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In reply to the discussion: White hip hop artist under fire [View all]Number23
(24,544 posts)291. Nice to see you, fishwax. You're one of a handful DUers that has really tried to not make this place
as miserable as utterly possible for minorities.
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do you think it is acceptable for black people to be pop/country/classical/polka artists?
msongs
Dec 2014
#3
One can criticize Iggy Azalea for being a tasteless jerk aping racist stereotypes...
Odin2005
Dec 2014
#301
It's a good thing I have a strong historico-theoretical basis for my opinion.
Gravitycollapse
Dec 2014
#286
Charley Pride proves it's acceptable for black people to be country artists
jmowreader
Dec 2014
#121
Yep. A cool thing about country is that it has evolved in its give and take with other musical forms
ancianita
Dec 2014
#349
She is Australian and changes her vocal style to sound like she's African American
gollygee
Dec 2014
#9
To be fair, the OP (unlike you) only used quotation marks when quoting someone.
Nye Bevan
Dec 2014
#10
Again, it is about her changing her style of speech to mimic African Americans
gollygee
Dec 2014
#14
Cultural appropriation is when dominant groups take over something from an oppressed group
gollygee
Dec 2014
#76
Beg pardon? I don't think you mean he was well spoken for a person of color. Thats the way he talked
marble falls
Dec 2014
#376
My parents like a country music singer from (I think) Australia who fakes his southern accent.
arcane1
Dec 2014
#37
black people in australia are not african americans unless they are visiting or expats
JI7
Dec 2014
#33
"This thread is going nowhere" Don't ALL race threads on this clueless web site go nowhere? Isn't
Number23
Dec 2014
#229
He doesn't appropriate a stereotyped version of a speaking style of a person of color
gollygee
Dec 2014
#418
I agree. It is very racist to claim someone can't sing a certain way because they are white
joeglow3
Dec 2014
#332
Actually, she changed her vocal style to sound like a southern rapper...not AA per se.
PragmaticLiberal
Dec 2014
#92
I would rather look at Rihanna or Beyoncé than Iggy. Not so much with Nicki Minaj..
_Blue_
Dec 2014
#243
Iggy's sound and style is popular. She shouldn't be punished for artistic success.
_Blue_
Dec 2014
#247
Mick Jagger and Mick Hucknall are English, John Fogerty is American, and they do the same thing.
Ken Burch
Dec 2014
#350
I would have told her: Welcome to the club, plus the exploitation and the people that have been..
BlueJazz
Dec 2014
#35
she only gets emotional while talking about both her songs and slave reparations.
Calista241
Dec 2014
#410
Now that I think about it, I don't see African Americans playing banjo very often either.
arcane1
Dec 2014
#42
Ahistorical reductionism is not a valid intellectual position. Try again.
Gravitycollapse
Dec 2014
#21
Who exactly appointed you the judge of what is or is not a "valid intellectual position"
branford
Dec 2014
#25
Unprovable in what respect? If you want to be an absolutist, up your semantics game.
Gravitycollapse
Dec 2014
#279
WRONG! Native Americans certainly own the right to call their artwork "Native American".
KittyWampus
Dec 2014
#90
Yes, Ayn Rand, you have the legal right to do a number of irresponsible things. n/t
gollygee
Dec 2014
#242
So, I just watched an Iggy Azalea video so I would know what the brouhaha is over
TransitJohn
Dec 2014
#82
Thank you, beat me to the punch. I don't care about Iggy personally but she stinks.
sir pball
Dec 2014
#216
It would be like saying Azealia Banks wears a straight wig to give herself a more anglo look...
951-Riverside
Dec 2014
#30
If you think that hair is "anglo", you are ignorant of African-American style.
morningfog
Dec 2014
#38
I'm only pointing out how absurd and idiotic her attack on Icky Australian is
951-Riverside
Dec 2014
#39
Of course it is acceptable. You can't control music and art like something you own.
Vattel
Dec 2014
#40
Can she take it? Here is her twitter log regarding the latest Banks poutrage...
MelungeonWoman
Dec 2014
#192
And yet, like most popular male rappers, they're nowhere near exceptional in their rapping skills.
nomorenomore08
Dec 2014
#253
White appropriation of black culture is nothing new but Iggy takes it to another level
Number23
Dec 2014
#45
His name's Geoffrey Gurrumul Yunupingu, and unlike Iggy he's amazingly talented...
Violet_Crumble
Dec 2014
#399
"difference between Iggy and Eminem and the Beastie Boys is that they've got talent and she doesn't"
EX500rider
Dec 2014
#306
Actually yes.....and if Eminem's talent is singing about raping Iggy I can do without, thanks..
EX500rider
Dec 2014
#318
So it's about the money. It's really only offensive because she's successful. n/t
hughee99
Dec 2014
#107
If you got that out of my post, out of the article in the OP and out of the comments in this thread
Number23
Dec 2014
#125
So I should do a bit of research into the number of black people that railed about
hughee99
Dec 2014
#140
As I said in my first post to you, your inability to read and process the lines of this conversation
Number23
Dec 2014
#141
The style is part of the artistic work, and the style is what is being appropriated.
kwassa
Dec 2014
#263
Okay, so this is not really what we were discussing before, where style is part of an artist's
hughee99
Dec 2014
#274
Cultural appropriation has a definition. It has been posted repeatedly. Read it and understand.
kwassa
Dec 2014
#387
Nice to see you, fishwax. You're one of a handful DUers that has really tried to not make this place
Number23
Dec 2014
#291
That one post was all that was needed on this OP. Thanks for saying it: she uses it to....
marble falls
Dec 2014
#380
there is sort of an implicit racism in implying southern black women sound a particular way.
KittyWampus
Dec 2014
#91
They call Aerosmith "the grandfathers of rap" because of "Walk This Way"..
Ghost in the Machine
Dec 2014
#144
Wah Wah Wah, Someone else wants to express themselves in the same medium as me.
Taitertots
Dec 2014
#84
However you and your sister might not have fit in with some black strippers in Miami either.
EX500rider
Dec 2014
#308
Anyone who believes in racial appropriation is a segregationist and instant racist.
chrisa
Dec 2014
#127
he edited to add the message body vs just title, to make sure it was hideable
uppityperson
Dec 2014
#204
how do you make it? as kids we liked cold rice with milk, sugar, cinnamon for breakfast, it got
uppityperson
Dec 2014
#209
So you're a Dan Snyder fan, who thinks redface on football fans is just 'honoring' Native Americans?
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Dec 2014
#254
the Beastie Boys 'Paul's Boutique' is widely regarded as one of the greatest hip-hop albums..
frylock
Dec 2014
#130
Because of course hip-hop has never, ever had anything at all to do with race or politics.
Spider Jerusalem
Dec 2014
#138
I don't see Banks or anyone else saying white ppl shouldn't be hip hop artists
fishwax
Dec 2014
#147
"I also think it's strange how similar her name and Azealia Banks' name are."
EX500rider
Dec 2014
#225
And my parents said that about Pearl jam, Nirvana, sound garden and Alice in chains
joeglow3
Dec 2014
#206
This 'old' parent was saying that about Hanson, S club 7 and the Spice Girls...
Violet_Crumble
Dec 2014
#298
If the quote is accurate (never a given), then Banks does not understand music.
True Blue Door
Dec 2014
#200
Iggy's been quite gross, but rap/hip-hop aren't giving their beats back to the Art of Noise anytime
MisterP
Dec 2014
#278
Is it acceptable for white people to play jazz? Or for black people to play classical?
hatrack
Dec 2014
#325
anyones free to 'make music & try to sell it' Iggy is not a decent musician anyway.
Sunlei
Dec 2014
#330
I suspect very few fans of Iggy ever think of the racial aspect you are claiming here.
DCBob
Jan 2015
#438
I think she is simply copying a music style that is very popular and profitable.
DCBob
Jan 2015
#442