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In reply to the discussion: Misogyny should not be tolerated on DU [View all]Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)64. Fair enough. Then if sexism that benefits women isn't really sexism against men
Then it must follow that sexism that benefits men really isn't sexism against women. Assuming no double standard of course, which would be sexist (not sure if that would be benevolent or hostile, so perhaps you can fill in the blanks with an expert feminist opinion here).
Good to know.
Seems like you rather go down the road of diversion rather than support your "that has nothing to do with their masculinity" assertion, so I'm not sure you should be lecturing anyone on anything.
Just sayin'
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Wow! A clever repackaging of the old worn out, "I'm rubber, you're glue" line
Major Nikon
May 2014
#111
you didn't answer the question. why didn't you speak out against the post she's referring to?
CreekDog
May 2014
#270
So you ask a question, completely ignore the answer, and then answer it for me
Major Nikon
May 2014
#291
The position, as laid out above, was clearly not in relation to this thread only
joeglow3
May 2014
#274
so, we focus on the women and womens issues, we just do not use the word woman, we use people, so
seabeyond
May 2014
#462
THIS --> "You should start a foundation. Men against women laughing at men. You'll make money."
bettyellen
May 2014
#200
I remember when men outed themselves as rapists here and were allowed to stay
roguevalley
May 2014
#313
Do you have a link to the suggestion that all males be castrated at puberty? nt
el_bryanto
May 2014
#89
Thank you - that's pretty obscure and it would have taken me a long time to find it on my own
el_bryanto
May 2014
#104
Possibly because males have much more power to impose their hang ups than females?
el_bryanto
May 2014
#122
and maybe it is not meant to be funny. you know. ha ha. maybe it is meant for people to think
seabeyond
May 2014
#161
You appear to be not so masterfully dodging the issue, so here it is again
Major Nikon
May 2014
#252
I'm pretty sure if it were done like the post in question it would get the expected response
Major Nikon
May 2014
#293
well in response to genuine misandry I guess it could be: time to trot out Valerie Solanas again!
bettyellen
May 2014
#285
She said two lines down *in the same post* that it wasn't her point of view. nt
redqueen
May 2014
#185
Of course it is obscure to a community dedicated to and invested in ignoring it. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
May 2014
#256
How many regulars in the 2nd feminist group have been banned for being TERFs?
Major Nikon
May 2014
#31
About two years ago when Feldspar and Iverglas were there. Why? Is there some time limit you apply?
Violet_Crumble
May 2014
#93
you go thru your huge sighs... when we discuss issue. why? you say. WHY??? must we talk
seabeyond
May 2014
#333
The only bit I got was 'you and yours work very very hard at censoring.'
Violet_Crumble
May 2014
#416
Does that mean that "smearing" right wingers is fraught with danger, by that same logic?
kcr
May 2014
#107
I'm not sure what logic yr using. The Men's Group aren't right wingers...
Violet_Crumble
May 2014
#115
I'm sorry, but it appeard to me that when you jumped to the defense of someone who was
kcr
May 2014
#211
I notice you didn't provide a link with yr creative interpretation of what happened...
Violet_Crumble
May 2014
#415
How exactly do you give someone a "warm welcome" that never even crosses your threshold?
Major Nikon
May 2014
#86
those are actual issues. i do not think i have ever heard pb discuss actual issues.
seabeyond
May 2014
#108
i shorten everyones name winter. thanks for expressing the need for clarification. i will change
seabeyond
May 2014
#126
lol lol lol. omg. truly. the only posts i have read of yours is discussions of duers. that is it
seabeyond
May 2014
#179
ya. well. the efforts or whatever to get you kicked off, is not yours alone. for sure. lol. nt
seabeyond
May 2014
#206
Of course not, but the effort to get me kicked off simply for pointing out that fact
redqueen
May 2014
#208
yes. sure. there have been so many obvious. but... it also makes it interesting if
seabeyond
May 2014
#217
comtec, the guy who originally proposed that group, was banned here twice
Starry Messenger
May 2014
#212
so much. so much to remember. and thank you for reminding me. redq and i were probably
seabeyond
May 2014
#218
i do not think it was a matter of overestimating. i think it may be a learning curve
seabeyond
May 2014
#225
how are their opposition to pay equity measures, conspiracy theories about domestic
geek tragedy
May 2014
#268
We discussed this in the other thread. I made it clear to you I was responding
boston bean
May 2014
#443
I did NOT say many at all. I'm not giving you the benefit of the doubt any more...
Violet_Crumble
May 2014
#449
Are you replying to the wrong post? That's got nothing to do with the post you replied to...
Violet_Crumble
May 2014
#468
Since we agree MRA's are hate groups, and someone is using the same arguments
boston bean
May 2014
#437
What's going on is you seem to be following me round this thread yelling at me...
Violet_Crumble
May 2014
#438
I presume you think I'm not one of those people you could have a discussion with. Ok.
boston bean
May 2014
#442
Or maybe it should be called: "These women hating trolls should never have been on a liberal site,
Squinch
May 2014
#378
the definition has changed so much that how people answer the question is meaningless.
Demit
May 2014
#194
thank you for bringing this up. and let me say. i did not call me a feminist until about a year ago
seabeyond
May 2014
#215
I turned 18 in 1970, so was growing up in what they call the second wave of feminism.
Demit
May 2014
#236
and i was right in that time end of 70s, beginning of 80s when i had the most freedom ever, with the
seabeyond
May 2014
#240
I appreciate all three of you in this subthread, and the OP writer very much. Thanks for being here.
freshwest
May 2014
#23
no moderators, no rules, this is what you get. the minorities will always be at a disadvantage. and
seabeyond
May 2014
#25
my son and i were having that very conversation just yesterday. that the misogyny on du surpasses...
seabeyond
May 2014
#172
Countless posts on the same topic, like a dead horse beaten and dragged, reanimated, beaten again
Puzzledtraveller
May 2014
#5
Then stop whining about things that don't really exist - like "misandry."
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#14
Right. Cause stating that misogyny shouldn't be tolerated is such a controversial thing here.
Squinch
May 2014
#381
Oh I'm sorry, does this topic make you uncomfortable? I'll change the subject then....
Hekate
May 2014
#39
the same can be said about those of you that jump into womens issue threads for a little snark
seabeyond
May 2014
#118
Thats the guy that told me that i should be happy thats racism is almost over or something.
bravenak
May 2014
#125
And yet YOU seem to feel the need to discuss it in a great number of posts. Go figure.
Squinch
May 2014
#382
So should the anti Iraq war posts have been banned because they didn't solve the Iraq war?
Squinch
May 2014
#383
What happened these past days? I live where all those youngsters were slaughtered.
Hekate
May 2014
#51
Fuck yes, "I am tired of seeing the most odious, right-wing talking points re: women and feminism..
bettyellen
May 2014
#20
THANK YOU. The Democratic Platform is clear, sane and many of us expect to see it supported at DU.
freshwest
May 2014
#22
The best framework for gender unity I've seen on DU. Thank you. We need to know the enemy, and it's
ancianita
May 2014
#209
Helpful hint: It's not their maleness that makes them part of a socially disenfranchised class.
Spider Jerusalem
May 2014
#33
Paternalistic sexism benefits women in some instances, quelle surprise.
Spider Jerusalem
May 2014
#53
Fair enough. Then if sexism that benefits women isn't really sexism against men
Major Nikon
May 2014
#64
It isn't sexism against men because it's based on paternalistic assumptions about women.
Spider Jerusalem
May 2014
#69
For all your rhetoric you have yet to explain how this matters to the black male
Major Nikon
May 2014
#72
Do you remember how many weeks we tried to explain the harm of benevolent sexism?
redqueen
May 2014
#204
all three that snark most, and created such a battle at that time, has since used
seabeyond
May 2014
#220
Spider called out a fraud that attempted to show slavery was a sign of misandre
intaglio
May 2014
#101
racism gets discounted in importance by the same six guys who discount the relevance of sexism here
bettyellen
May 2014
#283
They were disenfranchised because they weren't white. Not because they were male. n/t
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#50
His discomfort and denial require that we change the subject to spare his feelings....
Hekate
May 2014
#41
79 female representatives out of 435, 20 female senators out of 100...
Spider Jerusalem
May 2014
#67
wow. don. and they aer right. i am exhausted. all of us are. i know too many on du are. and still
seabeyond
May 2014
#114
male speech. you are for more male speech, or males right to speech. this is an interesting
seabeyond
May 2014
#221
on the contrary. you and i disagree just that much. but, no. you like challenging thought?
seabeyond
May 2014
#284
Generally, "misandry" refers to the hatred and oppression of men on a genotypic basis.
redqueen
May 2014
#214
but tv shows can just call women liars as if we all accept that. chuckle chuckle. no bashing there
seabeyond
May 2014
#230
While the term is a real one, I agree it's not a systematic form of bigotry...
Violet_Crumble
May 2014
#150
Ahhh, you haven't been to a typical family court then, have you? LMAO. ;) n/t
Darkhawk32
May 2014
#336
it's just one small handful of clowns making it look bad by posting over and over....
dionysus
May 2014
#158
Remember, though, that one outrageous statement against women does not a misogynist make.
ancianita
May 2014
#202
Sorry, I don't get your meaning. I was just making the case for being judicious.
ancianita
May 2014
#246
well, that is why we cannot, like, you know, feed ourselves or choose our sex partners, ya know.
seabeyond
May 2014
#235
As a sentient being, a thinking, feeling, perceptive member of the Human Race allow me to
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#229
So if I understand correctly, misogyny should not be tolerated because it is totally
hughee99
May 2014
#259
In the present context, trying to pry into posts discussing misogyny and divert the discussion
Maedhros
May 2014
#298
I think you are being purposefully obtuse if you can't put this OP in the context of the ongoing
Maedhros
May 2014
#307
Not counting GD, which seems to be little more than overflow from some of the others
Major Nikon
May 2014
#305
Not agreeing with feminists on every single thing doesn't automatically equal misogyny
davidn3600
May 2014
#334
I wish someone would write the history of how the HOF group came to exist.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
May 2014
#358
Debate? I agree with you... You defined what an MRA is as well as defined yourself as one.
Ohio Joe
May 2014
#495
dont you think that women should pay more in health care? dont you think there is not a pay
seabeyond
May 2014
#498
asking a question is the opposite of putting words in your mouth. it is asking a question for
seabeyond
May 2014
#501
To be fair to old Vinnie, I think the band in that picture is actually Nitro.
opiate69
May 2014
#369
Oooh, the "why isn't there a white history month?" argument. Always a winner. nt
LeftyMom
May 2014
#335
<squawk!> MRA! <squawk!> You are a one-trick pony. And it's not a very good trick.
Comrade Grumpy
May 2014
#354
I know there's a "hot celebrities" thread there, which is like the WORST THING EVAH
Warren DeMontague
May 2014
#484
I'm not sure how one can speak "in defense of all women" without trying to speak for all women
Major Nikon
May 2014
#340
Very well stated and thank you for providing us with voices we can all unite behind...
cascadiance
May 2014
#379
I'm not sure it's our place to fix all the broken people in the world
passiveporcupine
May 2014
#329
When women and people of color had NO rights, they were very afraid. What did those who were
Squinch
May 2014
#386
...unless it is supporting a candidate for national political office and the year is 2008.
McCamy Taylor
May 2014
#397
It's so adorable how a few people here simply cannot resist trying to derail these discussions
redqueen
May 2014
#486
like chris hayes says, wow the way some men get so worked up over a few women.
seabeyond
May 2014
#493