He is already suffering. (Reply #118) - Democratic Underground

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Mon Jun 10, 2013, 09:02 AM

dotymed (5,610 posts)

118. He is already suffering.

He can't come home, he will be hunted for the rest of his (probably short) life. Some gave all....for the truth, he was one.
He is an American hero, much more so than most soldiers except maybe Bradley Manning.

If the truth really shall set you free, I pray that under a different administration, he will be celebrated, before they get him with a drone.

This is what America has come to.

Are we ready to take to the streets yet? If not we may as well lie down.

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149 replies	Author	Time	Post
NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden: 'I do not expect to see home again' [View all]	totodeinhere	Jun 2013	OP
@AP: BREAKING: Newspaper identifies source of U.S. surveillance programs as intelligence agency cont	Hissyspit	Jun 2013	#1
What a brave man	rastaone	Jun 2013	#2
Holy SH#T..... "The Federation of Secret Law" How can we know that what they are doing	midnight	Jun 2013	#3
And how do we gather information if it is not	timdog44	Jun 2013	#79
Getting the permission is the thing that makes this secret more legit in my mind...	midnight	Jun 2013	#82
Again, that	timdog44	Jun 2013	#83
Permission is granted by a secret court (FISA). Be paranoid volks.	xtraxritical	Jun 2013	#129
+1000000 Daniel Ellsberg was interviewed tonight,	woo me with science	Jun 2013	#84
He is already suffering.	dotymed	Jun 2013	#118
He's not brave	gholtron	Jun 2013	#131
You are ripe for Fascist indoctrination	LiberalLovinLug	Jun 2013	#134
You are wrong.	gholtron	Jun 2013	#136
What rights?	LiberalLovinLug	Jun 2013	#138
Fear talking	gholtron	Jun 2013	#140
The only thing we have to fear is fear itself	LiberalLovinLug	Jun 2013	#141
I wouldn't call him brave.	Beacool	Jun 2013	#148
The naked man in the tree	warrprayer	Jun 2013	#4
"That's just Yossarian." nm	rhett o rick	Jun 2013	#8
;) n/t	warrprayer	Jun 2013	#9
I need to re-read that book. nt	awoke_in_2003	Jun 2013	#96
kick	think	Jun 2013	#5
President Obama on whistleblowers in 2008	totodeinhere	Jun 2013	#6
There is a difference between Candidate Obama who said things he believed. . .	Nanjing to Seoul	Jun 2013	#86
Yep, and it's particularly dangerous when you have	juajen	Jun 2013	#91
Wasn't she going to be outed as a lesbian?	marshall	Jun 2013	#99
If President Obama will not do what is right out of fear for his life then we might as well	totodeinhere	Jun 2013	#133
people's army is strong. government's army has drones.	Nanjing to Seoul	Jun 2013	#143
Many, many books have been written about the assassination of the two Kennedys,	Cal33	Jun 2013	#149
I've pretty much decided that Obama is opposite man.	eilen	Jun 2013	#128
A true Patriot!	nradisic	Jun 2013	#7
+1000 nt	Doremus	Jun 2013	#139
You are right. The US has bombed Chinese sovereignty before.	Arctic Dave	Jun 2013	#10
A whistleblower?	adicortez	Jun 2013	#11
He is a whistle blower in the sense that he has exposed a secret program that is	SlimJimmy	Jun 2013	#12
That presupposes t hat	christx30	Jun 2013	#17
I think some of the more independent Congressional members would be interested.	SlimJimmy	Jun 2013	#78
Wyden warned but had to be very vague in order to avoid	JDPriestly	Jun 2013	#109
I thnk it would be a fine line if they revealed classified information during one minute	SlimJimmy	Jun 2013	#117
But the more independent	christx30	Jun 2013	#120
There seems to be some controversy in reference to the point I excerpted. Apparently	SlimJimmy	Jun 2013	#122
In which case, who would you trust?	christx30	Jun 2013	#126
I'm not necessarily saying what he did was wrong. But, becasue he did not go through the	SlimJimmy	Jun 2013	#130
I still wouldn't trust a member of congress	christx30	Jun 2013	#144
Unfortunately, he only had two choices to gain whistle blower status. Either inform	SlimJimmy	Jun 2013	#145
Sadly, I agree.	christx30	Jun 2013	#146
By law, NSA's intelligence gathering is limited to foreign communications	Katashi_itto	Jun 2013	#115
I agree, and I've made that argument in other threads.	SlimJimmy	Jun 2013	#116
Cool	Katashi_itto	Jun 2013	#123
Unconstitutional = ILLEGAL	Malik Agar	Jun 2013	#13
The FISA courts are not a phony court they are a compromise designed to	cstanleytech	Jun 2013	#25
I don't trust this SCOTUS with its conservative majority to do anything right.	totodeinhere	Jun 2013	#31
Big leap there that you did	cstanleytech	Jun 2013	#34
Google the phrase "fisa court rubber stamp" and you will get better than 23,000 hits. n/t	totodeinhere	Jun 2013	#43
I could also google the phrase "cute kitten" and get 68,500,000 results. nt	cstanleytech	Jun 2013	#44
You asked for a link and I suggested that you Google that phrase and	totodeinhere	Jun 2013	#45
Google "Obama Born In Kenya," you'll get lots of links too	emulatorloo	Jun 2013	#52
"Quantity of Google hits does not equal quality or truthfulness of information." Bingo!!	cstanleytech	Jun 2013	#77
FISA requests rarely if ever denied. Rubberstamped.	GoneFishin	Jun 2013	#97
No one knows and that's the problem.	JoeyT	Jun 2013	#85
Oh I agree they could be a tad more open on basic info like	cstanleytech	Jun 2013	#87
Not really.	JoeyT	Jun 2013	#88
Except Obama stated that the feds arent listening in to everyones phonecalls but	cstanleytech	Jun 2013	#90
The program theoretically would allow the executive to peruse	JDPriestly	Jun 2013	#111
Thats partly why the FISA courts exists JD.	cstanleytech	Jun 2013	#125
The FISA courts were devised before we developed the	JDPriestly	Jun 2013	#110
Warrants and "court approval" from a secret FISA rubber-stamp court n/t	brentspeak	Jun 2013	#14
Yes, he's a whistleblower	PSPS	Jun 2013	#21
AKA	RC	Jun 2013	#124
Not true - here's a list of whistleblowers	bananas	Jun 2013	#24
good catch! (nt)	Babel_17	Jun 2013	#58
US Federal Government Whistleblower Awareness Poster	bananas	Jun 2013	#27
The acts to enable this are unconstitutional.	joshcryer	Jun 2013	#49
And that's another crime	pscot	Jun 2013	#51
Once upon a time Jim Crow laws were legal in this country	Le Taz Hot	Jun 2013	#107
He worked at Booz Allen? I wonder who's funding his crisis of conscience?	pnwmom	Jun 2013	#15
Yes, he was working at an NSA contractor.	totodeinhere	Jun 2013	#22
correct, only someone inside would have ever found out nt	markiv	Jun 2013	#32
He only worked for 3 months and ends up in Hong Kong? Something	kiranon	Jun 2013	#95
He worked there for less than three months, too.	MADem	Jun 2013	#113
No hero.	mfcorey1	Jun 2013	#16
Really?	EC	Jun 2013	#18
HERE! HERE!	d06204	Jun 2013	#20
One thing I know, he leaked confidential classified information to the news media. That is a crime	still_one	Jun 2013	#59
You really don't seem to realize there is no difference between govt. and corps.	Psephos	Jun 2013	#55
That's where you're wrong.	EC	Jun 2013	#64
I mean you no ill, but you're naive. Neither has oversight. And they have partnered up.	Psephos	Jun 2013	#70
I'll bet the Chinese will be more than happy to give him a home.	MADem	Jun 2013	#19
He might be safer in China. And that's a sad commentary on our	totodeinhere	Jun 2013	#23
Or, totodeinhere he decided to sell out everything he knows to China;	cstanleytech	Jun 2013	#28
The truth will eventually come out. For now I am giving him the benefit of the doubt	totodeinhere	Jun 2013	#30
Oh so am I as its to early to tell but if he does you can bet he will be moving up to	cstanleytech	Jun 2013	#36
Well, you're in the increasing minority, it would seem.	MADem	Jun 2013	#93
Just because a former CIA officer is saying that doesn't put me in the minority.	totodeinhere	Jun 2013	#105
I just hope he's not been given a massive payday by those guys.	MADem	Jun 2013	#50
that's what usually happens...	nebenaube	Jun 2013	#68
Maybe not....he could be depressed, and thinking that he's on a dramatic personal journey	MADem	Jun 2013	#71
Wow! What drama!	asjr	Jun 2013	#26
Paul Krugman: Government Tilting Towards ‘Authoritarian Surveillance’ State	totodeinhere	Jun 2013	#29
I also agree with Krugman, and I don't understand why anyone would trust Rogers on this issue...	deurbano	Jun 2013	#46
There is no reason to trust Rogers and Feinstein.	Dawson Leery	Jun 2013	#135
Let me repost here what I posted elsewhere.	timdog44	Jun 2013	#33
Many of these IT companies have federal divisions...nothing to see here	HipChick	Jun 2013	#38
I thought this to relevant	timdog44	Jun 2013	#40
So he was working for the Chinese?	HipChick	Jun 2013	#41
No. It's Wikipedia bullshit that's already been deleted.	DisgustipatedinCA	Jun 2013	#80
He cited Bradley	John2	Jun 2013	#35
And to this	timdog44	Jun 2013	#37
"The U.S. needs to remove nuclear weapons from Turkey and all their allies"	cstanleytech	Jun 2013	#42
+!000	summer-hazz	Jun 2013	#65
.	blkmusclmachine	Jun 2013	#39
From the article ...	1StrongBlackMan	Jun 2013	#47
So, he flees to China?	Cha	Jun 2013	#56
Did he? ...	1StrongBlackMan	Jun 2013	#61
And, apparently he "stuffs pillows against the door.."	Cha	Jun 2013	#62
That won't help him.	Major Hogwash	Jun 2013	#66
Sorry, Major.. what	Cha	Jun 2013	#73
The guy in Boise did the same kind of thing.	Major Hogwash	Jun 2013	#75
Thanks! Sorry, I didn't	Cha	Jun 2013	#76
Actually reading the article would help you understand	DisgustipatedinCA	Jun 2013	#81
Nuclear Weapons . .	FairWinds	Jun 2013	#48
I would be proud of that student too ...	1StrongBlackMan	Jun 2013	#60
We should be putting up statues of this guy; he's a true hero and patriot	CanonRay	Jun 2013	#53
He works for my company, Booz Allen	lanlady	Jun 2013	#54
I sure have mixed feelings on what this man has done. You know when you work	southernyankeebelle	Jun 2013	#57
bump..nt	Jesus Malverde	Jun 2013	#63
HERO. This man has bravery and balls. n/t	NoodleyAppendage	Jun 2013	#67
How is he a hero? Most of us not living under rocks have known for years	cstanleytech	Jun 2013	#89
Daniel Ellsberg puts it better than most (VIDEO)	usGovOwesUs3Trillion	Jun 2013	#100
Great video. n/t	Psephos	Jun 2013	#104
Its nearly 1:40 am here so am tired to forgive me but I dont see what that video does to prove	cstanleytech	Jun 2013	#106
Because unlike you he has put is life and livelihood on the line.	NoodleyAppendage	Jun 2013	#142
Obama or Snowden...	ChiTownChavista	Jun 2013	#69
Why does it have to be a choice between Snowden and Obama?	Psephos	Jun 2013	#72
Exposing himself may help keep him alive.	Kablooie	Jun 2013	#74
Oh, look....one more ingredient for the hopper....	MADem	Jun 2013	#92
Lee Harvey Oswald saw home again.	roamer65	Jun 2013	#94
So run to a Chinese protectorate where monitoring is even worse.	roamer65	Jun 2013	#98
K/R n/t	Autumn	Jun 2013	#101
Good Bye and Good Riddance.	SoapBox	Jun 2013	#102
obviously the center-left leaning Guardian is not owned by Murdoch	Douglas Carpenter	Jun 2013	#103
Don't let the back door smack ya	eissa	Jun 2013	#132
He is seeking asylum and already is getting Justice Department scrutiny	alp227	Jun 2013	#108
Regina Ip urges Snowden to leave (Pro-Beijing senior lawmaker in Hong Kong)	MADem	Jun 2013	#112
Snowden meet Manning ....HEROs	ElsewheresDaughter	Jun 2013	#114
What is he implying? That the big, evil black Muslim from Kenya is going to kill him?	Liberal_Stalwart71	Jun 2013	#119
It seems on a random unscientific poll.....the public is siding with.....	LovingA2andMI	Jun 2013	#121
Snowden and Manning are heroes	Harmony Blue	Jun 2013	#127
It appears that some of those who served our country in Iraq and Afghanistan	lovuian	Jun 2013	#137
That's just Mr. ex KGB trying to stick it to the US.	Beacool	Jun 2013	#147

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