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Omaha Steve

(99,653 posts)
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 10:25 PM Dec 2014

Congress just stuck one up the middle class rear end!!! (updated) [View all]


http://apnews.excite.com/article/20141210/us--congress_rdp-15b0b1309f.html

In an unexpected move, lawmakers also agreed on legislation expected to be incorporated into the spending measure that will permit a reduction in benefits for current retirees at economically distressed multiemployer pension plans. Supporters said it was part of an effort to prevent a slow-motion collapse of a system that provides retirement income to millions, but critics objected vehemently.


UPDATE info is based on just Illinois: Employers' woes push union pension plans to collapse: http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20141206/ISSUE01/312069985/employers-woes-push-union-pension-plans-to-collapse

Nearly 230,000 Chicago-area union workers and retirees risk not getting the pensions they've been promised, and some may not get any retirement benefits at all unless Congress comes up with a fix soon.

While lawmakers wrestled with the issue for at least 10 years, $6.26 billion in unfunded retirement obligations was racked up by 30 union-affiliated plans in the city and suburbs that are in financial danger. That doesn't count the Teamsters Central States, Southeast and Southwest Areas pension fund, which alone is $17.55 billion short of what it needs to pay benefits for its nearly 408,000 members nationwide, including 30,000 in Illinois.

It has been a quiet, slow-moving crisis, but Central States could change that. If a solution isn't in place by 2017, the Rosemont-based plan is expected to go belly-up in 10 years or so, experts say.

“I've told politicians many times before, if you really want to know what the 800-pound gorilla in the room is for us, it's our pensions,” says John Bryan, president of Geneva Construction and chairman of the Illinois Road and Transportation Builders Association.

FULL story at link.

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Simple solution: Nationalize retirement, keep it solvent, expand social security. NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #1
I'm not Omaha Steve, but I can answer... antigop Dec 2014 #13
I agree!!!! LeftInTX Dec 2014 #2
Not to worry, Obama still has veto power Fumesucker Dec 2014 #3
Bwahahahahahahahahaha! nichomachus Dec 2014 #5
I suspect they put this in the spending bill that has to be signed in 48 hours or the government jwirr Dec 2014 #18
Correct. I saw an article today saying the budget deal benefits Republicans... riversedge Dec 2014 #31
Time to start a pool Doctor_J Dec 2014 #4
I am sorry to say, my guess would be no time soon. merrily Dec 2014 #26
When Americans can no longer get a new iWhatever. CrispyQ Dec 2014 #45
To many pension plans were burned by Wellstone ruled Dec 2014 #6
A thinking person would have to ask what the quid pro quo for the judge truedelphi Dec 2014 #43
And a judge has gone back and forth - already agreed w/ the City of Stockton Calif. that it truedelphi Dec 2014 #7
I have been retired for 4 years now and have a defined benifit plan. Every year doc03 Dec 2014 #8
PBGC already has the power to cut pensions Omaha Steve Dec 2014 #9
Im know the PBGC has cut some benfits that are above their limits doc03 Dec 2014 #10
From their FAQ kwijybo Dec 2014 #12
Good lord! Theft. How on earth can they do that? Ed Suspicious Dec 2014 #17
Heck, kwijybo Dec 2014 #23
My father-in-law worked for a company for the last 33 years. He'll be accessing his pension in the Ed Suspicious Dec 2014 #33
We went on stike in 1995 for 10 1/2 months in order to get a doc03 Dec 2014 #44
That Teamsters pension fund; office based in Rosemont has had numerous troubles lunasun Dec 2014 #11
This is our tax breaks at work ... aggiesal Dec 2014 #14
this is bullshit....if they can bail out the banks, they can bail out pension funds. antigop Dec 2014 #15
Exactly. Nt abelenkpe Dec 2014 #20
Absolutely. I Suppose Each Individual LarryNM Dec 2014 #22
Well, no. See the banks were deserving. "Workers", not so much. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #24
its not the same Amishman Dec 2014 #42
This is one of the most despicable... ReRe Dec 2014 #16
I have a feeling they are not done yet. They will get social security. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #25
You know... ReRe Dec 2014 #34
Yep. Ol' GHWB warned us he was creating a New World Order. I like the old one better. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #39
Well, I like the Old Order ReRe Dec 2014 #40
As long as they give the money the worker yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #29
I thought... ReRe Dec 2014 #35
That's what my company did benz380 Dec 2014 #38
What exactly would that mean? Hopefully they will get something! my morning pages Dec 2014 #19
Pensions are deferred compensation. Diremoon Dec 2014 #21
I wish I could remember who posted about a "bail in" that seems to be coming down the pike. merrily Dec 2014 #27
Here you go... from marmar one week ago... ReRe Dec 2014 #36
Thank you so much. This time I'll bookmark! merrily Dec 2014 #37
The need for lube and bending over has passed. SamKnause Dec 2014 #28
and this is before the GOP takes over the Senate. We cannot blame all our woes on liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #30
But but GummyBearz Dec 2014 #41
"Supporters said it was part of an effort to prevent a slow-motion collapse of a system..." Brickbat Dec 2014 #32
Beyond sickening to sacrifice and defer compensation only to get hosed. TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #46
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