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In reply to the discussion: Atheist teen kicks some ass in the name of the separation of church and state [View all]Quantess
(27,630 posts)108. Nobody ever said atheism should be promoted at school, either.
The atheist equivalent of that "heavenly father" sign at school (one that we will never see because it would violate the separation of church & state) would say something like, "all you have is your mortal life on earth, no god, no jesus, so make the best of it before you die because that's all there is".
When a school puts up a sign like that, you can say that's an "atheist theocracy" the school is promoting. But not until then.
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WilliamPitt
Jan 2012
OP
you rock girl!...They just shudder and grab the pitchforks when their myths are challenged
snooper2
Jan 2012
#1
GO GIRL! My youngest is an eclectic pagan. Freedom OF religion also means FROM it.
HopeHoops
Jan 2012
#7
No it doesn't, you can't add words to the Bill of Rights that take rights away.
Kurmudgeon
Jan 2012
#51
Then brand them by their tax number, leave everyone else and their freedom alone.
Kurmudgeon
Feb 2012
#181
So you get to choose none for others too then, funny how you interpret freedom.
Kurmudgeon
Jan 2012
#98
Right, it's 'intolerance' to say that prayer doesn't belong in public schools.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#103
And then the calling of the names begins, because you have reason on your side, eh?
Kurmudgeon
Feb 2012
#182
Atheism in the none of the above choice, and it shouldn't get special treatment either.
Kurmudgeon
Feb 2012
#168
You can have speech and assembly. No one is stopping you from having speech and assembly.
Gore1FL
Feb 2012
#193
Funny how you only feel this way when it's against Christianity, prejudice much?
Kurmudgeon
Feb 2012
#171
If we're talking about public schools, fuck YES it is freedom FROM religion.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#95
Okay. What part of STATE SPONSORED PRAYER IN A PUBLIC SCHOOL don't you understand?
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#101
"the prayer’s presence at Cranston High School West was unconstitutional" - Why so obtuse?
cleanhippie
Feb 2012
#186
Of course not. He has clearly demonstarted on several occasions that he only feels this way
cleanhippie
Jan 2012
#122
Sure, why not? And it's a freedom to be Christian or whatever you want country.
Kurmudgeon
Feb 2012
#165
When someone tries to legislate or force christians into hiding, please let us know.
cleanhippie
Feb 2012
#174
As you have demonstarted, that only applies when its YOUR religion that is infringing.
cleanhippie
Jan 2012
#120
Its the same mentality as those who say "Its just a little prayer! Just sit quietly and meditate or
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#33
Or brand anything that offends you "religion" then remove it. Good tactic, worked for the Romans.
Kurmudgeon
Feb 2012
#178
Oh, you are so right, this banner that read "school prayer" and started with "our Heavenly Father"
cleanhippie
Feb 2012
#192
Yes. How sad that someone risks threats of violence to stand up for the constitution
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#19
Well, you have a list of quotes there, which proves you have a list of quotes.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#44
If they want prayer to be a part of their kids education, send them to private religious schools.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#65
Same reason that school segregation didn't end until Brown v. Board of Education.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#70
"Most people" also didn't think the constitution precluded school segregation. And they were wrong.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#145
So I take it that you are okay with the Koran being taught in public schools as the truth, then?
Arugula Latte
Jan 2012
#137
that's just it - OUR tax dollars. Not yours, not only the atheists or agnostics tax dollars.
hfojvt
Jan 2012
#60
So that's your argument? That it was legal in the 17 and 1800s? So was slavery.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2012
#61
YOUR churches are ALREADY tax exempt. That's more than fucking plenty, bub.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#71
my oh my, what twisting you have exhibited... sorry, the state doesn't promote christianity
fascisthunter
Jan 2012
#85
Didn't someone big in your religion say something about giving unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's? n/t
Gore1FL
Jan 2012
#110
OK. I'm the new principal of your kid's school. I just decided we're going to recite Buddhist
lindysalsagal
Jan 2012
#96
Notice how quiet he gets as soon as you make the religion being forced NOT his religion?
cleanhippie
Jan 2012
#123
Buddhist, it is! (On the school wall:) "O Amida, Oneness of Life and Light,
lindysalsagal
Feb 2012
#194
Thank you for at least acknowledging that you have no idea how things work.
cleanhippie
Jan 2012
#162
At least I'm not calling you names. And no one is forced, believe what you wish.
Kurmudgeon
Feb 2012
#185
They should be hailing her as a hero of American values. Must take a brave person to
yellowcanine
Jan 2012
#15
I am very proud of her. She gets it. Those who would tag her as an "evil little thing"
callous taoboy
Jan 2012
#17
Because obviously, only religious folks would follow such rules.....
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Jan 2012
#153
I believe that Congress should make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
Nye Bevan
Jan 2012
#41
The SCOTUS has repeatedly affirmed that the Establishment Clause pertains to prayer in public school
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#43
Not only that, Warren, but in the town where I reside even tax payer funded property
callous taoboy
Jan 2012
#45
The Bush v. Gore decision was handled in such a way to SPECIFICALLY preclude establishing precedence
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#68
No, and you are free to personally pray anywhere your private individual wants.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#89
That "innocuous banner" is 8 foot tall headed with "School Prayer" in RED
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#91
Isn't funny how believers are constantly reassuring non-believers about how harmless and friendly
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#94
too bad! Use your own private property to shove religion down somebody's throat
fascisthunter
Jan 2012
#48
I don't have a heavenly father. Nor do I have a fairy god mother, a tooth fairy, a santa clause
lindysalsagal
Jan 2012
#97
poor, poor religious folks. Not allowed to use tax dollars to shove religion down everyone's throat
fascisthunter
Jan 2012
#46
Cranston is nuts. As a Christian I agree completely with Jessica. I do my own praying and I do it
jwirr
Jan 2012
#53
No, you're correct. We should all "happily accept" court decisions regarding what is Constitutional.
Nye Bevan
Jan 2012
#124
Every year my kids' public school has a concert to celebrate Hannukah and Christmas,
Nye Bevan
Jan 2012
#129
Oh, so someone standing up for their 1st Amendment rights is a "hissy fit" now?
Goblinmonger
Jan 2012
#132
Evil Little Thing tshirts for sale, proceeds go to a scholarship fund for Jessica
Nevernose
Jan 2012
#154