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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 12:09 PM Jul 2019

How effective will those ICE raids targeting people with final deportation orders be? [View all]

Probably not very. The targeted individuals know that such orders exist and that raids are planned, so most of them will probably not be in the places ICE looks. Most of them haven't been in those places for some time. What does that mean?

What it will probably mean is that a bunch of people who are not named in final deportation orders will be arrested by the ICE officers for other reasons. Many of them will find themselves on the other side of the border without any chance to defend themselves.

Then, Trump will brag about all the people who got deported and we'll know nothing about who they were or the supposed reasons for their deportation.

Worse, there will no doubt be U.S. Citizens swept up in these raids and summarily deported without papers that prove their U.S. citizenship, making it very difficult for them to return to this country. That also happens a lot, and we usually know nothing about it.

Deportation statistics - that's what Trump is after, and the ICE agents will gladly help provide numbers for him to crow about.

That's the unreported truth of what ICE will be doing in these raids. They will go to the addresses on the Deportation orders. Good luck to the people at those addresses. They are at high risk of improper arrest and summary deportation. And we won't hear about their cases. We'll only hear Trump bragging about how effective the raids were.

Meanwhile, the people actually named in final deportation orders won't be where the orders say they are. They've moved on to other locations.

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We just moved into a new house last week underpants Jul 2019 #1
Law enforcement at all levels lacks subtlety. MineralMan Jul 2019 #7
They'll sweep up nonwhites who have a foreign accent and don't have a U.S. passport dalton99a Jul 2019 #2
instilling fear in the illegal community and applause from the GOP community so its another win beachbum bob Jul 2019 #3
Post removed Post removed Jul 2019 #4
Gosh, that sounds a lot like something a right-winger would say. MineralMan Jul 2019 #8
Most police from major cities have already said they are not assisting-- including use of databases hlthe2b Jul 2019 #5
A majority of my neighbors speak a different language as their MineralMan Jul 2019 #9
I have East Indian, Latino and Asian neighbors (I think Korean), but they all work in hlthe2b Jul 2019 #10
Yes, keep your eyes open. MineralMan Jul 2019 #12
Yes. There have been TV PSAs running about those rights here. MineralMan Jul 2019 #11
I know for a fact we have some major Hispanic gangs in the Denver metro area ProudLib72 Jul 2019 #24
Yes. We do. As does LA and Chicago. hlthe2b Jul 2019 #25
Inevitably they are going to snatched up legal immigrants and citizens... Thomas Hurt Jul 2019 #6
Sounds pretty effective Midnightwalk Jul 2019 #13
Well, it's true that ICE probably doesn't really care. MineralMan Jul 2019 #15
As long as they get some Bettie Jul 2019 #14
That and instilling fear among immigrants. That's the other goal. MineralMan Jul 2019 #16
Yeah, that goes along with it Bettie Jul 2019 #17
I predict a disaster. panader0 Jul 2019 #18
Let's see if the raids actually come off. trump backed off before. And what's up with... brush Jul 2019 #19
I believe the whole point is to sow chaos and terror. In that, he will succeed. Hekate Jul 2019 #20
Yes. Terrorizing the immigrant community is his goal. MineralMan Jul 2019 #23
I hope that not only don't the cities give them any help Everyman Jackal Jul 2019 #21
The problem with that is that rank-and-file cops are probably MineralMan Jul 2019 #22
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