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Amishman

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42. Not terribly applicable here, Slava class ships are nearly unarmored

Thu Apr 14, 2022, 09:36 PM

Apr 2022

Their defense is structured around their anti ship and anti air missiles. If something got close enough to hit them, the ship had already failed.

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Sinking of the Moskva is a game changer. My updated thoughts on the war. [View all] WarGamer Apr 2022 OP

Are the Russians willing to admit the Ukrainians sunk it? Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2022 #1

Doubtful... WarGamer Apr 2022 #2

Seems like it would be hard to make a rallying cry out of "we had an accident." Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2022 #3

in the Kremlin at this very moment they're probably working on how to propagandize it. WarGamer Apr 2022 #4

"Remember The Unfortunate Turn of Events!" Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2022 #7

😂 EX500rider Apr 2022 #25

Yes if this clip is any indication: femmedem Apr 2022 #35

that's what I thought... WarGamer Apr 2022 #36

So, it sunk by chance of the weather? then why are they crying about Ukraine. Tetrachloride Apr 2022 #6

Russian TV pundits are calling it a casus belli pecosbob Apr 2022 #31

Putrid still wants this to look like a special operation small scale skirmish uponit7771 Apr 2022 #5

You say the Russians won't go home a loser. I say this will work... brush Apr 2022 #8

If there are negotiations and Russia gains land... they'll declare victory. WarGamer Apr 2022 #10

The world already knows they lost in their attempt to take the... brush Apr 2022 #13

NATO will grow in less than 2 months FakeNoose Apr 2022 #12

this war has shown that Russia can't attack NATO. WarGamer Apr 2022 #15

Putin could go in with even heavier weaponry. keithbvadu2 Apr 2022 #9

Remember when all the Righties and War Hawks were chanting for the US to "Bomb Iran?" TheBlackAdder Apr 2022 #50

I would guess that once the "blitzkrieg" failed... orwell Apr 2022 #11

the whole thing was incredibly stupid on the part of Russia WarGamer Apr 2022 #14

I still don't understand what he thought he would gain... orwell Apr 2022 #19

agreed WarGamer Apr 2022 #21

Agreed fully Calculating Apr 2022 #43

Putin just purged his military leadership gaskinite Apr 2022 #17

It looks like he may have tried... orwell Apr 2022 #20

It's too bad that Shoigu didn't take him out first. Crunchy Frog Apr 2022 #45

There's the quick... orwell Apr 2022 #49

It sure has to be a morale builder. Chainfire Apr 2022 #16

as an aside... WarGamer Apr 2022 #18

As a Navy vet, one thing that I learned was that it was not the size of a bomb Chainfire Apr 2022 #22

yeah, you're right of course... WarGamer Apr 2022 #23

Not terribly applicable here, Slava class ships are nearly unarmored Amishman Apr 2022 #42

So are you saying Ukraine should surrender? Kingofalldems Apr 2022 #24

If I was asked to guess WHICH DU'er would post what you just posted... WarGamer Apr 2022 #26

Non responsive. Kingofalldems Apr 2022 #27

rofl... WarGamer Apr 2022 #28

Yeah except you posted Russia would NEVER (all caps yours) Kingofalldems Apr 2022 #30

They will fight until they "claim" a victory. Probably after wrecking half the country. WarGamer Apr 2022 #33

Send troops in what vehicles? With what morale? NickB79 Apr 2022 #29

We'll see... WarGamer Apr 2022 #34

Air strikes may become suicidal as nations send in AAW systems to UKR Kaleva Apr 2022 #46

And if Putin had easily taken Ukraine, then he'd have just gone on to his next target pnwmom Apr 2022 #32

I think I see only one way for Putin to claim victory. SmallFry Apr 2022 #37

I think you overestimate Putin's control Red Mountain Apr 2022 #38

I agree with your statements, this war will go on, Russia can never admit defeat, no matter the cost Shanti Shanti Shanti Apr 2022 #39

Overly pessimistic. BootinUp Apr 2022 #40

You seem overly sure of what the Russians will do. honest.abe Apr 2022 #41

There's going to be some sort of retaliation. Liberal In Texas Apr 2022 #44

Malcom Nance seems to agree with you LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #47

yeah sure jcgoldie Apr 2022 #48

Fuck Putler and fuck Russia. roamer65 Apr 2022 #51

While on that subject Chainfire Apr 2022 #52

Royally fucked. roamer65 Apr 2022 #54

Got that link right here. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2022 #53

Russia doesn't have the manpower or materiel to control Ukraine SoonerPride Apr 2022 #55

Muh Russia is ten feet tall DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2022 #56