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In reply to the discussion: Hackers Crack Voting Machines Within Minutes At DEF CON In Vegas [View all]yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)29. If the goal of the Russians is to discredit American elections...
and this goal includes making us question the validity of our own elections, then the 'usual suspects' - including Donald Trump, Jill Stein, and the 'international hackers - have all managed to achieve their goal.
If we all went to paper ballots and hand count tallies, 'someone' would be asking for polling worker birth certificates!
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the budgets for the machines are enormous -- it's another example of taxpayer money being
diva77
Jul 2017
#31
yep; TWO repug POTUSs who LOST the popular vote in 16 years? really?? not coincidence. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Jul 2017
#12
We need to repeat, over and over: "ALL elections must be with paper ballots and MUST be audited"
JoeOtterbein
Jul 2017
#4
all counted by hand, the first time, IMO. most audits could be defeated. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Jul 2017
#10
I've wondered for years why Dem leadership has never taken this seriously. They can't all be
Amaryllis
Jul 2017
#16
nooo... i'm shocked... NOT. throw in russian resources and POTUS at stake, and it's guaranteed. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Jul 2017
#9
Again it's time to call my Sec. Of State Elections and ask what are they going to do about this
turbinetree
Jul 2017
#11
We ignored it in 2000 when Clint Curtis admitted to altering software so the GOP would win in Ohio
judesedit
Jul 2017
#20
sadly, if nothing was done after 2000, nothing will probably be done now. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Jul 2017
#37
if you voted on a paper ballot, most likely the tabulation was done with optical scanners which
diva77
Jul 2017
#23
Regardless of what the Russians' goal was, why should we risk it? We know how to avoid this.
Squinch
Jul 2017
#32
You don't seem to understand that optically scanned ballots can be audited and verified.
Bernardo de La Paz
Jul 2017
#43
wow, that's very trusting of you, but not very informed on this subject, IMO. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Jul 2017
#38
the goal is not to discredit our elections; it is to secure them and make them verifiable. who would
TheFrenchRazor
Jul 2017
#39
I like your version too. Now we need to put heat on Secretaries of State to respond to the DefCon
diva77
Jul 2017
#35
that's why i call it "faith-based voting." needless to say, i'm an atheist, and i need to see proof.
TheFrenchRazor
Jul 2017
#40
It blows my mind that those things are actually resold on the open market and not destroyed.
TheBlackAdder
Jul 2017
#44
This thread is full of people smugly telling us that hacking is unlikely. Right after an election
Squinch
Jul 2017
#45
i ask myself the same thing; why would anyone be opposed to a paper-based system? nt
TheFrenchRazor
Jul 2017
#55
don't know about this election, but extensive statistical analysis of 2000 election
TheFrenchRazor
Jul 2017
#56
you could check the DU archives for poster named Truth-is-all, or something similar (TIA)?;
TheFrenchRazor
Jul 2017
#58
Republicans Have Been Stealing Elections for Quite Some Time & The Watchdogs Have Been Put to Sleep
dlk
Jul 2017
#48
"The GOP can't win unless they cheat." I just said those exact words to my mom this morning!
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jul 2017
#54