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DeSwiss

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75. This is to be expected......

Reply to Aerows (Reply #67)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 06:43 PM

Apr 2014

Last edited Mon Apr 21, 2014, 03:27 PM - Edit history (1)

...of a people who live in FEAR.

- Unfortunately. Because there really is nothing to fear at all.

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For those that call Edward Snowden a Traitor [View all] Aerows Apr 2014 OP

I called Lt. Watada a Blue Falcon under Bush. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #1

Was there a point you were trying to make? sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #118

Read the last sentence of my response again. eom MohRokTah Apr 2014 #119

I read it. I saw you state your OPINION. Not a surprising opinion btw, which has zero sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #121

Snowden is not a whistleblower. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #126

Unfortunately for your assessment of the situation, a majority of the American people say he IS a sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #127

I seriously doubt that. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #129

The Constitution which is STILL the law of this land, despite your distaste for it, as you sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #132

I didn't read beyond this blatantly false statement. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #133

Reading is essential. The Constitution also says that no one will be judged guilty sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #137

Snowden has not been judged guilty by the federal government MohRokTah Apr 2014 #138

Its obvious his mind is closed... Rockyj Apr 2014 #150

'We need to get rid of the Patriot Act'! Absolutely, I thought that was what we were doing sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #180

It is the Ouroboros Aerows Apr 2014 #183

As always, Sabrina Aerows Apr 2014 #164

Thank you Aerows, coming from you that means a lot. sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #178

Keep the faith, my friend Aerows Apr 2014 #181

I will, you too! n/t sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #190

I do not see anything intelligent about collecting Rockyj Apr 2014 #145

You failed to read the post. eom MohRokTah Apr 2014 #147

No, that person read the post Aerows Apr 2014 #155

being baited and trolled is FUN! eom MohRokTah Apr 2014 #156

Apparently since you like doing it. n/t Aerows Apr 2014 #158

being falsely accused is FUN! eom MohRokTah Apr 2014 #159

eom went out with plonk n/t Aerows Apr 2014 #161

Fuck Comrade Eddy...nt SidDithers Apr 2014 #2

Oh dear. Again with the "comrade" crap elias49 Apr 2014 #10

I don't think I've ever called him Comrade, until that dumbass thread yesterday... SidDithers Apr 2014 #11

It was dumb to you zeemike Apr 2014 #25

Comrade Snowden support is,,, Cryptoad Apr 2014 #80

Dream On billhicks76 Apr 2014 #81

"dropping like a rock!" zeemike Apr 2014 #82

'A majority of Americans view Snowden as a Whistle Blower' sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #131

By definition of Whistle Blower Cryptoad Apr 2014 #140

Not my proclamation, it is the proclamation of a Majority of the American People. sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #142

No, it was just dumb. Bobbie Jo Apr 2014 #124

That would help Snowden's reputation enormously. sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #122

vaht? vasyou shaying shumthing, about comrades.. to meeee? dionysus Apr 2014 #143

Repeating the same ad hominem attack endlessly, but for what purpose? nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #19

The hominem attacks on both sides of this one. How many of the Snowden folliwers Thinkingabout Apr 2014 #46

Ah yes the "well they did it so we can do it." argument. If you hate Snowden, I get it. rhett o rick Apr 2014 #93

What is wrong with posting the facts, I read a lot about Clapper lying Thinkingabout Apr 2014 #98

Serious violations of the US Constitution have been exposed. Who is responsible for sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #128

You said it, I don't care about the messenger, as in Snowden. When he goes on trial bringing in the Thinkingabout Apr 2014 #134

Still nothing about the actual criminals. About the crimes committed by Bush's NSA sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #135

Our prisons are full of criminals, that is not what is in question here, if you want to say it is Thinkingabout Apr 2014 #136

Snowden is a Whistle Blower who has exposed serious violations of the Constitutional Rights of the sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #139

Are you only listening to a portion of the people who post on this site to Thinkingabout Apr 2014 #152

The US Government has been conducting a massive program spying on the American people. sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #125

Lol! zappaman Apr 2014 #83

If you are googling my name, the LOL is on you. nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #95

If it hadn't been him, it would have been someone else probably. Hissyspit Apr 2014 #33

Another Disinfo Artist billhicks76 Apr 2014 #37

Welcome to DU... SidDithers Apr 2014 #38

One has to wonder why you have such an emotional investment in this. hootinholler Apr 2014 #68

yeah, considering.....nt grasswire Apr 2014 #188

You are becoming a parody on this topic! nt Logical Apr 2014 #115

SDS! n/t sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #120

HAIL HYDRA! whatchamacallit Apr 2014 #148

they aren't mutually exclusive arely staircase Apr 2014 #3

It isn't the security state Aerows Apr 2014 #4

omfg nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #5

Yep. Aerows Apr 2014 #7

what does the S in NSA stand for? arely staircase Apr 2014 #8

It certainly isn't security Aerows Apr 2014 #12

good googly moogly nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #15

Exactly Aerows Apr 2014 #21

DU? nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #22

I really can't interpret this Aerows Apr 2014 #99

LOL Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #13

you ALL are wasting your time "prosecuting" Snowden here grasswire Apr 2014 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #48

+1...nt SidDithers Apr 2014 #61

Such Paulie Apr 2014 #89

More like sucks Aerows Apr 2014 #163

I think most DU'ers want the surveillance state reined in with more oversight etc. KittyWampus Apr 2014 #6

I don't think we need to revamp our concept of privacy Aerows Apr 2014 #9

We don't need to "revamp" anything. bvar22 Apr 2014 #72

And there is that Aerows Apr 2014 #90

+1000 Mojorabbit Apr 2014 #107

X 1000 Aerows Apr 2014 #110

And yet you totally discount the corporate infringement on our privacy which I mentioned. KittyWampus Apr 2014 #114

Corporations can only hire and fire us Aerows Apr 2014 #157

And one of the nuances is Snowden's . . . brush Apr 2014 #35

Cue the feigned outrage Aerows Apr 2014 #42

Yeah but now our enemies have details on how our international covert operations were run. brush Apr 2014 #55

Here is a rock Aerows Apr 2014 #57

You want proof about Snowden coughing up interational covert ops details? brush Apr 2014 #58

He gave too many covert leaks when Aerows Apr 2014 #66

Its not about peeing creeksneakers2 Apr 2014 #69

Every single post anti-Snowden Aerows Apr 2014 #71

The NSA spies on our enemies creeksneakers2 Apr 2014 #79

You said it correctly Aerows Apr 2014 #100

YAY!!! vlakitti Apr 2014 #70

And one more thing if you wanna go there. . . brush Apr 2014 #88

Depth and Breadth of the information gathering Aerows Apr 2014 #101

What are you talking about? brush Apr 2014 #117

that's called cognitive dissonance, not nuance. nashville_brook Apr 2014 #14

right because if I am glad he started a conversation on NSA phone data collection arely staircase Apr 2014 #16

wow, you apparently have deep surveillance state info that no one else has nashville_brook Apr 2014 #24

no. I just keep up with current events nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #32

If you kept up with current events Aerows Apr 2014 #45

Well, if you were arguing honestly Aerows Apr 2014 #28

uh he committed the crime in China by doing an interview with a paper there arely staircase Apr 2014 #34

Proof n/t Aerows Apr 2014 #40

here I put it in an OP so I don't have to keep doing people's homework for them arely staircase Apr 2014 #47

"Here is some more Aerows Apr 2014 #63

uh huh arely staircase Apr 2014 #64

Hey, let's play faulty sources Aerows Apr 2014 #166

so the interview is fake? nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #167

RT? n/t Aerows Apr 2014 #168

what about it? nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #169

OK. Aerows Apr 2014 #171

The proof is right here on DU. See link ... brush Apr 2014 #97

yes, proof please? grasswire Apr 2014 #50

he gave an interview to the newspaper. they make that up? all those quotes are false? arely staircase Apr 2014 #53

"I pulled it out of my butt Aerows Apr 2014 #54

Yes some are, but not those that disparage Snowden obsessively. Originally they denied there was rhett o rick Apr 2014 #23

fuck snowden arely staircase Apr 2014 #27

Snowden Is A Hero billhicks76 Apr 2014 #39

and yet here you are arely staircase Apr 2014 #49

I think he is the one Aerows Apr 2014 #77

Sounds like something someone in Jr. High might say. nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #94

It's disingenuous. Aerows Apr 2014 #31

They choose to side with the authoritarian power. It makes them feel safe. nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #96

It is a travesty Aerows Apr 2014 #103

I am afraid that many Americans have been raised to blindly follow authority. nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #105

That bothers me Aerows Apr 2014 #112

Our children see a lot of authoritarianism as they grow. Parents, teachers, rhett o rick Apr 2014 #113

One of democracy's greatest traitor was Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #17

and by "snowden's not socrates" you mean he is 'totally socrates' arely staircase Apr 2014 #20

You really aren't good at things Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #43

Getting emotional Aerows Apr 2014 #51

you said he isn't then wrote a long post implying they were similar nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #52

+1 zeemike Apr 2014 #36

He has not been charged with treason treestar Apr 2014 #18

A very good topic and points. Though I wish Snowden (and wikileaks) would release everything. Sunlei Apr 2014 #26

All of the files obtained by Snowden have been handed over to Greenwald, Poitras et al. Maedhros Apr 2014 #56

you trust all those people with all those files? How do you know he didn't share with others? Sunlei Apr 2014 #60

SharePoint files Aerows Apr 2014 #62

I trust journalists more than I trust the Government when it comes to information regarding Maedhros Apr 2014 #92

Not just, Greenwald and Poitras. I don't trust Snowden on who he shared files with &who else got him Sunlei Apr 2014 #106

I trust those that make Aerows Apr 2014 #108

Of course you don't. Maedhros Apr 2014 #111

The only "evidence" they have Aerows Apr 2014 #170

It's the essence of propaganda. Maedhros Apr 2014 #173

Exactly Aerows Apr 2014 #174

I have a friend who describes himself as politically aware and an extreme Liberal - Maedhros Apr 2014 #175

That observation Aerows Apr 2014 #176

Oh, the NSA is wonderful. I hope they have a Happy Easter and find all of their hidden eggs. Lint Head Apr 2014 #29

Agreed. MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #30

If they aren't collecting said surveillance information Aerows Apr 2014 #41

It is my belief that the NSA is collecting all this information to use in future prosecutions Maedhros Apr 2014 #59

There are building old fashion Hoover files on anyone who is anyone, or might be someone GoneFishin Apr 2014 #85

U.S.: Russia Withheld Intel on Boston Bomb Suspect sheshe2 Apr 2014 #151

Are you claiming that Russia didn't warn the US well before the bombings? nt MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #177

Did you read it? Did you? sheshe2 Apr 2014 #179

So they were told of the danger, but not in the right words. MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #182

You know what Manny... sheshe2 Apr 2014 #184

As I said, law enforcement might have done the right thing wrt Tsarnaev MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #185

The TRAITORS are the ones he exposed. DeSwiss Apr 2014 #65

It frightens me Aerows Apr 2014 #67

This is to be expected...... DeSwiss Apr 2014 #75

Actually, things have changed - A LOT! jazzimov Apr 2014 #73

"Traitor" isn't the right term. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #74

Don't worry, Aerows. When the next Rethug is elected president LittleBlue Apr 2014 #76

I tend to believe Aerows Apr 2014 #78

I Used To Fear Conservative Republicans... Now I Have To Worry About Conservative Democrats Too... WillyT Apr 2014 #84

Conservative Democrats are more troubling. At least when a Republican is trying to undermine GoneFishin Apr 2014 #86

Exactly... ConReps Will Attack You From The Front... ConDems Will Stab You In The Back... WillyT Apr 2014 #87

I fear people who label without having a clue Skidmore Apr 2014 #116

So what's the excuse for pulling the cover on legit foreign intelligence operations? Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #91

What is your excuse Aerows Apr 2014 #102

I've long since denounced those Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #123

Wait ... Aerows Apr 2014 #144

Team sports. The same people who boycotted the Dixie Chicks say worse about Obama. cui bono Apr 2014 #104

Agreed. Aerows Apr 2014 #109

+1 Zorra Apr 2014 #130

Exists to make the world safer Aerows Apr 2014 #165

Snowden is not a traitor per US law, Progressive dog Apr 2014 #141

And you can't stand the fact Aerows Apr 2014 #154

Why do you suppose Snowden fans continue to look for reasons Progressive dog Apr 2014 #189

You know why Aerows Apr 2014 #191

Snowden is an accused criminal no matter who is in the White House and Progressive dog Apr 2014 #192

Kick Otelo Apr 2014 #146

Thank you! Aerows Apr 2014 #172

Edward Snowden is a trader.... penultimate Apr 2014 #149

i just don't understand the hate against Edward Snowden Obnoxious_One Apr 2014 #153

Welcome to DU Aerows Apr 2014 #160

I want to reiterate something Aerows Apr 2014 #162

NSA and corrupt government, courts are the "traitors" ... Mondavi Apr 2014 #186

Americans seem to be ignorant of The Stasi State. Don't know why, it was drilled in our heads in 2banon Apr 2014 #187