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jaxexpat

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41. Interesting aside. I was a farmer in W. Ky during the Reagan years.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 05:20 PM
Apr 2020

In the 80s, American grain (soybeans and corn) shipped to China had an allowable foreign matter factor. I think it was 6% but I really forget. At the US ports, shippers would calculate the actual amount in their shipment and if it was below the allowance they simply added tons of dirt to the shipment. The Chinese byers complained saying they didn't so much mind paying for the additional tonnage but that they would prefer it if the Americans would put it in containers and save them the grain cleaning operation.
At issue was that the standards had been written before the widespread use of modern harvesting machines (combines) and common grain handling techniques employed by practically every farmer/producer. The American farmer's product was cleaner than the standard because of these modern methods. But the use/misuse of that standard by shippers prevented American farmers from realizing a premium price for their produce that should have been due them because of its superior quality. The shippers wanted maximum profit. It's then, to my mind, a more complex issue than the tritely convenient rhyme, "the solution to pollution is dilution" is able to conscribe.
Some say 2 drops of cyanide per 100 gallons of water is actually good for you, right?

Enemy of my enemy my friend Thekaspervote Apr 2020 #1
It's nice to see a bit of good news for a change. Thank you! (nt) scarletwoman Apr 2020 #2
so are we supposed ta love kavanaugh now lol nt msongs Apr 2020 #3
Fat chance. Now I want a beer. I like beer. marble falls Apr 2020 #19
Exactly! mountain grammy Apr 2020 #28
No, but this affirms my personal belief that Roberts is inclined to keep Kavs on a damn short leash, Volaris Apr 2020 #39
Please explain how the chief justice keeps another justice on a short leash killaphill Apr 2020 #51
No. Cha Apr 2020 #48
Just as a question, isn't "treated" waste considered clean? dhol82 Apr 2020 #4
that was my take too stopdiggin Apr 2020 #6
Depends on the level of treatment. In this case, no. From the article... yellowcanine Apr 2020 #11
In the ocean, it made bad things grow lildDemz Apr 2020 #26
"Partially treated" No it is not clean. All sides accept that it still contains pollutants. yellowcanine Apr 2020 #9
I stand corrected. thank you. (nt) stopdiggin Apr 2020 #14
I think the question is what is wrong with the other 3? Renew Deal Apr 2020 #5
Incorrigible fascists. sandensea Apr 2020 #37
Alito's counter argument was bizarre. thesquanderer Apr 2020 #42
So...poisoning the nation not in the nation's best interests not fooled Apr 2020 #7
wooooww. im shocked AllaN01Bear Apr 2020 #8
Not praise from me but qazplm135 Apr 2020 #10
You could say the same thing about the supposedly liberal justices Jose Garcia Apr 2020 #16
not really qazplm135 Apr 2020 #17
Kagen is definitely the least liberal of the four Polybius Apr 2020 #18
But other than stare decisis qazplm135 Apr 2020 #20
well, glory be! BComplex Apr 2020 #12
Mark this win down! bluestarone Apr 2020 #13
Freepers aren't happy with Kavanaugh. They consider him to be a Roberts clone. Kaleva Apr 2020 #15
Well, that's a surprise. dhol82 Apr 2020 #43
I lurk over there sometimes and their opinion of Kavanaugh is low. Kaleva Apr 2020 #52
Wow. Why? Not enough beer pong? dhol82 Apr 2020 #53
Just Wondering... HotRod Deluxe Apr 2020 #21
That was my first thought. tavernier Apr 2020 #27
Conversation with my employer about 15 years ago..... jaxexpat Apr 2020 #22
Fixed mindset is their hallmark. JudyM Apr 2020 #31
I was thinking the same thing. Thats how our drinking water is tested oldsoftie Apr 2020 #34
Interesting aside. I was a farmer in W. Ky during the Reagan years. jaxexpat Apr 2020 #41
Fascinating bit of history. dhol82 Apr 2020 #44
SOMEBODY would probably say it!! oldsoftie Apr 2020 #46
Remember the South Park episode about the water park that went over the Pee limit? jaxexpat Apr 2020 #36
Ha, good analogy! JudyM Apr 2020 #38
I can see why Kavanaugh voted this way Dopers_Greed Apr 2020 #23
Should have been 9-0. Pumping poo into the Pacific is "discharge of a pollutant." Duh. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #24
(remember, we're dealing with Thomas, Alito & Gorsuck here....) lastlib Apr 2020 #40
Not sure that's what was said. dhol82 Apr 2020 #45
Gobsmacked -- but very pleased Hekate Apr 2020 #25
Kavenaugh knows you need water to grow barley. Aristus Apr 2020 #29
They are just throwing the Democrats a bone. When push dugog55 Apr 2020 #30
My thought too; smaller state, small victory, not much national effect. mpcamb Apr 2020 #47
Next Carnival Cruise lines Oppaloopa Apr 2020 #32
This court has become weird and unpredictable Johnyawl Apr 2020 #33
Actually the majority of cases are 7-2 or above. oldsoftie Apr 2020 #35
To me, unpredictable would be the ideal situation Steelrolled Apr 2020 #54
Well, that's twice Kavanaugh has surprised me this week. Orrex Apr 2020 #49
Who would have thought of Kavanaugh coming through? question everything Apr 2020 #50
I didn't know you could think for yourself in the modern supreme court. Steelrolled Apr 2020 #55
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