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93. Hell, local and state dem politicians didn't even have the support of the DEM

Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:39 PM

Nov 2014

LEADERSHIP. They couldn't get money, stump speeches, signs, nothing. They were left swinging in the wind. In a couple of egregious cases, the Obama administration visibly detracted from their own dem candidates! What are the dem voters supposed to think about this?? And WE the voters are all at fault for being lazy/whiny/wanting a pony?? Get real. We have NO effective leadership, no dem machine to broadcast the message, nothing. I have come to the conclusion that there IS no coherent message, and that the big players like things just the way they are. What other conclusion can I come to?

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DWS needs to step down NOW !! [View all] Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 OP

She was one of the last remaining PUMAs to Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #1

A big Dem loss now helps Hillary in 2016. morningfog Nov 2014 #4

I don't think so. I think we overestimate the Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #20

Surely there is some point where the critical masses actually FEEL Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #25

Yes, it doesn't feel like the mid to late '90s because it isn't. amandabeech Nov 2014 #89

Define "better" - TBF Nov 2014 #116

I think we underestimate the downright meanness and selfishness of the American people. mountain grammy Nov 2014 #48

+100 narnian60 Nov 2014 #59

But....it doesn't have to be that way, does it? Can't someone bring out Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #61

Only if they can be deprogramed Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #137

Not in my corner of this country Tweedy Nov 2014 #83

You're overestimating the competence of the GOP! 7962 Nov 2014 #100

After what just happened tonight? I would challenge you to rethink this. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #102

Just watch the next 2 years. I believe I'll be right. 7962 Nov 2014 #109

I hope you're right! The corporate media has been on their side pushing their memes. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #112

Are you joking? You think the teabag mouthbreathers came out for this Nay Nov 2014 #79

Not so Tweedy Nov 2014 #86

abnd there we have the reason DonCoquixote Nov 2014 #94

If Obama bends on SS, TPP, and other crap he has a corporatist bent on, it could hurt her... cascadiance Nov 2014 #122

"SS, TPP, and other crap he has a corporatist bent on" - and how is Hillary different? djean111 Nov 2014 #127

That's my point! cascadiance Nov 2014 #128

Urban Dictionary definition of PUMA philly_bob Nov 2014 #113

Great idea flamingdem Nov 2014 #2

John Dean? Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #10

Shirley you mean Howard? Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #14

I was jesting, I meant JIM DEAN. Doh! My bad. Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #18

Jim Beam? Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #26

No, I think the Dem party is suffering from a massive hangover. Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #28

'Hair of the Dog' for party chair... nt appal_jack Nov 2014 #42

John Walker ChairmanAgnostic Nov 2014 #131

I'm in! Mr.Bill Nov 2014 #40

James Dean Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #138

Jimmy Dean? Voice for Peace Nov 2014 #47

You know what they say about politics being like making sausages..... nt Hekate Nov 2014 #76

Not the sausage guy! jmowreader Nov 2014 #78

Too much sausage, no doubt..... DeSwiss Nov 2014 #132

The next question comes to mind... jmowreader Nov 2014 #135

Don't forget the ravenous daughter! Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #139

Or the two dozen eggs and the T-bone steaks they eat along with the sausage jmowreader Nov 2014 #142

Talk about future heart attacks! And no health care to boot, I'd wager! Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #143

Bill Maher. Geez, I don't even know.. if there was someone Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #11

Before his hinee-hole of a son got elected I would have loved to have Mario in that position dorkzilla Nov 2014 #41

I hear ya D...but there is no one as eloquent, is there? nt Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #56

Oh, don't get me wrong, I love Mario dorkzilla Nov 2014 #74

M must have an anal retentive wife. Agree w/Saint Mario - wouldn't Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #82

I would love it!!! nt dorkzilla Nov 2014 #88

Actually I think my Rep. Chris Van Hollen would be good Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #24

Maybe Russ Feingold?... cascadiance Nov 2014 #124

I am stunned at the Dem incompetence at campaigning. morningfog Nov 2014 #3

So True Dat ! nt Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #27

I think politicians who have no support from constituents are going to lose Sarah Ibarruri Nov 2014 #44

They have to get that support. morningfog Nov 2014 #46

I don't agree. I think WE have got to get off our lazy asses... Sarah Ibarruri Nov 2014 #49

Most will not get off their ass. On either side. morningfog Nov 2014 #54

You betcha they do. I work with Republicans and Democrats. The Democrats are silent... Sarah Ibarruri Nov 2014 #60

Why do repubs trash the Dems? Because the candidates do. morningfog Nov 2014 #62

Excuse me? You're not understanding what I'm saying. Let me try to explain it differently. Sarah Ibarruri Nov 2014 #65

No. I understand what you are saying, I fundamentally disagree. morningfog Nov 2014 #66

In every elections there are losers and winners, but the degree of laziness and catatonic behavior Sarah Ibarruri Nov 2014 #67

Then we need better candidates. The candidate will light the fire. morningfog Nov 2014 #68

What you've just expressed is what I'm saying is the reason Democrats are losing... Sarah Ibarruri Nov 2014 #72

Then get better candidates. Sorry the reality of American politics requires good campaigners to morningfog Nov 2014 #73

Frankly, we need better dem LEADERSHIP. The pubs tell their minions Nay Nov 2014 #87

I agree with #1 and #5 AleksS Nov 2014 #92

Like you, I don't see a solution to this either. The pubs have co-opted the Nay Nov 2014 #96

That's not the way Dems are around here in Northern Cal padfun Nov 2014 #103

You could lead by example. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #140

Congratulations!!! Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #84

I agree she needs to go rbrnmw Nov 2014 #5

And take Pelosi and Reid's "leadership" with her. KeepItReal Nov 2014 #6

One of the worst chairpersons ever budkin Nov 2014 #7

The Democratic Party hasn't had a successful leader since Howard Dean derby378 Nov 2014 #8

Sigh. VenusRising Nov 2014 #15

Is there bad blood between Dean and Hillary? Yes - he is Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #16

There is. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #17

Agreed. Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #98

The Democrats really dropped the ball. Cleita Nov 2014 #9

Exactly. When candidates have no emotional and political support from their constituents... Sarah Ibarruri Nov 2014 #51

Hell, local and state dem politicians didn't even have the support of the DEM Nay Nov 2014 #93

Someone should have known better than to put her in that position. VenusRising Nov 2014 #12

Despite all that - which you know more about than I, she Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #21

Failure to perform. Jester Messiah Nov 2014 #13

+1,000,000 Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #71

what do you mean "even the press" barbtries Nov 2014 #19

you are right ! The only ones on TV who question are Bill Maher Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #22

You're kidding? Have you ever watched the Ed Show? Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #141

Very true, so LET'S BUY SOME FUCKING NETWORKS and make sure they Nay Nov 2014 #99

Except not go for the hate angle - go for the human kindness angle. nt Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #104

Bring back Dean! PAProgressive28 Nov 2014 #23

He's too real for them. Puzzledtraveller Nov 2014 #36

She has got to go! Lifelong Protester Nov 2014 #29

Did you see what she had the balls to post on her FB page last nite? jillan Nov 2014 #30

Sorry so big - didn't feel like fixing it. Feeling grumpy. jillan Nov 2014 #32

Grumpy? Only way is up from here. Shit...even I can't Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #34

Yes!! At least some good news. Finally!! jillan Nov 2014 #37

She did. You yourself just quoted her pushing it. (nt) Recursion Nov 2014 #118

K & R SunSeeker Nov 2014 #31

She's not the problem... Our candidates were idiots... Rhinodawg Nov 2014 #33

both. Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #35

Yes. 840high Nov 2014 #38

I said it before and I'll say it again... Sarah Ibarruri Nov 2014 #53

Said it before, sayin' it again Proud Public Servant Nov 2014 #39

True, progressoid Nov 2014 #120

I agree her tenure as party chair has been shitty. Dean needs to come back. craigmatic Nov 2014 #43

For the past three weeks, I (and many others in here) have been posting about how the world wide wally Nov 2014 #45

Think the synergy of our combined wisdom is very powerful. Untapped Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #63

Love your screen name world wide wally Nov 2014 #64

Do you get it? Long ago it was actually current - then DU Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #69

"We let the right define that Obama failed." redruddyred Nov 2014 #50

The only decent chairman the Dem Party has had in a long time tblue37 Nov 2014 #52

Dancing With the Stars? Throd Nov 2014 #55

She should have been drummed out of the party after refusing to endorse Ds is FLA hobbit709 Nov 2014 #57

She's no Howard Dean Old Nick Nov 2014 #58

Yup. quakerboy Nov 2014 #70

Any time the Democrats believe the GOP message, they lose. Gore1FL Nov 2014 #75

very true observations ! nt Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #85

Too true! This can't be said enough! AleksS Nov 2014 #95

I see her sitting across from a smiling Hillary with a nice salary in her future. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #77

That's the likely scenario IDemo Nov 2014 #123

Third way's role is to get Reps elected. HooptieWagon Nov 2014 #80

Fire her ass!!!!! Stop circling the wagons about these Republican wannabees, jesus whereisjustice Nov 2014 #81

This is crap. Beowulf42 Nov 2014 #90

Debbie Wasserman Schultz, sorry Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #101

Dancing with the Stars? maced666 Nov 2014 #91

She has been a disaster. Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #97

Today's Democrats are like cowering dogs Tsiyu Nov 2014 #105

Turd Way is over. Way over. Eridenus Nov 2014 #106

Or time to put up someone with balls - Like Ted Kennedy who used to say he Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #107

Appears Kay Hagan's available. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2014 #108

Where's Howard Dean when we need him? calimary Nov 2014 #110

If she had any honor she would resign on her own Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #111

Do we know if there's any effort to remove her or demand her resignation? calimary Nov 2014 #134

Time For All Democrats To Act Like They Are Democrats colsohlibgal Nov 2014 #114

They will force her campaign rhetoric a little to the left, but that is all. djean111 Nov 2014 #129

+1 davidpdx Nov 2014 #115

Dancing With the Stars? TransitJohn Nov 2014 #117

But DWS isn't the problem. She did exactly what she was hired for. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #119

Which is also why she stood in the way of impeaching Bush too... cascadiance Nov 2014 #125

Define yourself or be defined. nt Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #121

Step down my a** workinclasszero Nov 2014 #126

The constant barrage of fundraising E-mails was discouraging and offputting. Erose999 Nov 2014 #130

Well, changing riders might help a little..... DeSwiss Nov 2014 #133

the best time to plant a tree is twenty years ago... NuttyFluffers Nov 2014 #136