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@AP: BREAKING: Newspaper identifies source of U.S. surveillance programs as intelligence agency cont Hissyspit Jun 2013 #1
What a brave man rastaone Jun 2013 #2
Holy SH#T..... "The Federation of Secret Law" How can we know that what they are doing midnight Jun 2013 #3
And how do we gather information if it is not timdog44 Jun 2013 #79
Getting the permission is the thing that makes this secret more legit in my mind... midnight Jun 2013 #82
Again, that timdog44 Jun 2013 #83
Permission is granted by a secret court (FISA). Be paranoid volks. xtraxritical Jun 2013 #129
+1000000 Daniel Ellsberg was interviewed tonight, woo me with science Jun 2013 #84
He is already suffering. dotymed Jun 2013 #118
He's not brave gholtron Jun 2013 #131
You are ripe for Fascist indoctrination LiberalLovinLug Jun 2013 #134
You are wrong. gholtron Jun 2013 #136
What rights? LiberalLovinLug Jun 2013 #138
Fear talking gholtron Jun 2013 #140
The only thing we have to fear is fear itself LiberalLovinLug Jun 2013 #141
I wouldn't call him brave. Beacool Jun 2013 #148
The naked man in the tree warrprayer Jun 2013 #4
"That's just Yossarian." nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #8
;) n/t warrprayer Jun 2013 #9
I need to re-read that book. nt awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #96
kick think Jun 2013 #5
President Obama on whistleblowers in 2008 totodeinhere Jun 2013 #6
There is a difference between Candidate Obama who said things he believed. . . Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #86
Yep, and it's particularly dangerous when you have juajen Jun 2013 #91
Wasn't she going to be outed as a lesbian? marshall Jun 2013 #99
If President Obama will not do what is right out of fear for his life then we might as well totodeinhere Jun 2013 #133
people's army is strong. government's army has drones. Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #143
Many, many books have been written about the assassination of the two Kennedys, Cal33 Jun 2013 #149
I've pretty much decided that Obama is opposite man. eilen Jun 2013 #128
A true Patriot! nradisic Jun 2013 #7
+1000 nt Doremus Jun 2013 #139
You are right. The US has bombed Chinese sovereignty before. Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #10
A whistleblower? adicortez Jun 2013 #11
He is a whistle blower in the sense that he has exposed a secret program that is SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #12
That presupposes t hat christx30 Jun 2013 #17
I think some of the more independent Congressional members would be interested. SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #78
Wyden warned but had to be very vague in order to avoid JDPriestly Jun 2013 #109
I thnk it would be a fine line if they revealed classified information during one minute SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #117
But the more independent christx30 Jun 2013 #120
There seems to be some controversy in reference to the point I excerpted. Apparently SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #122
In which case, who would you trust? christx30 Jun 2013 #126
I'm not necessarily saying what he did was wrong. But, becasue he did not go through the SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #130
I still wouldn't trust a member of congress christx30 Jun 2013 #144
Unfortunately, he only had two choices to gain whistle blower status. Either inform SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #145
Sadly, I agree. christx30 Jun 2013 #146
By law, NSA's intelligence gathering is limited to foreign communications Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #115
I agree, and I've made that argument in other threads. SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #116
Cool Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #123
Unconstitutional = ILLEGAL Malik Agar Jun 2013 #13
The FISA courts are not a phony court they are a compromise designed to cstanleytech Jun 2013 #25
I don't trust this SCOTUS with its conservative majority to do anything right. totodeinhere Jun 2013 #31
Big leap there that you did cstanleytech Jun 2013 #34
Google the phrase "fisa court rubber stamp" and you will get better than 23,000 hits. n/t totodeinhere Jun 2013 #43
I could also google the phrase "cute kitten" and get 68,500,000 results. nt cstanleytech Jun 2013 #44
You asked for a link and I suggested that you Google that phrase and totodeinhere Jun 2013 #45
Google "Obama Born In Kenya," you'll get lots of links too emulatorloo Jun 2013 #52
"Quantity of Google hits does not equal quality or truthfulness of information." Bingo!! cstanleytech Jun 2013 #77
FISA requests rarely if ever denied. Rubberstamped. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #97
No one knows and that's the problem. JoeyT Jun 2013 #85
Oh I agree they could be a tad more open on basic info like cstanleytech Jun 2013 #87
Not really. JoeyT Jun 2013 #88
Except Obama stated that the feds arent listening in to everyones phonecalls but cstanleytech Jun 2013 #90
The program theoretically would allow the executive to peruse JDPriestly Jun 2013 #111
Thats partly why the FISA courts exists JD. cstanleytech Jun 2013 #125
The FISA courts were devised before we developed the JDPriestly Jun 2013 #110
Warrants and "court approval" from a secret FISA rubber-stamp court n/t brentspeak Jun 2013 #14
Yes, he's a whistleblower PSPS Jun 2013 #21
AKA RC Jun 2013 #124
Not true - here's a list of whistleblowers bananas Jun 2013 #24
good catch! (nt) Babel_17 Jun 2013 #58
US Federal Government Whistleblower Awareness Poster bananas Jun 2013 #27
The acts to enable this are unconstitutional. joshcryer Jun 2013 #49
And that's another crime pscot Jun 2013 #51
Once upon a time Jim Crow laws were legal in this country Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #107
He worked at Booz Allen? I wonder who's funding his crisis of conscience? pnwmom Jun 2013 #15
Yes, he was working at an NSA contractor. totodeinhere Jun 2013 #22
correct, only someone inside would have ever found out nt markiv Jun 2013 #32
He only worked for 3 months and ends up in Hong Kong? Something kiranon Jun 2013 #95
He worked there for less than three months, too. MADem Jun 2013 #113
No hero. mfcorey1 Jun 2013 #16
Really? EC Jun 2013 #18
HERE! HERE! d06204 Jun 2013 #20
One thing I know, he leaked confidential classified information to the news media. That is a crime still_one Jun 2013 #59
You really don't seem to realize there is no difference between govt. and corps. Psephos Jun 2013 #55
That's where you're wrong. EC Jun 2013 #64
I mean you no ill, but you're naive. Neither has oversight. And they have partnered up. Psephos Jun 2013 #70
I'll bet the Chinese will be more than happy to give him a home. MADem Jun 2013 #19
He might be safer in China. And that's a sad commentary on our totodeinhere Jun 2013 #23
Or, totodeinhere he decided to sell out everything he knows to China; cstanleytech Jun 2013 #28
The truth will eventually come out. For now I am giving him the benefit of the doubt totodeinhere Jun 2013 #30
Oh so am I as its to early to tell but if he does you can bet he will be moving up to cstanleytech Jun 2013 #36
Well, you're in the increasing minority, it would seem. MADem Jun 2013 #93
Just because a former CIA officer is saying that doesn't put me in the minority. totodeinhere Jun 2013 #105
I just hope he's not been given a massive payday by those guys. MADem Jun 2013 #50
that's what usually happens... nebenaube Jun 2013 #68
Maybe not....he could be depressed, and thinking that he's on a dramatic personal journey MADem Jun 2013 #71
Wow! What drama! asjr Jun 2013 #26
Paul Krugman: Government Tilting Towards ‘Authoritarian Surveillance’ State totodeinhere Jun 2013 #29
I also agree with Krugman, and I don't understand why anyone would trust Rogers on this issue... deurbano Jun 2013 #46
There is no reason to trust Rogers and Feinstein. Dawson Leery Jun 2013 #135
Let me repost here what I posted elsewhere. timdog44 Jun 2013 #33
Many of these IT companies have federal divisions...nothing to see here HipChick Jun 2013 #38
I thought this to relevant timdog44 Jun 2013 #40
So he was working for the Chinese? HipChick Jun 2013 #41
No. It's Wikipedia bullshit that's already been deleted. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #80
He cited Bradley John2 Jun 2013 #35
And to this timdog44 Jun 2013 #37
"The U.S. needs to remove nuclear weapons from Turkey and all their allies" cstanleytech Jun 2013 #42
+!000 summer-hazz Jun 2013 #65
. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #39
From the article ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #47
So, he flees to China? Cha Jun 2013 #56
Did he? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #61
And, apparently he "stuffs pillows against the door.." Cha Jun 2013 #62
That won't help him. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #66
Sorry, Major.. what Cha Jun 2013 #73
The guy in Boise did the same kind of thing. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #75
Thanks! Sorry, I didn't Cha Jun 2013 #76
Actually reading the article would help you understand DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #81
Nuclear Weapons . . FairWinds Jun 2013 #48
I would be proud of that student too ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #60
We should be putting up statues of this guy; he's a true hero and patriot CanonRay Jun 2013 #53
He works for my company, Booz Allen lanlady Jun 2013 #54
I sure have mixed feelings on what this man has done. You know when you work southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #57
bump..nt Jesus Malverde Jun 2013 #63
HERO. This man has bravery and balls. n/t NoodleyAppendage Jun 2013 #67
How is he a hero? Most of us not living under rocks have known for years cstanleytech Jun 2013 #89
Daniel Ellsberg puts it better than most (VIDEO) usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #100
Great video. n/t Psephos Jun 2013 #104
Its nearly 1:40 am here so am tired to forgive me but I dont see what that video does to prove cstanleytech Jun 2013 #106
Because unlike you he has put is life and livelihood on the line. NoodleyAppendage Jun 2013 #142
Obama or Snowden... ChiTownChavista Jun 2013 #69
Why does it have to be a choice between Snowden and Obama? Psephos Jun 2013 #72
Exposing himself may help keep him alive. Kablooie Jun 2013 #74
Oh, look....one more ingredient for the hopper.... MADem Jun 2013 #92
Lee Harvey Oswald saw home again. roamer65 Jun 2013 #94
So run to a Chinese protectorate where monitoring is even worse. roamer65 Jun 2013 #98
K/R n/t Autumn Jun 2013 #101
Good Bye and Good Riddance. SoapBox Jun 2013 #102
obviously the center-left leaning Guardian is not owned by Murdoch Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #103
Don't let the back door smack ya eissa Jun 2013 #132
He is seeking asylum and already is getting Justice Department scrutiny alp227 Jun 2013 #108
Regina Ip urges Snowden to leave (Pro-Beijing senior lawmaker in Hong Kong) MADem Jun 2013 #112
Snowden meet Manning ....HEROs ElsewheresDaughter Jun 2013 #114
What is he implying? That the big, evil black Muslim from Kenya is going to kill him? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #119
It seems on a random unscientific poll.....the public is siding with..... LovingA2andMI Jun 2013 #121
Snowden and Manning are heroes Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #127
It appears that some of those who served our country in Iraq and Afghanistan lovuian Jun 2013 #137
That's just Mr. ex KGB trying to stick it to the US. Beacool Jun 2013 #147
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