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ExWhoDoesntCare

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78. The problem is that we're running out of forests
Sat May 20, 2023, 01:06 AM
May 2023

Switching back to paper-based products will create problems of a different kind that will be just as damaging to the environment. Even switching to cloth or metal-based packaging have their own unique availability and environmental challenges (for example: recycling metal can be a very nasty process).

It keeps coming back to buying local, and using things like reusable cloth bags as much as possible. I'm rather angry with my local grocer for not accepting reusable bags anymore for curbside. Used to, I kept instructions in the "notes" section to come get the reusable bags I kept in my trunk to load up my order before bringing it to the car. They stopped doing that during COVID and never let us go back to it.

What's most aggravating is that I had to replace my original set of bags because they finally became too tatty to use anymore. That was about two weeks before COVID struck. So I have all these new bags all but unused.

Grrrrrrrr

What particular item pushed you over the edge? W_HAMILTON May 2023 #1
The fact that I am old ito remember things being sold without plastic wrapped around Stargazer99 May 2023 #7
I share your thoughts on this Mossfern May 2023 #23
I'm with you also. llmart May 2023 #25
You, me and all the rest of us born in the last century. I remember japple May 2023 #30
+1 llmart May 2023 #32
"As a woman: Key fob in one pocket and card... in another." Beartracks May 2023 #40
Ha! llmart May 2023 #43
Pockets are essential for me. And if the women's clothing won't provide japple May 2023 #61
Even meat was not wrapped in plastic. wnylib May 2023 #44
I agree with your last sentence. llmart May 2023 #56
I'm 70 and remember the 'butcher paper' feeling slick. Talitha May 2023 #75
Butcher paper is still around, some for the same uses as always, some less noticable JHB May 2023 #82
Thanks!! Talitha May 2023 #83
Your comment that we are on the edge of ruining our last remaining forests for toilet paper made me Jack the Greater May 2023 #48
Yep, the Canadian forests are probably the last ones in North America japple May 2023 #62
I agree, and some of this plastic crap is downright dangerous to open. GoodRaisin May 2023 #63
I remember getting bologna and other meats in a paper wrap. roamer65 May 2023 #71
To come at it from another direction, what ISN'T packed in plastic? Scrivener7 May 2023 #12
Amazon (yes I know) has made some attempts for recyclable and "frustration free" packaging. forgotmylogin May 2023 #49
So, as I said, pretty much everything in plastic. Scrivener7 May 2023 #54
I have a box of Quaker oats (old fashioned not the quick) and it's in that familiar tube box MichaelSoE May 2023 #79
Trader Joe's granola Retrograde May 2023 #18
The stupid plastic liners inside every box of cereal, crackers, and cookies AllyCat May 2023 #33
I hate those plastic bags for cereal! IL Dem May 2023 #76
K/R Enuff! plastic is devouring the world. appalachiablue May 2023 #2
I remember my grandmother ran a small dress shop in a tiny farm town and wrapped hlthe2b May 2023 #3
That won't work in a shipping container from China Hassin Bin Sober May 2023 #6
Then maybe it is time we produce in the US and stop pushing the profit value only Stargazer99 May 2023 #9
Some plastic packaging can't be opened except with a Sawz-All. Ocelot II May 2023 #4
My thoughts exactly, Ocelot. Diamond_Dog May 2023 #11
+1 dalton99a May 2023 #19
This this THIS! MontanaMama May 2023 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author wnylib May 2023 #36
Lol. I use my sheet metal shears! And their the old fashioned KPN May 2023 #38
THAT is DUzy worthy! BumRushDaShow May 2023 #45
I finally ordered a knive to open the damned plastic shells. Buns_of_Fire May 2023 #46
LOL!!!!! Of COURSE it did!!!!!! MyOwnPeace May 2023 #70
Usually that's for retail theft prevention. forgotmylogin May 2023 #52
Apparently, plastic is still cheap TheRealNorth May 2023 #5
It Is Quite Cheap ProfessorGAC May 2023 #10
Thank you for the rational and informative post, Prof Hekate May 2023 #14
Depending on the product plastic serves two purposes. former9thward May 2023 #8
There Was A Show About That Last Night ProfessorGAC May 2023 #13
Good reminder. My aunt cursed the Tylenol killer as she tried to open child-proof pill bottles ... Hekate May 2023 #15
I agree with you. Sometimes things are wrapped in 3 levels of plastic, not just one. Too much. demigoddess May 2023 #16
But it came with a cost! MyOwnPeace May 2023 #24
There is still a depodit on empty plastic bottles and cans of soda. wnylib May 2023 #47
Hell yes! pandr32 May 2023 #17
You'd have to live off the land to escape plastic bucolic_frolic May 2023 #20
I was just thinking salt and sugar packaging have always been pwb May 2023 #21
I get so frustrated about this with regard to groceries. hippywife May 2023 #22
"Pressed paper" here, but.......... MyOwnPeace May 2023 #26
Easier for me... hippywife May 2023 #28
Try this site for grapefruit spoons WestMichRad May 2023 #65
As I mentioned above... hippywife May 2023 #73
The pressed paper egg cartons were good for starting seeds. blueinredohio May 2023 #31
Most people don't give a F. Duppers May 2023 #27
Sadly, you are SO right! MyOwnPeace May 2023 #68
Often plastic is used to avoid shop damage, e.g. brain dead customers opening cardboard boxes Bernardo de La Paz May 2023 #29
Those same brain dead customers... llmart May 2023 #35
Yes! I've said that so often! There is nothing that's not wrapped in plastic! Rhiannon12866 May 2023 #37
There is a convenience store in my neighborhood that still uses wnylib May 2023 #53
I've also seen them, too. Rhiannon12866 May 2023 #57
Most grocery stores have plastic bags for wnylib May 2023 #64
It's exactly the same here - we have Hannaford and Price Chopper Rhiannon12866 May 2023 #66
Another thing most people don't think about Mr.Bill May 2023 #39
agreed Skittles May 2023 #41
I have been there. Many times. Many, many times. TreasonousBastard May 2023 #55
I hear you Skittles May 2023 #59
And the heat presses that glue them together. TreasonousBastard May 2023 #60
+1 dalton99a May 2023 #67
Thanks! DET May 2023 #74
Well, I'm hardly a champion for Wall Street greed lizards, and generally agree with you PatrickforB May 2023 #42
THANK YOU! Layers and layers of plastic packaging. It's sickening. nt Maru Kitteh May 2023 #50
Exactly. We started 5 years ago by turning down plastic txwhitedove May 2023 #51
I've started doing takeout only from places that offer the old Chinese food paper cartons or Scrivener7 May 2023 #58
All excellent. We hardly eat take out anymore. I tried making txwhitedove May 2023 #69
MY PLASTIC PET PEEVE. roamer65 May 2023 #72
It annoys me to see produce Texasgal May 2023 #77
The problem is that we're running out of forests ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #78
Before oil based plastic we used biodegradable cellophane. Emile May 2023 #80
look on the sunny side onethatcares May 2023 #81
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