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In reply to the discussion: For any who believe Occupy to be dead, you need only look into a mirror. [View all]DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)72. One cannot used the old metrics.....
...of protest movements of yesterday to try to understand the OCCUPY MOVEMENT of today.....
- K&R
"These protesters have not come to work within the system. They are not pleading with Congress for electoral reform. They know electoral politics is a farce and have found another way to be heard and exercise power. They have no faith, nor should they, in the political system or the two major political parties. They know the press will not amplify their voices, and so they created a press of their own. They know the economy serves the oligarchs, so they formed their own communal system. This movement is an effort to take our country back.
This is a goal the power elite cannot comprehend. They cannot envision a day when they will not be in charge of our lives. The elites believe, and seek to make us believe, that globalization and unfettered capitalism are natural law, some kind of permanent and eternal dynamic that can never be altered. What the elites fail to realize is that rebellion will not stop until the corporate state is extinguished.
It will not stop until there is an end to the corporate abuse of the poor, the working class, the elderly, the sick, children, those being slaughtered in our imperial wars and tortured in our black sites. It will not stop until foreclosures and bank repossessions stop. It will not stop until students no longer have to go into debt to be educated, and families no longer have to plunge into bankruptcy to pay medical bills. It will not stop until the corporate destruction of the ecosystem stops, and our relationships with each other and the planet are radically reconfigured.
And that is why the elites, and the rotted and degenerate system of corporate power they sustain, are in trouble. That is why they keep asking what the demands are." ~Chris Hedges, "Why the Elites Are in Trouble"
This is a goal the power elite cannot comprehend. They cannot envision a day when they will not be in charge of our lives. The elites believe, and seek to make us believe, that globalization and unfettered capitalism are natural law, some kind of permanent and eternal dynamic that can never be altered. What the elites fail to realize is that rebellion will not stop until the corporate state is extinguished.
It will not stop until there is an end to the corporate abuse of the poor, the working class, the elderly, the sick, children, those being slaughtered in our imperial wars and tortured in our black sites. It will not stop until foreclosures and bank repossessions stop. It will not stop until students no longer have to go into debt to be educated, and families no longer have to plunge into bankruptcy to pay medical bills. It will not stop until the corporate destruction of the ecosystem stops, and our relationships with each other and the planet are radically reconfigured.
And that is why the elites, and the rotted and degenerate system of corporate power they sustain, are in trouble. That is why they keep asking what the demands are." ~Chris Hedges, "Why the Elites Are in Trouble"
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For any who believe Occupy to be dead, you need only look into a mirror. [View all]
Fire Walk With Me
Aug 2012
OP
No one is doing any of that. We're just attempting to drum up support against horrific issues
Fire Walk With Me
Aug 2012
#38
Doing something shouldn't be confused with doing something productive.
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#13
Think of Brownian motion. When there is any activity something will happen. n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2012
#69
Well in this case the reaction has been to annoy potential allies among the general public
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#70
We don't have any problems with allies. But the 1% sure is annoyed, annoyed enough to
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#79
Were you aware that public support for the OWS has been steadily dropping?
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#83
Neither you nor I can possibly predict the consequences of what OWS has done or is doing.
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2012
#102
You forgot the original point I wrote. You're looking for a direct, short-term effect and,
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2012
#122
Perhaps many people realize that camping out isn't the way to change the system
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#12
Cool. What laws have they passed? What politicians have they backed (that won)
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#17
Well locally there is a nuclear station that is hating Occupy Encinitas right about now
nadinbrzezinski
Aug 2012
#20
OWS was about . . . protesting a nuclear power plant in California?
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#22
Oh not nothing, they were apparently loosely associated with an already
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#64
7 months of camping brought some people together who would likely have NEVER met otherwise. nt
patrice
Aug 2012
#52
You'll understand why I am hesitant to take your opinion as fact right?
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#77
You're way behind. They've moved long ago to occupying the courts eg, and are so far
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#80
Supporters, I have noticed, speak of their successes in generalities
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#84
There are plenty of specifics available as OWS has its own news sites which report on all they
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#86
I thought this spring was suppose to be ripe......then i thought it was going to be this summer....
Joe the Revelator
Aug 2012
#18
I don't live in a place where there is enough of a liberal population to make a real
Cleita
Aug 2012
#24
If a people-powered movement fails to attract people perhaps it is not a movement after all. nt
hack89
Aug 2012
#28
Far from dead. We have not even really begun yet. That was just the dressed rehearsal.
limpyhobbler
Aug 2012
#29
One of Occupy's main goals is "money out of politics", or the end of "Citizens United"
Fire Walk With Me
Aug 2012
#34
The student debt bubble is tied to the mortgage banking crisis, ergo the student debt bubble...
patrice
Aug 2012
#53
Just in case you missed it: the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau's, Richard Cordray
patrice
Aug 2012
#58
well you forgot some nuclear power station in california, and there are probuably other stuff out
loli phabay
Aug 2012
#43
And those pragmatic solutions of yours, would be what exactly? And please point to your huge
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#88
It's not our fault everything needs to be changed for the better ;) However, good point:
Fire Walk With Me
Aug 2012
#91
No. This OP is entirely about every individual's responsibility to get up, get out,
Fire Walk With Me
Aug 2012
#90