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MowCowWhoHow III

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Fri May 20, 2016, 03:47 PM May 2016

Fatal EgyptAir flight suffered on-board fire minutes before crash [View all]

Source: Deutsche Welle

France is dispatching a naval vessel, equipped with sonar, to the site to try and locate the black box data recorders. An aviation expert told DW that equipment registered fires on board prior to the crash.

Smoke and fire broke out on board EgyptAir flight MS804 minutes before the plane plunged off radar screens during the early hours of Thursday morning.

"There was a fire on board," aviation expert Tim van Beverdn told DW. "The system sent very clear messages. There was a lavatory smoke detected. A minute later, avionics compartment smoke detected...Two minutes later, the flight control units are failing.". Van Beveren said he expected Egyptian authorities to corrobarte this information shortly.

Meanwhile, at the site of the crash, human remains have been identified, about 180 miles (290 km) north of Alexandria. The discovery comes roughly 36 hours after the A320 flying from Paris to Cairo abruptly disappeared from radar.

Read more: http://www.dw.com/en/fatal-egyptair-flight-suffered-on-board-fire-minutes-before-crash/a-19274278

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Something terrible happened in the galley/lav area just aft of the cockpit. MADem May 2016 #1
Looking more like a lithium battery problem... nt Jitter65 May 2016 #58
Thank you for the update, how sad for those on board. Edited, other sites carrying this now uppityperson May 2016 #2
I don't like to speculate, but would that likely be a bomb? LisaM May 2016 #3
Maybe a smoker who discarded a lit butt in the trash receptacle Warpy May 2016 #4
i think egyptair is non-smoking 6chars May 2016 #6
? Doesn't make any difference. nt thereismore May 2016 #8
So were the other flights it happened on Warpy May 2016 #9
And that's why they have ashtrays. joshcryer May 2016 #19
So is the bathroom at Cowboys stadium but that doesn't stop anyone snooper2 May 2016 #70
The trash receptacles in airplane lavs have fire extinguishers The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #79
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #26
Yep, nasty things when they go bad. Kelvin Mace May 2016 #37
No, less likely anigbrowl May 2016 #34
I think its unlikely to be a bomb as most bombings are typically followed by a message cstanleytech May 2016 #46
This seems to be based on this: muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #5
Aviate, Navigate, Communicate philosslayer May 2016 #7
What I hadn't realised was they already had 2 minutes between no contact and radar disappearance muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #21
Those clues could suggest an entire chunk of the plane was gone. AtheistCrusader May 2016 #15
EXtrodinary good data James48 May 2016 #25
Cracked windshield failues James48 May 2016 #27
I read the flight deck was on fire. AngryAmish May 2016 #78
Just remember what's most important matt819 May 2016 #10
Oh please leftynyc May 2016 #13
Exactly the kind of conclusions people shouldn't be knee-jerking to. AtheistCrusader May 2016 #16
That's not a conclusion, it's just acknowledging an obvious possibility anigbrowl May 2016 #36
No she didn't. That was a specific attribution. AtheistCrusader May 2016 #38
Wow, I didn't know she'd said this. polly7 May 2016 #45
No it wasn't anigbrowl May 2016 #47
I thought of mechanical failure, actually. AtheistCrusader May 2016 #65
I didn't say anything about trying to look 'stronger' so don't put quotes around it likme I did anigbrowl May 2016 #66
Double quote is exact, single quote is a paraphrase. AtheistCrusader May 2016 #73
"it looks like" is very different from "there's a possibility it is". uppityperson May 2016 #40
And what about Trump? blufinn May 2016 #62
That is a "Dog bites man" story, it would only be a story if Trump actually said something profound Fumesucker May 2016 #64
What about Trump? He proves repeatedly that he's a fear mongering ass. uppityperson May 2016 #88
Why, didn't you hear blufinn May 2016 #61
That should set our candidate and their candidate APART, not on the same page... AtheistCrusader May 2016 #76
Except that on the very same zentrum May 2016 #17
That's good advice for everyone's daily affairs: Know what you're talking about before . . . Journeyman May 2016 #23
Good thing greiner3 May 2016 #32
Exactly. AtheistCrusader May 2016 #39
This!!! And THIS!! and Finally THIS!!! Silver_Witch May 2016 #53
Thank you. pablo_marmol May 2016 #54
Of course they were. -none May 2016 #80
What dangerous narrative? leftynyc May 2016 #67
Doesn't matter what Egypt said. zentrum May 2016 #68
Is this from the same idiotic leftynyc May 2016 #69
Oh goodie, I see you're already lining up to pummel Iran too. AtheistCrusader May 2016 #75
What are you babbling about? leftynyc May 2016 #81
Keep on truckin' bro. AtheistCrusader May 2016 #82
War drum? leftynyc May 2016 #83
And what of the religious freaks here at home? AtheistCrusader May 2016 #84
Really? leftynyc May 2016 #85
I don't know or follow you. AtheistCrusader May 2016 #89
Waiting until the generation leftynyc May 2016 #92
Depending on who does the accounting, so do we. AtheistCrusader May 2016 #93
That was one of the arguments leftynyc May 2016 #94
Kerry has been every bit the SoS that Hillary should have been. AtheistCrusader May 2016 #74
She is a fear monger and Hawk and anything... Silver_Witch May 2016 #52
NAZI Trump already went there underthematrix May 2016 #29
Except that she said this: LiberalElite May 2016 #42
Yes I saw this and completely forgot she said this underthematrix May 2016 #44
Thats because it actually does shine a light on a very real issue cstanleytech May 2016 #49
Seems odd that it wasn't a terrorist attack.. phazed0 May 2016 #11
It rather depends on what part is burning and where the smoke is inside the plane. Ford_Prefect May 2016 #12
That's true. Apparently there have been none of the usual claims of responsibility. FailureToCommunicate May 2016 #24
A simple lav fire wouldn't bring down a modern jet. An electrical/cargo fire/bomb could. Baclava May 2016 #14
Bombs tend to decompress airplanes. AtheistCrusader May 2016 #18
Doesn't say front or rear, but it has both... jtuck004 May 2016 #20
Very irresponsible maindawg May 2016 #22
Why would anyone think terror? 6chars May 2016 #33
I think it's hilarious you're ready to jump to a conclusion... ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #55
An in-flight electrical fire can be catastrophic The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #28
... allan01 May 2016 #30
This goes against the terrorism theory, I think. Chemisse May 2016 #31
Yes, but they would have communicated, and you would expect a different sequence of ACARS messages. Yo_Mama May 2016 #48
Ahh. Yeah, I was thinking of ValueJet 592 that crashed in the Everglades. Chemisse May 2016 #57
Swissair flight 111 Angel Martin May 2016 #35
Benghazi ! Bernardo de La Paz May 2016 #41
Rubbish blufinn May 2016 #43
you tell 'em! 6chars May 2016 #50
I remember when an airplane accident was just that an accident. Silver_Witch May 2016 #51
Part of that is that planes are MUCH safer today. Adrahil May 2016 #77
if this were a bomb DonCoquixote May 2016 #56
Couldn't one intentionally short circuit an LiON battery? JCMach1 May 2016 #59
Of course...but blufinn May 2016 #60
Now, imagine you have piled all of them you are allowed to bring aboard in say a trash bin... JCMach1 May 2016 #63
Egypt deploys robot submarine in EgyptAir Flight 804 search Baclava May 2016 #71
some reported a fireball 'falling'. Those poor people, 90 degree jolt to left, full 360 to right & Sunlei May 2016 #72
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #86
Something for the conspiracy theorists to chew over MowCowWhoHow III May 2016 #87
I hope some family members are able to recover their relatives remains. Nt moriah May 2016 #90
More conflicting reports: 'EgyptAir plane 'did not swerve' before crash' Baclava May 2016 #91
EgyptAir navigation official says plane didn't make sharp turns or lose altitude before disappearing MowCowWhoHow III May 2016 #95
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