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totodeinhere

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6. President Obama on whistleblowers in 2008
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 03:08 PM
Jun 2013
http://change.gov/agenda/ethics_agenda/

Often the best source of information about waste, fraud, and abuse in government is an existing government employee committed to public integrity and willing to speak out. Such acts of courage and patriotism, which can sometimes save lives and often save taxpayer dollars, should be encouraged rather than stifled as they have been during the Bush administration. We need to empower federal employees as watchdogs of wrongdoing and partners in performance. will strengthen whistleblower laws to protect federal workers who expose waste, fraud, and abuse of authority in government.
@AP: BREAKING: Newspaper identifies source of U.S. surveillance programs as intelligence agency cont Hissyspit Jun 2013 #1
What a brave man rastaone Jun 2013 #2
Holy SH#T..... "The Federation of Secret Law" How can we know that what they are doing midnight Jun 2013 #3
And how do we gather information if it is not timdog44 Jun 2013 #79
Getting the permission is the thing that makes this secret more legit in my mind... midnight Jun 2013 #82
Again, that timdog44 Jun 2013 #83
Permission is granted by a secret court (FISA). Be paranoid volks. xtraxritical Jun 2013 #129
+1000000 Daniel Ellsberg was interviewed tonight, woo me with science Jun 2013 #84
He is already suffering. dotymed Jun 2013 #118
He's not brave gholtron Jun 2013 #131
You are ripe for Fascist indoctrination LiberalLovinLug Jun 2013 #134
You are wrong. gholtron Jun 2013 #136
What rights? LiberalLovinLug Jun 2013 #138
Fear talking gholtron Jun 2013 #140
The only thing we have to fear is fear itself LiberalLovinLug Jun 2013 #141
I wouldn't call him brave. Beacool Jun 2013 #148
The naked man in the tree warrprayer Jun 2013 #4
"That's just Yossarian." nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #8
;) n/t warrprayer Jun 2013 #9
I need to re-read that book. nt awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #96
kick think Jun 2013 #5
President Obama on whistleblowers in 2008 totodeinhere Jun 2013 #6
There is a difference between Candidate Obama who said things he believed. . . Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #86
Yep, and it's particularly dangerous when you have juajen Jun 2013 #91
Wasn't she going to be outed as a lesbian? marshall Jun 2013 #99
If President Obama will not do what is right out of fear for his life then we might as well totodeinhere Jun 2013 #133
people's army is strong. government's army has drones. Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #143
Many, many books have been written about the assassination of the two Kennedys, Cal33 Jun 2013 #149
I've pretty much decided that Obama is opposite man. eilen Jun 2013 #128
A true Patriot! nradisic Jun 2013 #7
+1000 nt Doremus Jun 2013 #139
You are right. The US has bombed Chinese sovereignty before. Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #10
A whistleblower? adicortez Jun 2013 #11
He is a whistle blower in the sense that he has exposed a secret program that is SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #12
That presupposes t hat christx30 Jun 2013 #17
I think some of the more independent Congressional members would be interested. SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #78
Wyden warned but had to be very vague in order to avoid JDPriestly Jun 2013 #109
I thnk it would be a fine line if they revealed classified information during one minute SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #117
But the more independent christx30 Jun 2013 #120
There seems to be some controversy in reference to the point I excerpted. Apparently SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #122
In which case, who would you trust? christx30 Jun 2013 #126
I'm not necessarily saying what he did was wrong. But, becasue he did not go through the SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #130
I still wouldn't trust a member of congress christx30 Jun 2013 #144
Unfortunately, he only had two choices to gain whistle blower status. Either inform SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #145
Sadly, I agree. christx30 Jun 2013 #146
By law, NSA's intelligence gathering is limited to foreign communications Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #115
I agree, and I've made that argument in other threads. SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #116
Cool Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #123
Unconstitutional = ILLEGAL Malik Agar Jun 2013 #13
The FISA courts are not a phony court they are a compromise designed to cstanleytech Jun 2013 #25
I don't trust this SCOTUS with its conservative majority to do anything right. totodeinhere Jun 2013 #31
Big leap there that you did cstanleytech Jun 2013 #34
Google the phrase "fisa court rubber stamp" and you will get better than 23,000 hits. n/t totodeinhere Jun 2013 #43
I could also google the phrase "cute kitten" and get 68,500,000 results. nt cstanleytech Jun 2013 #44
You asked for a link and I suggested that you Google that phrase and totodeinhere Jun 2013 #45
Google "Obama Born In Kenya," you'll get lots of links too emulatorloo Jun 2013 #52
"Quantity of Google hits does not equal quality or truthfulness of information." Bingo!! cstanleytech Jun 2013 #77
FISA requests rarely if ever denied. Rubberstamped. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #97
No one knows and that's the problem. JoeyT Jun 2013 #85
Oh I agree they could be a tad more open on basic info like cstanleytech Jun 2013 #87
Not really. JoeyT Jun 2013 #88
Except Obama stated that the feds arent listening in to everyones phonecalls but cstanleytech Jun 2013 #90
The program theoretically would allow the executive to peruse JDPriestly Jun 2013 #111
Thats partly why the FISA courts exists JD. cstanleytech Jun 2013 #125
The FISA courts were devised before we developed the JDPriestly Jun 2013 #110
Warrants and "court approval" from a secret FISA rubber-stamp court n/t brentspeak Jun 2013 #14
Yes, he's a whistleblower PSPS Jun 2013 #21
AKA RC Jun 2013 #124
Not true - here's a list of whistleblowers bananas Jun 2013 #24
good catch! (nt) Babel_17 Jun 2013 #58
US Federal Government Whistleblower Awareness Poster bananas Jun 2013 #27
The acts to enable this are unconstitutional. joshcryer Jun 2013 #49
And that's another crime pscot Jun 2013 #51
Once upon a time Jim Crow laws were legal in this country Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #107
He worked at Booz Allen? I wonder who's funding his crisis of conscience? pnwmom Jun 2013 #15
Yes, he was working at an NSA contractor. totodeinhere Jun 2013 #22
correct, only someone inside would have ever found out nt markiv Jun 2013 #32
He only worked for 3 months and ends up in Hong Kong? Something kiranon Jun 2013 #95
He worked there for less than three months, too. MADem Jun 2013 #113
No hero. mfcorey1 Jun 2013 #16
Really? EC Jun 2013 #18
HERE! HERE! d06204 Jun 2013 #20
One thing I know, he leaked confidential classified information to the news media. That is a crime still_one Jun 2013 #59
You really don't seem to realize there is no difference between govt. and corps. Psephos Jun 2013 #55
That's where you're wrong. EC Jun 2013 #64
I mean you no ill, but you're naive. Neither has oversight. And they have partnered up. Psephos Jun 2013 #70
I'll bet the Chinese will be more than happy to give him a home. MADem Jun 2013 #19
He might be safer in China. And that's a sad commentary on our totodeinhere Jun 2013 #23
Or, totodeinhere he decided to sell out everything he knows to China; cstanleytech Jun 2013 #28
The truth will eventually come out. For now I am giving him the benefit of the doubt totodeinhere Jun 2013 #30
Oh so am I as its to early to tell but if he does you can bet he will be moving up to cstanleytech Jun 2013 #36
Well, you're in the increasing minority, it would seem. MADem Jun 2013 #93
Just because a former CIA officer is saying that doesn't put me in the minority. totodeinhere Jun 2013 #105
I just hope he's not been given a massive payday by those guys. MADem Jun 2013 #50
that's what usually happens... nebenaube Jun 2013 #68
Maybe not....he could be depressed, and thinking that he's on a dramatic personal journey MADem Jun 2013 #71
Wow! What drama! asjr Jun 2013 #26
Paul Krugman: Government Tilting Towards ‘Authoritarian Surveillance’ State totodeinhere Jun 2013 #29
I also agree with Krugman, and I don't understand why anyone would trust Rogers on this issue... deurbano Jun 2013 #46
There is no reason to trust Rogers and Feinstein. Dawson Leery Jun 2013 #135
Let me repost here what I posted elsewhere. timdog44 Jun 2013 #33
Many of these IT companies have federal divisions...nothing to see here HipChick Jun 2013 #38
I thought this to relevant timdog44 Jun 2013 #40
So he was working for the Chinese? HipChick Jun 2013 #41
No. It's Wikipedia bullshit that's already been deleted. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #80
He cited Bradley John2 Jun 2013 #35
And to this timdog44 Jun 2013 #37
"The U.S. needs to remove nuclear weapons from Turkey and all their allies" cstanleytech Jun 2013 #42
+!000 summer-hazz Jun 2013 #65
. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #39
From the article ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #47
So, he flees to China? Cha Jun 2013 #56
Did he? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #61
And, apparently he "stuffs pillows against the door.." Cha Jun 2013 #62
That won't help him. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #66
Sorry, Major.. what Cha Jun 2013 #73
The guy in Boise did the same kind of thing. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #75
Thanks! Sorry, I didn't Cha Jun 2013 #76
Actually reading the article would help you understand DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #81
Nuclear Weapons . . FairWinds Jun 2013 #48
I would be proud of that student too ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #60
We should be putting up statues of this guy; he's a true hero and patriot CanonRay Jun 2013 #53
He works for my company, Booz Allen lanlady Jun 2013 #54
I sure have mixed feelings on what this man has done. You know when you work southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #57
bump..nt Jesus Malverde Jun 2013 #63
HERO. This man has bravery and balls. n/t NoodleyAppendage Jun 2013 #67
How is he a hero? Most of us not living under rocks have known for years cstanleytech Jun 2013 #89
Daniel Ellsberg puts it better than most (VIDEO) usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #100
Great video. n/t Psephos Jun 2013 #104
Its nearly 1:40 am here so am tired to forgive me but I dont see what that video does to prove cstanleytech Jun 2013 #106
Because unlike you he has put is life and livelihood on the line. NoodleyAppendage Jun 2013 #142
Obama or Snowden... ChiTownChavista Jun 2013 #69
Why does it have to be a choice between Snowden and Obama? Psephos Jun 2013 #72
Exposing himself may help keep him alive. Kablooie Jun 2013 #74
Oh, look....one more ingredient for the hopper.... MADem Jun 2013 #92
Lee Harvey Oswald saw home again. roamer65 Jun 2013 #94
So run to a Chinese protectorate where monitoring is even worse. roamer65 Jun 2013 #98
K/R n/t Autumn Jun 2013 #101
Good Bye and Good Riddance. SoapBox Jun 2013 #102
obviously the center-left leaning Guardian is not owned by Murdoch Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #103
Don't let the back door smack ya eissa Jun 2013 #132
He is seeking asylum and already is getting Justice Department scrutiny alp227 Jun 2013 #108
Regina Ip urges Snowden to leave (Pro-Beijing senior lawmaker in Hong Kong) MADem Jun 2013 #112
Snowden meet Manning ....HEROs ElsewheresDaughter Jun 2013 #114
What is he implying? That the big, evil black Muslim from Kenya is going to kill him? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #119
It seems on a random unscientific poll.....the public is siding with..... LovingA2andMI Jun 2013 #121
Snowden and Manning are heroes Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #127
It appears that some of those who served our country in Iraq and Afghanistan lovuian Jun 2013 #137
That's just Mr. ex KGB trying to stick it to the US. Beacool Jun 2013 #147
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