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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
19. Vox - The "good guy with a gun" myth is just that.
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 02:03 PM
Sep 2019

Last edited Mon Sep 2, 2019, 05:01 PM - Edit history (1)

The problem with laws promoting the proliferation of guns is that on a bad day any good guy with a gun can become a bad guy with a guy. This is why gun ownership is tied to higher incidence of domestic homicides. I doubt that husbands were purchasing guns in the first place on the off chance that they planned to shoot their wives.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/6/16612014/sutherland-springs-shooting-good-guy-gun

It could have been worse, but it wasn’t — thanks to “a good guy with a gun.” That’s what several conservative media outlets, from Breitbart to Fox News to the Blaze, are suggesting following the mass shooting at a Sutherland Springs, Texas, church on Sunday.

According to this narrative, an unnamed armed neighbor saved “countless lives” with his bravery after he intervened with his own weapon at the church shooting, pursuing the gunman who killed at least 26 people in Texas. The gunman was reportedly shot before he shot himself, Wilson County Sheriff Joe Tackitt told CNN.

The reports go back to an idea perpetuated by the National Rifle Association (NRA) for years: As the NRA’s Wayne LaPierre put it following the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, in 2012, “The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun.” Basically, if more people are armed, they can stop violence before it gets bad or prevent it altogether.

If Texas is an example of this concept in action, though, it sure doesn’t seem to work. Before another armed person intervened against the Sutherland Springs gunman, he had already killed at least 26 people and injured approximately 20 others. He managed to shoot more than 40 people before “a good guy with a gun” reportedly helped stop him.
It will be a mixed bag at best, and far worse probably bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #1
We need 10 or 20 million people to pledge never to set sinkingfeeling Sep 2019 #2
If 20 million pledge what you say, it will wake up Texans once and for all. Stuart G Sep 2019 #3
Hours After Mass Shooting, Texas Lawmaker Rejects Any Form of Gun Control, Calls for Prayer TomCADem Sep 2019 #4
A couple thoughts, and a question. blugbox Sep 2019 #12
be careful Skittles Sep 2019 #7
Never had a desire and even more now. Evolve Dammit Sep 2019 #10
I sure as hell am not, and I was born and raised in Texas. Aristus Sep 2019 #18
I've been in a lot of states Skittles Sep 2019 #20
+1 Done w/ Dixie unless big changes for the better, sorry to say appalachiablue Sep 2019 #40
Molly Ivins always said the Texas Lege was the dumbest and worst cp Sep 2019 #5
Texas takes steps towards the future.... Sancho Sep 2019 #6
Does Anyone Think That HAVING Laws Against Carrying ... PBC_Democrat Sep 2019 #8
it is one sick, SICK culture Skittles Sep 2019 #14
Difference might be private funding versus public funding? at140 Sep 2019 #26
the difference is, even gun humpers are scared in this culture Skittles Sep 2019 #30
so true.... at140 Sep 2019 #32
alas Skittles Sep 2019 #33
I practice regularly at140 Sep 2019 #37
it's a sick, sick culture Skittles Sep 2019 #39
Yes 400 million+ guns in a country of 325 million at140 Sep 2019 #41
Vox - The "good guy with a gun" myth is just that. TomCADem Sep 2019 #19
Name one . . . hatrack Sep 2019 #38
Allow them in the state legislature and Governor's offices modrepub Sep 2019 #9
Bingo! What could go wrong with all those good guys with guns?! Evolve Dammit Sep 2019 #11
add Court houses ..nt at140 Sep 2019 #27
More guns to solve gun violence makes as much sense as giving more cocaine to a drug addict cstanleytech Sep 2019 #13
Is there something special about Texas ManiacJoe Sep 2019 #15
When will they learn that votes have consequences? I hope soon! Sparky 1 Sep 2019 #16
Don't these people realize that carrying guns isn't the right answer to all problems? If I see... SWBTATTReg Sep 2019 #17
That's right DVRacer Sep 2019 #21
Your f**king sarcasm is out of place and you're hyper. First of all, I own a gun, and I wouldn't .. SWBTATTReg Sep 2019 #24
Doesn't really matter as far as mass shootings go madville Sep 2019 #22
And yet another reason never to go to Texas. GoneOffShore Sep 2019 #23
The culture has changed cagefreesoylentgreen Sep 2019 #25
Millions of guns, guillaumeb Sep 2019 #29
Recommended. guillaumeb Sep 2019 #28
And this is why we can't have nice things. Initech Sep 2019 #31
I'm glad Texas is so far from the thoughtful North truthisfreedom Sep 2019 #34
Are you aiming at satire? Or am I giving you too much credit? Paladin Sep 2019 #36
Any area where a large number of people gather that is designated... spin Sep 2019 #35
Now even more people will get killed BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #42
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