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Demovictory9

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Wed Dec 5, 2018, 10:00 PM Dec 2018

All the presidents at the Bush funeral service together recited this core prayer. Except one. [View all]

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/All-the-presidents-at-the-Bush-funeral-service-13445686.php

The Apostles' Creed is one of the prayers most core to Christianity. It states in a few lines the basic narrative of Jesus' life, is the statement of faith in one God, and is said daily by Christians across the globe.

On Wednesday, one Christian didn't say it. And Twitter noticed.

Video from the funeral of former President George H.W. Bush showed a front row of presidents at the Washington National Cathedral, standing and reciting it along with the program, as the voice of Episcopal Bishop Michael Curry boomed through the speakers to the thousands of mourners. Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and their wives glanced up and down from the programs they held in front of them and spoke the prayer, along with everyone else visible in the video. The program, as is typical, calls for the prayer to be said in unison.

President Donald Trump stood, with his hands folded in front of him, waist-high, the program in his left hand, his lips not moving. Melania Trump also did not speak, nor did she hold a program.

Social media, left to right, pounced. The faith and values of Trump have been a source of debate, division, anger and mystery since his run for the presidency began - and especially since many religious conservatives embraced him, despite what critics say is his dishonesty, philandering, crudeness and policies many see as anti-Christian.

Theories (primarily of the snarky variety) poured forth on Twitter.

But mixed in within disgust was a small voice raising a controversial question: Maybe Trump doesn't believe the Creed, and therefore shouldn't say it? This was quickly answered by others noting that Trump says he is a Christian, often praises faith in God and characterizes himself as a friend of the faithful.
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yeah let's force everyone to practice the christian religion...not nt msongs Dec 2018 #1
This isn't about forcing anyone to do anything. This is about what a FRAUD Trump is. SunSeeker Dec 2018 #14
If you think Christianity is a bunch of bunk, not participating in their rituals isn't a scandal. RockRaven Dec 2018 #2
Bingo! patricia92243 Dec 2018 #4
exactly... FirstLight Dec 2018 #7
I am so tired of people complaining about the Apostles Nicene creed vlyons Dec 2018 #3
Your president's hypocrisy isn't any of your business? Demit Dec 2018 #8
It wouldn't be worth mentioning except for the fact that Tiny claims to be The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #9
Yeah, but that would require he learn a couple of hymns and the Apostle's Creed so Nay Dec 2018 #32
plenty of evangelicals don't say the apostles creed fishwax Dec 2018 #39
He isn't just claiming to be a Christian. He is using it as a political tool. phleshdef Dec 2018 #12
Yes! Exactly! StarryNite Dec 2018 #25
Well... GaYellowDawg Dec 2018 #38
Yep. phleshdef Dec 2018 #40
many of Trump's most ardent supporters are right wing Christians. Kaleva Dec 2018 #13
Yes, and they don't care one little bit that he didn't recite. Mariana Dec 2018 #23
One can expect a purported Christian, Trump, to pay at least lip service to the... Kaleva Dec 2018 #27
That may be what you expect. Mariana Dec 2018 #28
I'm tired of people complaining about the Declaration Of Independence Constitution, too... regnaD kciN Dec 2018 #15
Waiting for Pat Robertson, Franklin Graham, and Jimmy Baker to weigh in... Blue Owl Dec 2018 #5
They probably advised Trump to do exactly what he did. nt. Mariana Dec 2018 #22
Trump has said he is a great christian ... if he is he should have known this Fullduplexxx Dec 2018 #6
He wouldn't have to know it. The words are on the paper in his hand. n/t pnwmom Dec 2018 #19
I grew up Baptist and we never said it in church at all... cynatnite Dec 2018 #10
Ever heard of Jimmy and Rosalyn Carter? jberryhill Dec 2018 #16
I'm not sure what the point is... cynatnite Dec 2018 #17
He had all the words on the paper in his hand. And he grew up Presbyterian, pnwmom Dec 2018 #20
It's a thing with Catholics, Episcopalians, Lutherans, Presbyterians, Methodists et al dalton99a Dec 2018 #24
That is an excellent point, and a Jewish person would not be reciting this creed either. still_one Dec 2018 #30
Trump will say that he gets other people to say it for him. Ilsa Dec 2018 #11
I wonder if the Creed was printed in the Order of Worship. TomSlick Dec 2018 #18
Yes, it was printed. Everyone else was reading from their copies. pnwmom Dec 2018 #21
Thanks. TomSlick Dec 2018 #33
That was my thought. Why would he REFUSE to read the Creed pnwmom Dec 2018 #34
In Catcher in the Rye, Holden recalls a sermon given by a funeral director marylandblue Dec 2018 #26
This is a disturbing story. It reminds me of the pressure put on students in public schools if they still_one Dec 2018 #29
The difference is that Trump poses as a Presbyterian Christian. pnwmom Dec 2018 #35
No. Whether one says an oath or participates in a funneral service seems to be a more important still_one Dec 2018 #41
Never heard of it; we never said it in Quaker Meeting. eShirl Dec 2018 #31
Trump poses as a Presbyterian, and they say the Apostles Creed. n/t pnwmom Dec 2018 #36
god, yortsed snacilbuper Dec 2018 #37
One "Christian" should be in quotes.. Cha Dec 2018 #42
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