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Showing Original Post only (View all)This was all for nothing -- that's what my so-called Democratic friend says. [View all]
Last edited Sun Dec 1, 2019, 11:30 PM - Edit history (1)
Today on Facebook I reposted the Kyle Griffith tweet that got so much of the positivity around here that's kept me hopeful and committed.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212741692
I couldn't believe what my Democratic friend said.
Im not at all impressed by how theyve handled this.
Its exactly like the Mueller Report, which liberals everywhere hung SOOO much weight on only to have it produce essentially ZERO results against Trump...
when its over - lets see what it produces.
So far my prediction is that its going to produce exactly the same result - nothing.
I fully agree with you about the facts of the issues.
Of course Muellers report was right.
Of course the impeachment proceedings are right.
But that means nothing if there is no end result of stopping Trump or removing him from office.
If he and everything just carries on like he has since the Mueller Report then its a fail.
Even if all of it was factually correct.
But thats just me.
Time WILL tell.
And then well know...
Its exactly like the Mueller Report, which liberals everywhere hung SOOO much weight on only to have it produce essentially ZERO results against Trump...
when its over - lets see what it produces.
So far my prediction is that its going to produce exactly the same result - nothing.
I fully agree with you about the facts of the issues.
Of course Muellers report was right.
Of course the impeachment proceedings are right.
But that means nothing if there is no end result of stopping Trump or removing him from office.
If he and everything just carries on like he has since the Mueller Report then its a fail.
Even if all of it was factually correct.
But thats just me.
Time WILL tell.
And then well know...
He's not a close friend, just a fellow Democrat in the northwest (and not on DU) who I've constantly exchanged political views with. I thought I knew his view of the last year but I must have been wrong.
Now I wonder if most Democrats actually feel the way he does. If so, then I've gotten swept up here into thinking that they think like me. Or us. If they don't, maybe I've been out of touch. I feel too old to be so disheartened and naive.
Maybe as a Democrat he's just gauging the way the rest of the country, who are not Democratic, sees what's been happening.
I HAVE to know that preserving rule of law will come out of this. If he's right, and his view is closer to reality out there, I don't know what I'll do. Except vote, of course.
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This was all for nothing -- that's what my so-called Democratic friend says. [View all]
ancianita
Dec 2019
OP
We cannot say no one is above the law if it's not enforceable. Unenforceable law is no law at all.
ancianita
Dec 2019
#9
I admit a tendency to conflate the two. But what is Constitutional law if not enforceable upon any
ancianita
Dec 2019
#23
And what good is intelligence. What good is knowing. What has Kerry told us is the benefit of it.
ancianita
Dec 2019
#10
No good. I know this. But understanding is the booby prize. The next question is 'Now what?'
ancianita
Dec 2019
#16
I've seen it before. I've never wanted to surrender. We're talking millions here. A mental landscape
ancianita
Dec 2019
#12
That's what I wanted to call him -- the Chuck Todd Democrat. You make really good points about
ancianita
Dec 2019
#17
It will be well worth it just to watch Trump lose his mind whenever the media refers to him as
sop
Dec 2019
#11
Will he? It hasn't happened to the other presidents I've seen impeached. Just sayin'.
ancianita
Dec 2019
#15
LOL-- you're right. Clinton -- the only other impeached pres since the 19thC--
dawg day
Dec 2019
#20
I forgot to remind him of that, thanks. I forgot there were even polls back then, or if they were
ancianita
Dec 2019
#25
The Constitution is in violation of justice, as well, if it doesn't allow indicting a president.
ancianita
Dec 2019
#29
If the GOP doesn't convict, impeachment will backup how un-American and corrupt the gop is.
rockfordfile
Dec 2019
#30
They'll be like Putin, saying, "So what. That and a bus token will get you kids across town."
ancianita
Dec 2019
#32
Man, I thought I was despairing. Being this "realist," are you still going to vote?
ancianita
Dec 2019
#33
If my friend's right, and the majority here agree with him, then what's the point. Rule of law is
ancianita
Dec 2019
#38
Doing the ethically correct things doesn't guarantee it works our well for us.
aikoaiko
Dec 2019
#43
Structurally, nothing guarantees your happiness anymore. Believe that if you have to, though.
ancianita
Dec 2019
#44
Oh, he's going to vote. And I'll always vote. Read Part 2. He's realistic. I'm the one who's down.
ancianita
Dec 2019
#46
First, one should never assume the DU crowd is reflective of the overall Dem electorate.
Garrett78
Dec 2019
#47
I don't assume that. DU's had that discussion a number of times. And so yes, ignorance IS a national
ancianita
Dec 2019
#48
I agree, and argued vociferously against his outlook. He calls it 'realism,' not defeatism. But the
ancianita
Dec 2019
#56
Whoever successfully lobbies Republican senators needs to "at least try," too. Soon.
ancianita
Dec 2019
#57