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In reply to the discussion: And old lady venting on Choice and the consequences of the loss of it [View all]Caliman73
(11,767 posts)Conservatives often say that "Liberals are shoving ideology down our throats" which is really stupid since most Liberals want people to have the right to exist and do things for themselves in their daily lives. Like you said, on the issue of reproductive choice the operative word is CHOICE. Liberals do not tell other people YOU HAVE TO GET AN ABORTION. If you don't like abortion, don't get one, tell your family and friends not to get one. If you are religious, then pray to your god and have your all powerful, all knowing, omnipresent god stop abortion. We (Liberals) are not forcing anything on anyone. We want people to have a choice about what to do.
On Race and Gender, Liberals want people to simply accept and allow people to be who they are without discrimination. Conservatives say, "Cis, Straight White men are the only group you can discriminate against" which is patently false, you can't discriminate legally against people based on race, sexuality, etc... Conservatives see challenges to their identity being dominant as discrimination. Because White men receive criticism and some social and economic backlash, in the form of protest and boycott against malicious actors; they say they are under attack because they are White Men. No, you are being criticized and receiving and economic admonition because you are acting like an asshole. That is how things work. If I own a store, and I say and do things that people don't like, then I expect some people are going to not want to buy from me or support me. That is just life.
Conservatives absolutely want to dictate to others what is acceptable or not. Liberals also have ideals on how society should look. The difference is that Conservatives actually want to actively dictate and force people to live the way they see fit, while Liberals tend to be more passive and within guidelines, want people to think and act as they wish, as long as they are not actively hurting others.
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