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DemocraticPatriot

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14. Statistical research has proven that MORE 2008 Hillary supporters failed to vote
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 03:23 AM
Mar 2024

for Obama in the 2008 General election, than Sanders supporters failed to vote for Hillary in the General election in 2016.

Luckily, in 2008, the number of Hillary supporters who failed to 'come home' for the General election was vastly overwhelmed by the massive increase in turnout of African-Americans voters for Obama--- which caused my longest wait to vote EVER, in November 2008, about an hour and a half!!! (The line was stretching out of the building... before and after, I had always finished within 30 minutes and probably 20.)

Fearing an 'only natural' fall-off of A.A. turnout in 2016, without the historic first-time African-American nominee at the top of the ballot, I advocated for an African-American vice presidential nominee to be chosen--- but instead, Sec. Clinton chose someone who was considered a *safe* (WHITE--- AND BORING!!!) choice-- and then even failed to campaign much or at all in the African-American urban strongholds in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin--- instead reaching for victories in red states which she could not win... (President Biden made a different and bolder choice, and the results speak for themselves.)


Going back to your original point--- yes, there were 'many' Sanders supporters who voted for Trump--- I classify them as the 'older angry white man'--- but Bernie Sanders had a large percentage of independent voters supporting him in his race for the Democratic nomination that year (also "documented" )--- thus, the Democratic party was not *entitled* to their votes in the General election---

even if ideologically it would have made more sense for those independent Sanders voters to support the Democratic nominee in the GE, I think that most of those were 'non-ideological' indy voters--- they were instead 'emotional voters', and they were angry, and after Sanders was defeated, they chose to support 'the angry candidate' left to them in the General election, which was Trump.....

but the vast majority of those voters had never been committed to the Democratic party, even though they had voted in some Democratic primaries....







Clearly 'uncommitted' knew they were 'speaking' in the Democratic PRIMARY, elleng Mar 2024 #1
The uncommitted voters I've seen interviewed have uniformly been adamant they won't vote for Biden in the general AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2024 #3
Irrelevant. Unless you've seen thousands interviewed, it doesn't mean much. All Mixed Up Mar 2024 #4
However, it was documented that many Sanders supporters in 2016 did vote for Trump question everything Mar 2024 #8
What we know is that a lot of these voters voted for Biden in 2020. All Mixed Up Mar 2024 #10
All I know is that it feels like... Pototan Mar 2024 #11
Probably are. All Mixed Up Mar 2024 #12
Statistical research has proven that MORE 2008 Hillary supporters failed to vote DemocraticPatriot Mar 2024 #14
Not what I've seen. elleng Mar 2024 #17
They certainly will. One woman was interviewed, she was not going to vote for Biden question everything Mar 2024 #5
Not from what I've seen. 'Some' apparently not aware of 'programs' of the alternative. elleng Mar 2024 #18
I'm so tired of people who don't understand the difference between primary voting and general election voting. Ms. Toad Mar 2024 #16
The biggest threat to Biden's reelection isn't Trump - it's undecideds staying home or voting third party. All Mixed Up Mar 2024 #2
My point, exactly Pototan Mar 2024 #6
President Biden needs to reach out hard to African-Americans DemocraticPatriot Mar 2024 #15
Anyone not voting for Biden in 2024 is supporting Trump -- PERIOD. W_HAMILTON Mar 2024 #7
if he pulls off a cease fire, we have no worries. mopinko Mar 2024 #9
I am doing something Pototan Mar 2024 #13
you're preaching to the choir. mopinko Mar 2024 #19
The choir's all we need Pototan Mar 2024 #20
i agree it's good for the choir to practice, but mopinko Mar 2024 #21
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