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Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
100. Nice selective editing, but you do realize that only unions practice "liberal corporatism"
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 12:23 PM
Mar 2015

A concept of corporatism that is not embraced by the third way political philosophy. The multinationals that are writing Hillary's views on free trade follow a vision much more akin to "Italian Corporatism"

Your post reminds me of the fascist apologia of the early thirties best expressed by the 1932

"Doctrine of Fascism"

When brought within the orbit of the State, Fascism recognizes the real needs which gave rise to socialism and trade unionism, giving them due weight in the guild or corporative system in which divergent interests are coordinated and harmonized in the unity of the State.[36]...


[The state] is not simply a mechanism which limits the sphere of the supposed liberties of the individual... Neither has the Fascist conception of authority anything in common with that of a police ridden State... Far from crushing the individual, the Fascist State multiplies his energies, just as in a regiment a soldier is not diminished but multiplied by the number of his fellow soldiers.


Taking the word corporatism completely out of context of modern use to imply it is something it is not, reveals you to be full of something often found on barn floors that must be cleaned from time to time.

Another cute misrepresentation of yours is your implication that neo-liberalism "doesn't really mean anything", when in fact it has a very clear meaning in it's modern usage:

Neoliberalism[1] is the resurgence of ideas associated with laissez-faire economic liberalism beginning in the 1970s and 1980s,[2][3][4] whose advocates support extensive economic liberalization, free trade, and reductions in government spending in order to enhance the role of the private sector in the economy.[5][6][7][8] The usage and definition of the term have changed over time.[7]

Originally neoliberalism was an economic philosophy that emerged among European liberal scholars in the 1930s attempting to trace a so-called ‘Third’ or ‘Middle Way’ between the conflicting philosophies of classical liberalism and collectivist central planning.[9] The impetus for this development arose from a desire to avoid repeating the economic failures of the early 1930s, which were mostly blamed on the economic policy of classical liberalism. In the decades that followed, the use of the term neoliberal tended to refer to theories at variance with the more laissez-faire doctrine of classical liberalism and promoted instead a market economy under the guidance and rules of a strong state, a model which came to be known as the social market economy.

In the 1960s, usage of the term "neoliberal" heavily declined. When the term was reintroduced in the 1980s in connection with Augusto Pinochet’s economic reforms in Chile, the usage of the term had shifted. It had not only become a term with negative connotations employed principally by critics of market reform, but it also had shifted in meaning from a moderate form of liberalism to a more radical and laissez-faire capitalist set of ideas. Scholars now tended to associate it with the theories of economists Friedrich Hayek and Milton Friedman.[7] Once the new meaning of neoliberalism was established as a common usage among Spanish-speaking scholars, it diffused directly into the English-language study of political economy.[7]

Neoliberalism also represents a set of ideas that are famously associated with the economic policies introduced by Margaret Thatcher in the United Kingdom and Ronald Reagan in the United States.[2]
Good for you for getting involved. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #1
Thanks for posting this. I receive his emails but have not received this info. Jefferson23 Mar 2015 #2
Yay! Here's something I HappyMe Mar 2015 #3
I don't want to scare you, but BERNIESANDERS.COM is registered in Panama.... brooklynite Mar 2015 #4
There are some bugs tracks29 Mar 2015 #6
See my updated #4. You may be getting spoofed. brooklynite Mar 2015 #7
That's the privacy protection nationalize the fed Mar 2015 #19
Why would the Sanders campaign use privacy protection? drm604 Mar 2015 #40
Because that's a prudent and secure thing to do versus nichomachus Mar 2015 #55
Total non-sequitur. drm604 Mar 2015 #59
OMG! Bernie Sanders is really John McCain!!! cui bono Mar 2015 #10
... TBF Mar 2015 #41
How conscientious of you! RufusTFirefly Mar 2015 #31
He is just very concerned, poor guy. /nt Dragonfli Mar 2015 #62
is he running as a Dem? Sheepshank Mar 2015 #5
He hasn't officially announced anything. HappyMe Mar 2015 #8
I guess then... I don't understand the DU love affair and congratulatory posts... Sheepshank Mar 2015 #25
I personally don't undetstand the HappyMe Mar 2015 #28
atta boy/girl/other Sheepshank Mar 2015 #30
Yes another day and another trumped up outrage. I would say that Sen Sanders rhett o rick Mar 2015 #53
Vilified? HappyMe Mar 2015 #86
I have no doubt he is going to run in the Democratic primary tracks29 Mar 2015 #29
Maybe I can help you understand. There are a lot of Democratic folks that don't like to be rhett o rick Mar 2015 #36
so they why is this called Democratic Underground? Sheepshank Mar 2015 #42
Oh gawd....enough of that already NorthCarolina Mar 2015 #47
What you said!!!!1! corkhead Mar 2015 #66
+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #105
Why are some so afraid of someone progressive running against the corporatist's choice? rhett o rick Mar 2015 #56
I don't think anyone is "afraid", it's just that most here (hopefully) are Democrats and... George II Mar 2015 #67
Oh, you poor thing. Better lay down for awhile. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #70
I appreciate being able to respond to your post. Progressives love Sen Sanders rhett o rick Mar 2015 #71
Last time I checked, NorthCarolina Mar 2015 #83
You don't make a lot of sense... haikugal Mar 2015 #103
Yawn....pretty presumptuous of of you! George II Mar 2015 #104
Of course... haikugal Mar 2015 #108
How so? I haven't made any assumptions (or presumptions) about your background, have I? George II Mar 2015 #109
Of course you have. haikugal Mar 2015 #111
So where have I made any comment about your background or nationality? George II Mar 2015 #113
Nice try... haikugal Mar 2015 #114
Who's afraid . ... PosterChild Mar 2015 #78
You are in favor of corporatism? Enthusiast Mar 2015 #81
Right now, I'm . .. PosterChild Mar 2015 #85
People fling around the catchwords "corporatist" and "corporatism" like the red-baiters... George II Mar 2015 #88
Go back to Canada. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #95
I was born in Brooklyn and have lived within 75 miles of NYC my entire life, so STFU! George II Mar 2015 #97
what an utterly disgusting come back Sheepshank Mar 2015 #116
... Enthusiast Mar 2015 #117
Thanks for speaking up! (nt) PosterChild Mar 2015 #123
I think we need a "Go Back to Canada" meme... PosterChild Mar 2015 #125
Corporatism does not mean something like democratic socialism. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #94
See my post #100 (you are correct by the way) /nt Dragonfli Mar 2015 #102
Thank you, Dragonfli. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #106
Bug off? PosterChild Mar 2015 #121
Nice selective editing, but you do realize that only unions practice "liberal corporatism" Dragonfli Mar 2015 #100
Yes, the Doctrine of Fascism... PosterChild Mar 2015 #122
nice try, but no one is buying it Dragonfli Mar 2015 #126
Sorry, But I think I've got it right ... PosterChild Mar 2015 #128
You are wrong, it means what it means, the meaning has been shown to you - twice Dragonfli Mar 2015 #129
There is the need to muddy the water. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #131
He's an Ind BobbyBoring Mar 2015 #101
Exactly Dragonfli Mar 2015 #65
That nails it. nt LWolf Mar 2015 #75
Yep. nt raouldukelives Mar 2015 #87
since he has said repeatedly that he will run to prevent mopinko Mar 2015 #77
He has said repeatedly that if he runs, he'll run as a Dem. arcane1 Mar 2015 #112
If he runs, odds are it will be as a Dem. nt G_j Mar 2015 #34
Everyone - this is NOT Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign site brooklynite Mar 2015 #9
I don't imagine anyone thought it was, it states at the bottom: Jefferson23 Mar 2015 #13
www.bernie.org is NOT the website in the OP (www.berniesanders.com) brooklynite Mar 2015 #17
The phone number displayed at that first link in the OP Jefferson23 Mar 2015 #20
A rich wannabe kingmaker is so concerned about us poor POOR folk, bless his kind heart. /nt Dragonfli Mar 2015 #63
Is this a site setup by Karl Rove or his friends? DURHAM D Mar 2015 #24
Nah..they'll focus their bogus nasty stuff at Hillary Clinton, as usual. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2015 #27
Yes it is. It is associated with "Friends of Bernie" which is his campaign group. tracks29 Mar 2015 #14
...for his Senate campaign. A Presidential campaign will need to be registered with the FEC... brooklynite Mar 2015 #21
I'm sure they will do what is necessary when he formarly announces tracks29 Mar 2015 #23
At the bottom of the page below, it says "Paid for by Friends of Bernie Sanders". greatauntoftriplets Mar 2015 #15
Nice disinformation campaign you got going there, but you demand people be nice about HRC. Rex Mar 2015 #32
I've been clear that I have no problem with Sanders running... brooklynite Mar 2015 #35
Why must you be so sensible and pragmatic? Sheesh, you forgot this was "Democratic Underground"? George II Mar 2015 #68
George the III is that you? Rex Mar 2015 #84
What do you mean? George II Mar 2015 #89
Who cares I'll be President before he will bigdarryl Mar 2015 #11
Damn. HappyMe Mar 2015 #12
Why is it a bust? smokey nj Mar 2015 #16
It wasn't loading properly. HappyMe Mar 2015 #18
To everyone doubting this tracks29 Mar 2015 #22
Thanks! HappyMe Mar 2015 #26
thank goodness, dont want them having my amex card info if not legit NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #79
I see someone could not wait to start with the smears and lies against Sanders. Rex Mar 2015 #33
Really colsohlibgal Mar 2015 #37
The main butt hurt one spends thousands investing in purchasable candidates Dragonfli Mar 2015 #64
I must say, I never thought of Elizabeth Warren and Alan Grayson as "purchasable....." brooklynite Mar 2015 #72
+1 nt RiverLover Mar 2015 #74
You are focusing on bundling money for Warren and Sanders if they run in 2016? Dragonfli Mar 2015 #127
1. I never bundle... brooklynite Mar 2015 #130
This message was self-deleted by its author Dragonfli Mar 2015 #120
very cool Katashi_itto Mar 2015 #38
Woot! TBF Mar 2015 #39
WOOT! NorthCarolina Mar 2015 #43
Campaign site for which office? George II Mar 2015 #44
First thing I noticed. The site doesn't say what he's running for. wyldwolf Mar 2015 #48
It was amazingly obvious to me = never mentioned the office although there was a vague comment... George II Mar 2015 #61
There's something suspicious about this. drm604 Mar 2015 #45
I clicked your Link and got a certificate error Hatchling Mar 2015 #46
Strange isn't it? drm604 Mar 2015 #52
Has he changed his registration to D yet? Hekate Mar 2015 #49
His stand on issues is far more Democratic on every issue... 99Forever Mar 2015 #76
That's adorable. I thought his fans wanted him to actually have the Democratic Party nominate him. Hekate Mar 2015 #96
Well bless your heart. 99Forever Mar 2015 #115
Doesn't answer my question Hekate Mar 2015 #118
Oh my! 99Forever Mar 2015 #119
Has the Democratic party changed back to D yet? L0oniX Mar 2015 #82
+1 whereisjustice Mar 2015 #90
I thought the idea was to have him nominated by the Democratic Party. He's a nice man, but ... Hekate Mar 2015 #99
+1 You nailed it. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #107
Ouch! hay rick Mar 2015 #124
k&r... spanone Mar 2015 #50
DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #51
Some unknown "friend" thanks you very much for you money Sheepshank Mar 2015 #132
Senator Sanders caucuses with us Babel_17 Mar 2015 #54
I'd be careful with donations to that site, MineralMan Mar 2015 #57
When Sanders formally announces for president, repost the site, and make it all nice and official dissentient Mar 2015 #58
People are already showing their true colors. The Populist Movement is here and the rhett o rick Mar 2015 #91
True. They are scared, as well as desperate. dissentient Mar 2015 #110
I get this message on Firefox Go Vols Mar 2015 #60
Happy days are here again......... Omaha Steve Mar 2015 #69
Is he running as a Democrat? Adrahil Mar 2015 #73
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Mar 2015 #80
Is this a PAC? NCTraveler Mar 2015 #92
This site is blocked for me at work, which seems fishy cyberswede Mar 2015 #93
Readyforhillary website seems suspicious... whereisjustice Mar 2015 #98
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