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RandySF

(61,313 posts) Wed Dec 21, 2016, 06:05 PM Dec 2016

Democrats to Hillary: Thanks you but it's time to hang it up. [View all]

PERSONAL NOTE: I am proud to have supported Hillary, but we're all getting old and it's time for us to move on.

A majority of Democratic and independent voters made clear that they don’t foresee Hillary Clinton in their 2020 vision of the presidential election, according to a USA Today/Suffolk University poll released on Wednesday.

Sixty-two percent of Democrats and independents surveyed said the twice-failed presidential candidate shouldn’t mount another campaign in 2020, and only 23 percent would be excited by her campaign if she did.

The two people they would most like to see are two of the most prominent Democratic-aligned politicians unlikely to seek the White House in 2020: Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and Vice President Joe Biden. Forty-four percent and 43 percent of those voters, respectively, said they would be excited to see Sanders and Biden run.

Sanders challenged Clinton for the Democratic nomination, but it’s unlikely that the 75-year-old independent senator would mount another White House bid. However, he has said he plans to run for reelection to his Senate seat in 2018.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/poll-democrats-independents-no-hillary-clinton-2020-232898

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Democrats to Hillary: Thanks you but it's time to hang it up. [View all] RandySF Dec 2016 OP

I pray she doesn't hang it up, more America likes her than Benedict Donald and her progressive uponit7771 Dec 2016 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author jack_krass Dec 2016 #113

Agree! Cha Dec 2016 #114

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #2

Like 75 year old Sanders? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2016 #10

And the other two need to hang it up too bravenak Dec 2016 #3

I agree. Caliman73 Dec 2016 #13

Exactly. You are spot on bravenak Dec 2016 #19

I agree as well. smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #74

I hope Hillary has a long and healthy retirement mcar Dec 2016 #33

Well said. Ilsa Dec 2016 #35

Yes mcar Dec 2016 #38

I don't think Hillary has any plans to run again. She know how to bow out gracefully, plus . . . brush Dec 2016 #79

Yep. She should enjoy her time bravenak Dec 2016 #95

She handled it with such grace mcar Dec 2016 #96

Exactly! treestar Dec 2016 #98

What about Mondale? BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #4

No shit. progressoid Dec 2016 #28

In 2020... trotsky Dec 2016 #5

And all three are primary (and one general) losers... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2016 #44

Warren will be 71.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #89

I'm kind of keeping an eye on Cory Booker. musicblind Dec 2016 #135

I would say, instead... Mike Nelson Dec 2016 #6

Harsh title but we do need someone new on the scene loyalsister Dec 2016 #7

Jason Kander PhilosopherKing Dec 2016 #15

I was so disappointed to see him lose loyalsister Dec 2016 #17

MO Dem party already has a new guy pstokely Dec 2016 #132

Oh that's right loyalsister Dec 2016 #134

Someone Who Never Won A National Office Me. Dec 2016 #30

FDR, Ike, Jimmy C., and even St. Ronnie might disagree..... lastlib Dec 2016 #83

You Are Right About Them Me. Dec 2016 #93

then what do you tell the people ready to vote for Michelle Obama? RegexReader Dec 2016 #122

I Wouldn't Tell Them Anything Me. Dec 2016 #123

no name recognition outside of MO pstokely Dec 2016 #131

We need to look beyond East Coast/beltway baby boomers, maybe. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #8

We Haven't Exactly Been Running East Coasters Me. Dec 2016 #32

You mean Tennessee, for Al Gore? Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #94

I Stand Corrected On Gore Me. Dec 2016 #107

Hart was 32 years ago, of course. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #117

I Agree About Inclusion Me. Dec 2016 #125

Hillary is great, Bernie is great, and uncle Joe is great Caliman73 Dec 2016 #9

1+ RiverStone Dec 2016 #52

I would like to see Hillary, Bernie, and Joe get behind either Al Franken or Kamala Harris in 2020. LeftofObama Dec 2016 #11

franken is an obvious pick. mopinko Dec 2016 #18

Agreed. LeftofObama Dec 2016 #22

has a good grasp of the facts, too. mopinko Dec 2016 #24

And dogonit people like him... PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #61

ikr? mopinko Dec 2016 #119

That's a good one. He has experience with hecklers, too. tclambert Dec 2016 #80

+1, but will he run?! uponit7771 Dec 2016 #90

i wouldnt be at all surprised. mopinko Dec 2016 #118

DU Rec. SixString Dec 2016 #12

Jayzus, what a stupid article frazzled Dec 2016 #14

Bernie, with his loyal following, should not be underestimated... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #124

I think the danger is rather in ... frazzled Dec 2016 #127

No they're not zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #137

She should be the face of a new voter registration campaign and fight against voter suppression. LonePirate Dec 2016 #16

Hillary, Obama, Sanders, etc... Caliman73 Dec 2016 #43

I couldn't agree more. Take some time to overcome the campaign stress then she needs to get to work! LonePirate Dec 2016 #46

Agreed. This is the only thing that might break that majority of repuglican morons mdbl Dec 2016 #86

+1...perfect uponit7771 Dec 2016 #92

Too soon lunatica Dec 2016 #20

Stupid article ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #21

She gets ROBBED so she positively sucks, right? LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #36

Since she wasn't planning to run for anything else, I don't know why this message was necessary. brooklynite Dec 2016 #23

Bingo. It's an insult thinly disguised as a "poll" CousinIT Dec 2016 #31

An insult disguised as a poll. Couldn't agree with you more. Paladin Dec 2016 #57

Just another excuse to kick her while she's down. emulatorloo Dec 2016 #39

Hillary to Democrats: Sorry, but I'm not your Grammy crosinski Dec 2016 #25

She did not get the shit kicked out of her. Caliman73 Dec 2016 #45

Thank You! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #49

This Is Not The First Time They Have Run An Article Like This Me. Dec 2016 #26

I'm with you radical noodle Dec 2016 #104

Surely in the Democratic Party there must be someone under the age of 65 ... spin Dec 2016 #27

Surely in the Democratic Party there must be someone under the age of 65 ... LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #40

Out of curiosity would you like to see Hillary try again in 2020? (n/t) spin Dec 2016 #68

Out of curiosity would you like to see Hillary try again in 2020? (n/t) LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #128

I agree. The next four years will be a bumpy ride for Democrats. ... spin Dec 2016 #136

Did SHE say she was considering a 2020 run? If not this is just a backward way to insult her. n/t CousinIT Dec 2016 #29

Exactly. She is obviously retired at this point. StevieM Dec 2016 #50

Stupid. poll. Only exists to creat controversy!! Hillary has given no indication whatsoever riversedge Dec 2016 #34

I would like to see Michael Moore run. zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #37

Neither Clinton, nor Sanders, nor Obama were born with a silver spoon. Caliman73 Dec 2016 #59

She's not running. Fuck the Republican friendly POLITICO for needlessly shitting on HRC emulatorloo Dec 2016 #41

Charming. ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #42

If you were born in the 1940s, I don't want you to run for president. BlueStater Dec 2016 #47

I was born in the 1940s and I agree with you. rzemanfl Dec 2016 #54

Eager to close the books on 2016, aren't they? ucrdem Dec 2016 #48

This article is just an excuse to slap her in the face one more time Maven Dec 2016 #51

She doesn't need to run again. I'm giving her a 25% chance of taking the oath on Jan. 20. ucrdem Dec 2016 #53

Um no. cwydro Dec 2016 #58

The sun also rises eh? ucrdem Dec 2016 #60

Lol! cwydro Dec 2016 #140

Yeah, then Pence gets it SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #91

Gets a lighter sentence maybe. ucrdem Dec 2016 #97

OK SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #103

Here's how: she won. ucrdem Dec 2016 #106

Nothing then SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #112

fine, but "the democrats" better get their own house in order or it's really not going to matter. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #55

no more Boomers. Down with the gerontocracy! nt geek tragedy Dec 2016 #56

This boomer's cool with that, except, most boomers never saw themselves in any 'ocracy' in the US. ancianita Dec 2016 #62

our party is ruled by people over 70. geek tragedy Dec 2016 #64

This boomer never related to those folks. They never represented my FDR politics. ancianita Dec 2016 #66

Perhaps Obama won because he was young and charismatic. ... spin Dec 2016 #72

Sorry Me. Dec 2016 #108

Qualifications and experience have next to no value geek tragedy Dec 2016 #110

I Think We'll Have To Agree To Disagree Me. Dec 2016 #115

I can't imagine how stressful a Presidential campaign can be. I think Hillary would be tired by now. YOHABLO Dec 2016 #63

there's Gotta Be A Million Ways to serve the country without running for president Bucky Dec 2016 #65

Plus one n/t emulatorloo Dec 2016 #78

We don't need Hillary, Bernie, or Joe to run. They've all had their chances. n/t pnwmom Dec 2016 #67

Did Hillary announce a 2020 run and I missed it? JHan Dec 2016 #69

There was no great cry for her to run in the first place. LittleBlue Dec 2016 #70

The word "excited" should be left out of all superficial discussions of candidacies. gulliver Dec 2016 #71

"Do I want to see Clinton on the speaking trail mocking and correcting Trump? " --- JHan Dec 2016 #85

Warren and Bernie are going after Trump for the next 4 years HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #130

I do somewhat agree with this. Time for some new blood in the party Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #73

I don't necessarily want Bernie, Hillary, or Joe to run, but I definitely want madinmaryland Dec 2016 #75

Time for new blood rtracey Dec 2016 #76

I can't imagine she would run again, but if she did and she were the nominee, I'd vote her in. ffr Dec 2016 #77

Well, as long as one of the finest charities going is allowed to continue, Eliot Rosewater Dec 2016 #81

Stay home Hillary, Elizabeth Warren or Tulsi Gabbard should be the first woman prez joanbarnes Dec 2016 #82

Good God in Butter Botany Dec 2016 #84

Elizabeth Warren? She'll be 71. How about Gavin Newsom? tclambert Dec 2016 #87

I would agree with that Lotusflower70 Dec 2016 #88

Clinton, Sanders, Biden--all too old in 2020. JNelson6563 Dec 2016 #99

Add Warren to that list SharonClark Dec 2016 #116

Where has Hillary said she is even interested? treestar Dec 2016 #100

Happy Trails to You jalan48 Dec 2016 #101

Considering her strong performance in the popular HeartachesNhangovers Dec 2016 #102

I still want Clinton Jamaal510 Dec 2016 #105

I voted for her in 2008, I voted for her in 2016 Packerowner741 Dec 2016 #109

How fucking rude. I call bullshit. A bit presumptious.. who in the Cha Dec 2016 #111

Regarding Sanders, If they can manage the head-jar thing (ala Futurama) Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #120

We need a 40 year old in the mold of Bernie and Obama. X_Digger Dec 2016 #121

There has been no expression of interest from Hillary that she might be interested in 2020. Lil Missy Dec 2016 #126

I understand from the age perspective but seems a little soon to be throwing her under the bus n/t Hamlette Dec 2016 #129

Oh f'petesake. SHE doesn't want to run, and why on Earth would she put herself thru that again? Hekate Dec 2016 #133

Taylor Swift zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #138

If she runs in 2020... joshcryer Dec 2016 #139