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Polybius

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15. No matter what your politics are, there is no denying that Hugo Chavez was more effective

Reply to oberliner (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 09:36 PM

Jan 2019

I'm no Chavez fan either, but he was a far more effective leader, commanded more respect, and was a lot smarter than Maduro.

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Venezuela protests: thousands march as military faces call to abandon Maduro [View all] oberliner Jan 2019 OP

Looks Maduro might finally go down Amishman Jan 2019 #1

This is a scary situation.... Hulk Jan 2019 #2

Its been a mess for years with food and prescription drug shortages, kids starving in shanty towns mastermind Jan 2019 #4

Venezuela is not a socialist country, it is a dictatorship Perseus Jan 2019 #6

Its a democratic country that has a hard fasicist right minority. juxtaposed Jan 2019 #8

It hasnt been a democratic country for YEARS. A true free vote hasnt been held for a long time. oldsoftie Jan 2019 #12

Which mainstream party in Venezuela GatoGordo Jan 2019 #18

It may not be in reality a "socialist government".... Hulk Jan 2019 #9

Humanity suffers from being enamored by many myths.... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2019 #21

The drop in oil prices Sgent Jan 2019 #20

Venezuela has the world's largest oil reserves... brooklynite Jan 2019 #3

That depends on the price of oil. Scruffy1 Jan 2019 #11

Let's Hope It Isn't Too Violent PaulX2 Jan 2019 #5

Amen oberliner Jan 2019 #7

Hopefully the troops will soon side with the people. oldsoftie Jan 2019 #13

their Bolivarian revolution has come to a sticky end, i think 0rganism Jan 2019 #10

Cuba is an example of "success"? oldsoftie Jan 2019 #14

"success" in transitioning from state capitalism to socialism, yes 0rganism Jan 2019 #34

Ok. Got it. thank you for the clarification oldsoftie Jan 2019 #37

"successfully making the move from state capitalism to socialism is Cuba" EX500rider Jan 2019 #17

I can't think of a single "win" anywhere for Socialism GatoGordo Jan 2019 #28

No matter what your politics are, there is no denying that Hugo Chavez was more effective Polybius Jan 2019 #15

What about Caldera? oberliner Jan 2019 #16

I never heard much about him Polybius Jan 2019 #30

Seems like some of the pre-Chavez folks were fairly effective leaders oberliner Jan 2019 #39

Madura had the good fortune to die before things got bad GatoGordo Jan 2019 #19

Huh? oberliner Jan 2019 #24

my response was to Polybius GatoGordo Jan 2019 #26

But Madura is still alive oberliner Jan 2019 #27

Mea culpa (EOM) GatoGordo Jan 2019 #35

He likely meant to say Hugo Polybius Jan 2019 #29

Yes he was. he died before he was able to finish running it into the ground & stealing everything. oldsoftie Jan 2019 #38

Here are some sites to keep track of latest news from Venezuela.... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2019 #22

Thank you for sharing those links oberliner Jan 2019 #23

One thing is a given here, and not discussed much... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2019 #25

Protestors on TV enid602 Jan 2019 #31

Can you shed some more light on that? oberliner Jan 2019 #32

Caracans enid602 Jan 2019 #33

I married a Venezuelan mestizo GatoGordo Jan 2019 #36

The pictures seem in line with the demographics to me: EX500rider Jan 2019 #40

can't tell from this picture GatoGordo Jan 2019 #41