016 #8
I make efforts only for honest debaters Albertoo Apr 2016 #10
Me too. rug Apr 2016 #11
That's why I used it Albertoo Apr 2016 #17
"There is nothing valuable..." Sounds like an opinion: 'one man's trash is another man's treasure' - jonno99 Apr 2016 #12
I would be delighted to learn I'm wrong here Albertoo Apr 2016 #18
"As for the strife, it's apparently inherent to abrahamic religions..." Is that surprising? jonno99 Apr 2016 #21
Surely you jest Albertoo Apr 2016 #23
when in fact it's the weak-minded believers RussBLib Apr 2016 #15
How do you think they should be eliminated? rug Apr 2016 #16
Education Albertoo Apr 2016 #19
What's his? rug Apr 2016 #20
Threatening apostates is a defining feature of cults Major Nikon Apr 2016 #22
But the 'Bible' is two books which contradict each other Albertoo Apr 2016 #24
Even both of those books individually frequently contradict themselves Major Nikon Apr 2016 #25
Oh yes, absolutely Albertoo Apr 2016 #26
Here's the really fun part Major Nikon Apr 2016 #27
It goes on: the 'virgin birth' is due to a misplaced mistranslation Albertoo Apr 2016 #28
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