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go west young man

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Thu Mar 6, 2014, 10:48 AM Mar 2014

Ukraines grassy knoll (Graphic) evidence police weren't the only snipers. [View all]

Maidan. The Inconvenient Truth : shooting in the back http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5dc_1393953567 (Graphic video warning)

This video proves that shots were fired on the advancing protest party from the rear and clearly points out bullet trajectories (from the Hotel Ukraine) as well as impact areas.

You Tube version (also graphic)

The video coincides with the release of a hacked EU minister phone call discussing the subject. Link to You Tube video of ministerial phone call and the Guardian UK story related to the subject.

Skip to 2 minute mark for start of conversation. (Also a graphic warning as video shows pictures of individuals suffering)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/05/ukraine-bugged-call-catherine-ashton-urmas-paet

The Ministers give clear impressions of what they think of the protest leaders saying " All these guys have a dirty past", "They can't be trusted", "The trust level is absolutely low", "They send uninvited visitors in the night to beat parliament members" "They beat a parliament member in the streets". "They can't send a reform package yet due to the level of trust it will end badly". "They have no partner to partner with". They also discuss the doctor who treated the shooting victims in the video above saying she believes the same individuals were shooting police and protesters on both sides. Skip to 8:20 mark in the You Tube video to go straight to this quote. They also say the new coalition doesn't want to investigate who was doing the shooting.

The theory put forth is these individuals being shot were patsies murdered by their own side in order to blame Ukrainian authorities and gather the sentiment of the rest of the world to the protesters side. There is some video out there that shows police sniping in certain areas so of course they are not blameless either. However, the video above lends credence to the possibility those individuals were murdered in cold blood by their own side.

One thing of note is that the US media has chosen not to cover any of this subject. Neither the leaked phone calls or the possibility of the protest leaders murdering their own people for international support. DU'ers can watch the videos and decide if they think it's all BS. The concerns the EU ministers have should be taken into account however, when considering the fact the US media has chosen not to cover that aspect of the crisis. The US and EU are planning to give billions of dollars of US taxpayer money to these individuals. American have a right to know this info and our media should be covering it.
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Maidan that does not show on TV - with english subtitles romans74 Mar 2014 #1
The English subtitles appear to be missing from the videos. go west young man Mar 2014 #2
Just curious. Did you know St. Paul was referring to Mosaic Law Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #6
New BBC report verifies snipers were in the Hotel Ukraine behind protesters. go west young man Mar 2014 #3
Wow. That's interesting. Sheds a bit of a different light on things. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #4
Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #5
And the BBC report in post #3? Any comment? Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #7
Yes. The reporter said the vast majority of firing Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #9
And what if they were killing their own people go west young man Mar 2014 #14
I'm sure you know what you're saying is a load of shit Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #16
Looks like Pretzel Warrior has 5 locked posts and is gone again for a while! n-t Logical Mar 2014 #17
Just want you to know.... go west young man Mar 2014 #18
I think he is banned for a while. 5 locked posts. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #19
I don't mind conspiracy theories. go west young man Mar 2014 #12
We've seen this play so many times before. Venezuela April 2002 for example Catherina Mar 2014 #8
Over and over and yet the gullible buy this madness malaise Mar 2014 #10
That's the beauty of it Catherina Mar 2014 #11
Holy Shit! newthinking Mar 2014 #13
Another video laying out the possibilities. go west young man Mar 2014 #15
ABC news covers the subject. go west young man Mar 2014 #20
Additional BBC footage of Hotel Ukraine sniper. go west young man Mar 2014 #21
New information coming to light from Der Spiegel. go west young man Apr 2014 #22
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