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AlexSFCA

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39. Berlin wall was to keep them in from escaping not from coming in

Sun Dec 30, 2018, 01:35 PM

Dec 2018

The whole idea of a wall for trump has absolutely nothing to do wether it’s effective or not. It has everything to do with demonstrating an ability to bend government to his knees and fulfilling campaign promise. E.g. as soon as the wall is built, he will be lying to no end how border crossings have diminished, etc.

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What Happened When A Trump Supporter Challenged Me About the Wall [View all] babylonsister Dec 2018 OP

The Wall debate isn't about facts. Girard442 Dec 2018 #1

Correct. The wall is akin to the anti-abortion stance of churches. It's used to solidify and fleece. TheBlackAdder Dec 2018 #13

As an aside, there is exactly one thing in the Bible which is germane to abortion Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2018 #30

Also, child is not born until its first breath. There are several passages about fetuses dying. TheBlackAdder Dec 2018 #33

Yes, there should be a punishment for causing a miscarriage Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2018 #83

what about Numbers 5:11-31 Locrian Dec 2018 #80

"Stupid is as Stupid Does." (Forrest Gump's mom). maddiemom Dec 2018 #24

Your energy is better utilized where it makes a difference lunatica Dec 2018 #57

It isn't even about a wall NastyRiffraff Dec 2018 #67

Very useful, babylonsister. Thanks for posting it. Glorfindel Dec 2018 #2

Thank you for this, babylonsister Ohiogal Dec 2018 #3

Can you walk me through that? WinstonSmith4740 Dec 2018 #49

At the bottom of the OP (original post) there is a Bookmark tab. Click that; it turns yellow Hekate Dec 2018 #56

Thanks so much! WinstonSmith4740 Dec 2018 #59

Thank you for the explanation. I've never used the bookmark function before. llmart Dec 2018 #60

Excellent. Thank you. yardwork Dec 2018 #4

Fabulous compendium-thanks! Pantagruel Dec 2018 #5

Boommarked for the inevitable future use. irisblue Dec 2018 #6

may I use this? onethatcares Dec 2018 #7

It's ok by me, just use link babylonsister Dec 2018 #9

Since it comes from CATO, I'd say yes. Just credit the source. 3Hotdogs Dec 2018 #12

Excellent facts. Sadly, most wall supporters just want a Monument-to-Hatred on our border. Hoyt Dec 2018 #8

There you have it. It's zero sum. Iggo Dec 2018 #34

Trump wants a permanent monument to himself. FuzzyRabbit Dec 2018 #40

Stupid people don't know they're stupid. Doitnow Dec 2018 #51

Well done, watoos Dec 2018 #10

Great list and great post. Nt lostnfound Dec 2018 #11

Trump will not give the REAL reason for his wall. Archae Dec 2018 #14

The reality, going forward, to me is profoundly heartbreaking. DontBooVote Dec 2018 #54

So is Hitler's name... llmart Dec 2018 #62

K&R x 5 billion Martin Eden Dec 2018 #15

Thank you! Bookmarking! GoneOffShore Dec 2018 #16

Awesome! Bookmarked. ancianita Dec 2018 #17

Thank you for this post LittleGirl Dec 2018 #18

not communist; Stalinist Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #28

Yes, Hermit. Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2018 #73

This is excellent! PatSeg Dec 2018 #19

Copied and saved Bayard Dec 2018 #20

K & R & bookmarked! SunSeeker Dec 2018 #21

A must read dalton99a Dec 2018 #22

Well said and well sourced! B Stieg Dec 2018 #23

May I homegirl Dec 2018 #25

Excellent summary of why a wall is not the solution to the problem. Grammy23 Dec 2018 #26

+5,000,000,000 chwaliszewski Dec 2018 #27

K&R Kurt V. Dec 2018 #29

I bow in the presence of greatness. That was brilliant. :) nt Javaman Dec 2018 #31

Thank you!! hwmnbn Dec 2018 #32

Excellent! Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2018 #35

They are so insistent on being ignorant! FM123 Dec 2018 #36

Great post. Book-marked. n/t Whiskeytide Dec 2018 #37

The Berlin Wall was not just a wall. cab67 Dec 2018 #38

Berlin wall was to keep them in from escaping not from coming in AlexSFCA Dec 2018 #39

useless side point - cab67 Dec 2018 #69

I just quote Benjamin Franklin on this subject: Initech Dec 2018 #41

A good comparison is with the war on drugs. cab67 Dec 2018 #42

Our congress members need to hit the TV news shows with some of these facts. K&R. Elwood P Dowd Dec 2018 #43

I'm a little surprised. Usually they respond with a red herring fallacy unrelated to your reply. ffr Dec 2018 #44

BTW, many landowners who would have their land seized are rural Republicans. nt tblue37 Dec 2018 #45

K&R and bookmarked! smirkymonkey Dec 2018 #46

I have started asking trixie2 Dec 2018 #47

Sadly, about 51 million people, give or take, have indicated in PatrickforO Dec 2018 #48

Well, facts are stubborn things. This is an OUTSTANDING post. calimary Dec 2018 #50

It's shame that, as someone above mentioned, facts simply do not matter to most Trumpers. xor Dec 2018 #52

Thank you babylonsister for posting this and on your research to get the facts! denvine Dec 2018 #53

Thank you for this. thucythucy Dec 2018 #55

KnR n Bookmark. Kudos to the author Hekate Dec 2018 #58

Thanks Sister! sellitman Dec 2018 #61

I've been arguing with conservatives against the wall using only facts. Nitram Dec 2018 #63

kick Hamlette Dec 2018 #64

Humpty Trumpty wants a big wall... Talitha Dec 2018 #65

That will certainly come in handy! Thanks! marble falls Dec 2018 #66

Trump Couldn't Care Less Cheviteau Dec 2018 #68

Good on ya! You should always include a link to this brilliant YouTube video as well LiberalLovinLug Dec 2018 #70

I used the Cato Institute article a couple of weeks ago with a Conservative FB Friend Quixote1818 Dec 2018 #71

walla are ugly hideous and usesless structures. But.... i want to put a WALL around Trump. A Jail. trueblue2007 Dec 2018 #72

Thank you for your thoughtful response to others UpInArms Dec 2018 #74

The fine for knowingly hiring an illegal immigrant is as low as $250. tclambert Dec 2018 #75

Hey, need your help on a related topic Lithos Dec 2018 #76

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Great post, as always! Poiuyt Dec 2018 #77

Excellent article. Quite useful. I plan to share this widely . . . Journeyman Dec 2018 #78

One of the most useful posts I've ever come across on DU DonaldsRump Dec 2018 #79

K&R rpannier Dec 2018 #82

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Than you so much for this. bitterross Jan 2019 #85