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30. "Wishful thinking" is free.

Mon Oct 22, 2012, 12:12 PM

Oct 2012

And effective, whether you believe it or not. In a free-market medical system, like in 'free-markets' everywhere, the objective IS NOT to get it right but to make money. Ergo, anything goes. There is 'no honour among thieves'.

Not seeing anything of lasting quality in the free market of my birth, I was indeed forced into "thinking". Thinking about what the marketplace was doing to get me to buy their products took me to a point of appreciating doing without.

That includes of course, 'doing without' the constant reminders of how sick you are.

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I can't understand why otherwise reasonable, educated people fall for homeopathic quackery [View all] Taverner Oct 2012 OP

I have a neighbor who gets ALL her medical advice from her chiropractor hobbit709 Oct 2012 #1

Not defending it or anything but... pipi_k Oct 2012 #9

After a week of being in pain she finally saw an actual MD. hobbit709 Oct 2012 #10

Oh, sorry... pipi_k Oct 2012 #24

That's why I call them chiroquactors Major Nikon Oct 2012 #17

I did have a good chiropracter Taverner Oct 2012 #58

I'm sure there are plenty of people who get some good out of chiroquactors Major Nikon Oct 2012 #71

I totally agree! blueamy66 Oct 2012 #75

The only medical advise I got from my Chiropractor whistler162 Oct 2012 #46

Well, as a corporate group, Big Pharma leaves a lot to be desired. Denninmi Oct 2012 #2

Because it's easy to understand TrogL Oct 2012 #3

Same reason they believe how stars are arranged can tell the future... Archae Oct 2012 #4

Because we don't have insurance? Wait Wut Oct 2012 #5

Homeopathy does not work. HuckleB Oct 2012 #94

Because today's over-priced, chemical-dependent conventional medicine Art_from_Ark Oct 2012 #6

Not to most kids with cancer in the USA. 75% cure rate now. mucifer Oct 2012 #7

My understanding is that cure rate does not account for cancer that comes back. Dr Fate Oct 2012 #18

Of the hundreds of 'alternative' cures available... CanSocDem Oct 2012 #8

It's called "peer review" Taverner Oct 2012 #13

Bingo. (nt) eqfan592 Oct 2012 #14

Right. It would be much better for them to spend their money on wishful thinking and snake oil. Orrex Oct 2012 #16

"Wishful thinking" is free. CanSocDem Oct 2012 #30

"Wishful thinking" is indeed free, and you get what you pay for Orrex Oct 2012 #39

"...pay for..." ???? CanSocDem Oct 2012 #76

Um, no. To all of that. Orrex Oct 2012 #77

Don't forget that on DU2, this poster frequently made the statement Heddi Oct 2012 #78

Despite your simplistic analysis... CanSocDem Oct 2012 #83

Well done, Heddi. trotsky Oct 2012 #84

By all means, defend your medical industry. CanSocDem Oct 2012 #85

Better than blaming the victim, as you do! trotsky Oct 2012 #86

Hey its the doctors are evil guy TZ Oct 2012 #90

Obviously your positive thinking has brought about this recovery Orrex Oct 2012 #91

That must be it! TZ Oct 2012 #92

You are an idiot. mr blur Mar 2013 #107

In my opinion, such attitudes are fundamentally similar... LeftishBrit Oct 2012 #87

+1,000,000 ... 000.000!!!! HuckleB Oct 2012 #93

I have seen a fair share of woo on portions of this site during my time here..... AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #106

Says Mrs. "Positive Thinking Cures Everything". Odin2005 Oct 2012 #26

Obviously, you're easily amazed. mr blur Oct 2012 #89

I keep wondering why otherwise reasonable, educated people Tsiyu Oct 2012 #11

Painkillers suck. Your avatar is the best way to kill pain. Taverner Oct 2012 #12

It made sense way back when FloridaJudy Oct 2012 #15

I dont know what homeopathic medicine is, but ignoring my doctor was the best thing I ever did. Dr Fate Oct 2012 #19

Maybe getting a girlfriend is what actually cured it all??? eom yawnmaster Oct 2012 #20

Already had her- the key actually was listening to her. LOL! Dr Fate Oct 2012 #27

So you are saying that all of your problems actually lead back to a hearing problem? Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #60

Depends on what the peers, errr, I mean puppeteers are saying, I guess. Dr Fate Oct 2012 #61

Meds are overprescribed, yes Taverner Oct 2012 #21

It had nothing to do with allergies. I had high cholesterol, high blood pressure and was overweight. Dr Fate Oct 2012 #29

Agreed, agreed and agreed. Taverner Oct 2012 #31

Yup- this is somewhat off topic. I do not even know what homoepathic meds are! Dr Fate Oct 2012 #33

Homeopathy is a discredited discipline Taverner Oct 2012 #34

Almost like eating more McDonalds hamburgers after they already gave you cancer. Dr Fate Oct 2012 #41

Sort of, only like taking a Big Mac, dipping it in water Taverner Oct 2012 #59

Going vegan sure worked great for Steve Jobs! REP Oct 2012 #80

He claims to have enjoyed sushi, which is not vegan. Dr Fate Nov 2012 #98

Sushi is rice seasoned with vinegar REP Nov 2012 #101

Exactly, on all counts. HuckleB Nov 2012 #105

Nobody doubts that diet and exercise FloridaJudy Oct 2012 #22

Maybe radiation is not the answer? Dr Fate Oct 2012 #28

We know so little about how cancer genes are unlocked Taverner Oct 2012 #32

Have you read "The China Study"? Dr Fate Oct 2012 #35

"The China Study" is fake. Archae Oct 2012 #36

Lots of doctors who take pills themselves and make their living off them agree. Have you read it? Dr Fate Oct 2012 #40

Not so fast. Your debunking was dubunked 2 years ago. Dr Fate Oct 2012 #43

LOL! The main de-bunker in your link is a "Professional Sock Puppeteer", not a scientist. Dr Fate Oct 2012 #49

So says the sock puppet lady. Literally. LOL LOL LOL LOL!!! Dr Fate Oct 2012 #51

True, although I do think there is a grain of truth in the hypothesis Taverner Oct 2012 #54

You think the puppet lady from that link is telling the truth? Is she a "peer"? LOL! Dr Fate Oct 2012 #63

I'm not saying I stand by her - but from what I've read Taverner Oct 2012 #64

Have you read "The China Study"? Dr Fate Oct 2012 #65

Yes, I have Taverner Oct 2012 #66

So you did not read it, only a brief. You relied on the critiques from among others, a puppeteer. Dr Fate Oct 2012 #67

So you read the exhaustingly detailed double blind test? Taverner Oct 2012 #68

yes, I read the entire book. You did not. Dr Fate Nov 2012 #96

It's a classic book of BS. HuckleB Nov 2012 #103

The China Study is woo. FloridaJudy Oct 2012 #44

Have you read it? It was a peer reviewed study by scientists. Also, what meds do you take? Dr Fate Oct 2012 #45

The China Study's often cited critic is not even a scientist- she is a "woo" puppeteer. Dr Fate Oct 2012 #50

"Vegsource" Now there's a "unbiased" source... Archae Oct 2012 #70

Yet you fail to refute any of the facts presented at that site. Dr Fate Nov 2012 #97

FWIW.. sendero Oct 2012 #81

Is your "smell test" (sounds a bit woo) peer reviewed by scientists? The China Study is. Dr Fate Nov 2012 #99

You've been fooled. HuckleB Nov 2012 #104

Thank you. HuckleB Oct 2012 #95

Have you read the China Study? It was a peer reviewed study by scientists. Dr Fate Nov 2012 #100

Do you have any idea how many peer-reviewed studies are pushed as being something great... HuckleB Nov 2012 #102

Good to remember that 50% of all doctors graduated in the bottom half of their class... Scuba Oct 2012 #79

Sometimes even modern medicine can't help - hedgehog Oct 2012 #23

Special tea sounds more like naturopathy (sp?) Taverner Oct 2012 #53

Bravo. My grandmere is currently in a coma. The time could come any minute. revolution breeze Oct 2012 #56

I'm sorry that you are going through this sad time. hedgehog Oct 2012 #62

Most people are irrational, credulous, superstitious idiots. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #25

Yup. Critical thinking is a skill most people lack. HERVEPA Oct 2012 #42

Now wait a minute Sophiegirl Oct 2012 #37

That is different than Homeopathy progressoid Oct 2012 #38

James Randi explains homeopathy perfectly! backscatter712 Oct 2012 #48

Excellent! progressoid Oct 2012 #55

You are not talking about homeopathy, but naturapathy Taverner Oct 2012 #52

True. Unfortunately, it tends to be lumped in with other "natural" therapies. Liberal Veteran Oct 2012 #72

Yep - and a good deal of it doesn't even have the active ingredient Taverner Oct 2012 #73

For a Skeptic-sponsored pseudoscience fair, I demonstrated the brewing of homeopathic beer. backscatter712 Oct 2012 #47

I take it you haven't participated in a "religion" discussion on DU? retread Oct 2012 #57

Hoo boy, they love me over there... Taverner Oct 2012 #69

Desperation is a powerful thing. nt zanana1 Oct 2012 #74

I'm someone who was "cured" natural ways after pharmaceutcals failed me... cherish44 Oct 2012 #82

I wouldn't scoff at all LeftishBrit Oct 2012 #88