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dutch777

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6. Hamas thought it could be the spark, and it was to a degree, but not as far or way it hoped.
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 07:04 PM
Nov 2023

Iran knows if the US and Israel, with tacit approval of Saudis, Egyptians and others, gets in a full on shooting war with them, Iran will be back in the dark ages with its ports, power plants and a lot of other key infrastructure shattered. And they have no substantive resources to rebuild, they can barely maintain and run what they have. They do seem to still be able to get their proxies to snipe at US forces and bases in Iraq and Syria. I suppose oil flow is a concern but can't help thinking that regime change in Iran is getting to be an ever increasing temptation to some despite short term pain. Sad to say, but I bet if Biden dropped the hammer on Iran and said "enough!", his re-election might be assured. I know he is a cooler head and not that kind of politician. Suspect if the same opportunity had presented itself with Trump in same situation, he would go for it.

the true axis of evil lapfog_1 Nov 2023 #1
Interesting. Maybe Iran is not willing to gamble their leadership's lives on such a declaration. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2023 #2
So far most aren't. Perhaps Hamas made a significant blunder with their October 7 attack? JohnSJ Nov 2023 #3
Hamas thought it could be the spark, and it was to a degree, but not as far or way it hoped. dutch777 Nov 2023 #6
A few targeted hits on Iran's Revolutionary Guard,,,,and let the people of Iran take care of the rest. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2023 #7
I wish that were true, but don't think Iranians have that in them. We can hurt the IRG but clergy has huge hold... dutch777 Nov 2023 #8
I'd target these folks as well. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2023 #9
Reinstalling the Shah is another option Polybius Nov 2023 #15
Iran has a single point of failure in their oil exporting EX500rider Nov 2023 #12
Bet the Biden Administration, possibly via the State Dept/Blinken, had something to do with Iran's decision. Freethinker65 Nov 2023 #4
Emailed pics of targets that the US has collected without Iranian air defenses being alerted Kennah Nov 2023 #10
US Navy ships, air craft carriers, and subs in the area can be very persuasive IronLionZion Nov 2023 #19
I think, not positive, Sal_NV Nov 2023 #20
Probably, and their fleet is old IronLionZion Nov 2023 #22
Well that's good news. Hezbollah seems to be holding off as well. Lonestarblue Nov 2023 #5
But hey, Iran still flies the F-14 Kennah Nov 2023 #11
OwlKitty is a better pilot than Maverick ArkansasDemocrat1 Nov 2023 #16
They've already entered.... Maxheader Nov 2023 #13
Oh Oh... that can't be good!!!.... William Gustafson Nov 2023 #14
I think that after watching the IDF in action, along with 2 US Carrier Strike Groups, Sal_NV Nov 2023 #17
Iran seems to enjoy poking other countries through their proxies IronLionZion Nov 2023 #18
Iran does not have the support of most of the population JI7 Nov 2023 #21
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