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96. Citing Michael Bellesiles?!?! "My god", indeed.

Mon Dec 26, 2011, 06:48 PM

Dec 2011

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Here's a tip: If you are going to try to support your claim by citing disgraced authors, you are doing it wrong.

As far as "getting difficult", yes, I am. I actually ask that people support their claims and assertions with evidence. If I didn't, I'd be a Republican. (Joke and stereotype, but I'm sure you get my point.) I stopped taking things on faith far back in grade school. I take some small pride in it, actually.

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What in the hell is wrong with people.A kid back from Afganistan is shot at his own party [View all] bigdarryl Dec 2011 OP

One of the reasons is the wide availablity of guns nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #1

Gun control is now the third rail of politics. That's a good thing, as far as I'm concerned. Abin Sur Dec 2011 #2

Things change, all I can tell you nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #3

Sure, things might change *eventually*...but not anytime soon. Abin Sur Dec 2011 #7

I would not count on that nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #8

Oh, I'm not. I think we can count on the absurd Assault Weapon Ban to be in the 2012 platform. Abin Sur Dec 2011 #10

Because we all need fully automatic FAL's to go hunting with an extended mag nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #22

You know better than that. ManiacJoe Dec 2011 #24

Not where a few of our friends would like to go though nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #25

What do fully automatic weapons such as the FN FAL have to do with the AWB? Abin Sur Dec 2011 #27

Even the civilan version has that problem nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #28

You've lost me. What's "comedic" about the FN FAL? Abin Sur Dec 2011 #31

Check you safety nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #33

A Colt SAA can do the same thing when dropped with the hammer down. Why is that funny? Abin Sur Dec 2011 #35

As a medic who got to answer a few calls nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #37

To each their own, I guess... Abin Sur Dec 2011 #40

Well the cop who was playing with a 25 nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #42

Of course he shouldn't have done that, it was a violation of every basic gun safety rule. Abin Sur Dec 2011 #44

If you do not get the humor nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #46

Sorry, I don't find people maiming theselves in a gun accident funny. Abin Sur Dec 2011 #49

In general I do not find guns funny or atractive nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #52

I don't find them particularly funny, myself. Attractive? That's another matter. Abin Sur Dec 2011 #54

Yup, when you know what they do for real nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #56

I certainly know that they can do for real. That doesn't mean they're not pretty. Abin Sur Dec 2011 #69

And your point? Yes they have artistic lines nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #70

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Abin Sur Dec 2011 #71

That is true, but I cannot consider this pretty (graphic) nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #73

Neither do I. Abin Sur Dec 2011 #77

No it is not nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #79

I'm speaking of people's reactions to a method of death, *not* an animal's instincts. Abin Sur Dec 2011 #81

Tricky part about those fighters and tanks nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #85

Not so. Machine guns are legal in most states, and you can register a cannon Abin Sur Dec 2011 #87

What part of demiled are you missing? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #94

Cites for your claims? n/t PavePusher Dec 2011 #72

I love blue states. Looks good for the Dems in 2012. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2011 #17

Shhh demosincebirth Dec 2011 #13

Aren't guns great? Everyone should have at least 10. appleannie1 Dec 2011 #4

I have around 100, myself...here's my latest aquisition. Abin Sur Dec 2011 #6

That Post Is In Poor Taste, For A Thread Like This One. Paladin Dec 2011 #12

I was replying to someone who brought up the subject of people owning multiple guns, not the OP. Abin Sur Dec 2011 #14

Show Off Your Gun Photo In The Gun Control/RKBA Group, Not Here. Paladin Dec 2011 #23

Why? What's the bid deal about posting a picture of a vintage handgun? Abin Sur Dec 2011 #26

Show some respect for the victim. ellisonz Dec 2011 #61

+100 pinboy3niner Dec 2011 #64

I would point out that I was responding to someone who used the story to make their own point about Abin Sur Dec 2011 #67

Dancing in the victim's blood to advance an anti-gun agenda is, however, in good taste? nt hack89 Dec 2011 #86

I fail to see how showing a picture of my purchase disrespects the victim in any way, Abin Sur Dec 2011 #66

"has nothing whatsoever to do with the victim." ellisonz Dec 2011 #95

Side note: 'Paladin' was the star character in a TV show some decades ago pinboy3niner Dec 2011 #65

Have you served in the military? tabasco Dec 2011 #34

Yes to both. Abin Sur Dec 2011 #36

Too bad. tabasco Dec 2011 #53

My BIL, a vet of the bush in Nam nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #55

Of course, 100 guns, for when Obama takes them away you'll have a few left.... DainBramaged Dec 2011 #41

How is buying a collectable gun that will go in my safe spending money on "death"? Abin Sur Dec 2011 #47

Thank God for the 2nd Amendment. styersc Dec 2011 #5

Exactly!! If we allowed the same gun control that has long been required in every single democracy Douglas Carpenter Dec 2011 #11

Is Switzerland part of "every single democracy on the face of this Earth without exception"? Abin Sur Dec 2011 #15

and those guns in Switzerland are very much accounted for, It is ludicrous to imagine that there is Douglas Carpenter Dec 2011 #20

Speaking of the NRA, here a useful link Abin Sur Dec 2011 #29

Well Israelies have at home either an M-14 nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #30

In the Czech Republic, you don't need a permit to carry a concealed handgun. Abin Sur Dec 2011 #32

The chechs also have a MUCH LOWER ownership ratio nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #39

I was speaking of gun laws, not ownership rates. As for the militia... Abin Sur Dec 2011 #43

Sad, if we have such an organized thing, which is NOT what the Founders nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #45

What part of "all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age" wasn't clear? Abin Sur Dec 2011 #48

Alas I am going over ORIGINAL INTENT nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #50

I'm certainly not going to melt them down! I plan to start selling them when I retire, Abin Sur Dec 2011 #57

If you're not targeted for theft because of your extensive collection... ellisonz Dec 2011 #62

Which is why they're insured against loss or theft. Abin Sur Dec 2011 #68

And you always have that magic ring. Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #88

You've identified what you consider to be a problem. What solution, if any, do you propose? Abin Sur Dec 2011 #89

People like you are part of a specific problem Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #92

Surely you can explain.... PavePusher Dec 2011 #74

You of course know, or perhaps not, that drill was required, once nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #75

You have failed to answer the question. PavePusher Dec 2011 #76

Actually it was in some municipalities, such as york town nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #78

Cite, please. n/t PavePusher Dec 2011 #80

My god, you really are getting difficult nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #84

Citing Michael Bellesiles?!?! "My god", indeed. PavePusher Dec 2011 #96

As I said, actual archives would be too much for you nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #97

Do you really think it's all about permits? Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #82

You don't know what the word "pornographic" means, do you? Abin Sur Dec 2011 #83

Yes your pix are what are known as gun porn Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #90

The term "gun porn" is normally used affectionately, not pejoratively. Abin Sur Dec 2011 #91

Yes we know that. By those who love their guns to the point of arousal. Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #93

I know a guy who sleeps with his DeathToTheOil Dec 2011 #98

Well, you do live in varmint country Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #100

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First, he wasn't defending this country DavidDvorkin Dec 2011 #9

What's a party without guns? TheCowsCameHome Dec 2011 #16

Sexier, IMO. Robb Dec 2011 #18

More polite of course.. Fumesucker Dec 2011 #19

this is one area that sets us apart from other "developed" "civilized" "first world" etc nations JI7 Dec 2011 #21

Suggested movie> Survivoreesta Dec 2011 #51

The shooter was a chickenshit. Shooting someone over a football game? LiberalFighter Dec 2011 #58

gun nuts prevail Skittles Dec 2011 #59

Too many pissed off people with too much access to guns. ellisonz Dec 2011 #60

Alcohol + armed people = stupidity all around. Selatius Dec 2011 #63

And yet state legislatures are legalizing guns in bars Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #101

You aren't going to find a lot of outrage here. YellowRubberDuckie Dec 2011 #99