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Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
58. Not conservative; uneducated, apolitical and dare I say, hijacked.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 12:44 PM
Aug 2012

For 30 years, the voters on the right have been hijacked by social issues - to their OWN detriment. Why this election is so exciting. For the first time in memory, we get to have the conversation about what the RW ECONOMIC policies are for this nation. Once those teabagging "keep the government out of my Medicare" people take a drink from the Gekko/Galt clue hose, I don't think many will be on board with that path.

We just need to talk with them (one on one, door by door) about the VAST and diametrically opposed policies are, and what they mean to all of us who aren't in the 1%.

"RR wants to cut SS and Medicare so that they can offset giving billionaires more tax cuts".

"Customers are job creators. More customers, more jobs, more hiring."

"Companies are sitting on record amounts of cash. Giving them more won't make them hire - demand makes them hire"

"We need to prime the pump from the bottom up. People with jobs consume, people with money save - which does not get money flowing through the economy"

"Small businessman: You want me to hire, bring me more customers. If you give me a tax break, I'll just take the wife to Aruba".

"Without regulation, it is a free-for-all with greed at the center as the driving point"


Talking points - short and simple. Once people are forced to pay attention to this stuff (which I think this election is going to do), hopefully they will realize that voting against their own interests isn't in their best interest.

Wow. I have to post this on my FB account. Very valuable and informative. nt live love laugh Aug 2012 #1
Facebook has at least 83 million fake users, who's going to read it? just1voice Aug 2012 #83
The 750 million or so real users. tridim Aug 2012 #94
Damn that was a long read but LittleGirl Aug 2012 #2
Wow.... ewagner Aug 2012 #3
Definitely the longest post I've EVER read on DU but every word was pure gold. Bravo ! BlueJazz Aug 2012 #4
First may I say Welcome to DU viguy007! rurallib Aug 2012 #5
what a rotten person that is...State's Rights rules Civil Rights? Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #6
The conversation continues and the journey continues. CJCRANE Aug 2012 #8
Thank you for your help, this is new post you can help me with , its title is: A Battle Cry viguy007 Aug 2012 #158
Here you go, I've posted it here - CJCRANE Aug 2012 #159
Thank you, I now have enough posts where I can start a thread on my own. viguy007 Aug 2012 #161
I worry when we take the stand that we must agree on all the issues or we agree on no issues. Squinch Aug 2012 #12
+1 DeeDeeNY Aug 2012 #43
+1, you nailed it. just1voice Aug 2012 #85
True that - State's Rights is code for bigot. DURHAM D Aug 2012 #113
most people who change lifelong fundamental beliefs - don't change 100% all at once Douglas Carpenter Aug 2012 #116
Yes, I am a republican viguy007 Aug 2012 #117
Not so fast... Please, introduce yourself. Albert_Wentworth Aug 2012 #123
Seems this must have struck a nerve on the "right"... hlthe2b Aug 2012 #124
Thank you for your concern. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #131
You don't care ...? Albert_Wentworth Aug 2012 #132
Your concern is noted. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #133
It will never 'be exposed' because guess what?! It's too damning to the Right! lunatica Aug 2012 #146
Well, now there's a Republican I'd vote for! Squinch Aug 2012 #7
This is PRECISELY why the Democrats must be centrist. CabCurious Aug 2012 #9
A plurality of Americans are conservative CJCRANE Aug 2012 #11
This country leans center-right. It really does. CabCurious Aug 2012 #14
A lot of Americans claim to be conservative but nevertheless, Jackpine Radical Aug 2012 #33
Many moderate conservatives lean progressive on SOCIAL issues CabCurious Aug 2012 #37
But center right as of when? The center right of 10 years ago is now considered left by the right. Squinch Aug 2012 #34
That's the irony of the right's hostility towards moderates... CabCurious Aug 2012 #36
I agree with much of what you've said, but... Blanks Aug 2012 #46
Agree 100% CabCurious Aug 2012 #49
" The complete commercialization of our information will be our downfall." Jackpine Radical Aug 2012 #110
:) CabCurious Aug 2012 #136
I don't agree that this country leans center right Poiuyt Aug 2012 #151
I asked earlier outsideworld Aug 2012 #134
I think it's okay, go ahead. CJCRANE Aug 2012 #145
"MAJORITY of Americans are CONSERVATIVE" barbtries Aug 2012 #25
Being "conservative" doesn't mean social conservative or radical-right CabCurious Aug 2012 #28
Check out this site truebluegreen Aug 2012 #45
Love the link, but... on an objective, global spectrum... we're center-right. CabCurious Aug 2012 #48
Actually, no. RC Aug 2012 #74
You just made my point CabCurious Aug 2012 #91
And even in a relativist sense, we're to the right of USA in 1980. CabCurious Aug 2012 #92
Just anecdotal laundry_queen Aug 2012 #144
$100 says that was about social issues, not economic CabCurious Aug 2012 #154
LOL, like you were actually going to pay me anyway. laundry_queen Aug 2012 #156
Is the website you gave us to check out Yours? riverbendviewgal Aug 2012 #89
YOU LIE datasuspect Aug 2012 #50
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #87
Edit your offensive title line please. Son of Gob Aug 2012 #90
cool post bro datasuspect Aug 2012 #101
You're ok with that title line? Son of Gob Aug 2012 #103
Cool jury results bro. I guess you'd have voted to leave it. Too bad bro. Son of Gob Aug 2012 #105
This country leans slightly right. I didn't say it leans far-right or into crazy. :) CabCurious Aug 2012 #125
bullshit datasuspect Aug 2012 #130
do you do anything besides call people liars and full of shit? nt CabCurious Aug 2012 #137
Not conservative; uneducated, apolitical and dare I say, hijacked. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #58
exactly rockingirl Aug 2012 #96
There's no "talking with" the hardliners on social issues. CabCurious Aug 2012 #127
Those talking points are anything but Centrist. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #128
Trickle down isn't centrist. And bottom-up isn't left. CabCurious Aug 2012 #135
Did you read the post you responded to Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #139
In a global spectrum, Keynesian/mixed economy theory is centrist, not left. CabCurious Aug 2012 #140
You are defending Reagan - on an Econ thread? Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #143
"where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost." - Reagon, 1980 CabCurious Aug 2012 #155
I disagree davidthegnome Aug 2012 #69
A Centralest Democrat now, is to the Right of Republicans of 40 years ago. RC Aug 2012 #77
The center is wide, in my view (and I don't count libertarians who claim to be independent) CabCurious Aug 2012 #126
drivel DURHAM D Aug 2012 #104
I'm an independent Barry2012 Aug 2012 #10
Welcome to DU and Inuca Aug 2012 #18
Welcome to DU, Barry! VWolf Aug 2012 #20
We need hope again (and reasoned independents) CabCurious Aug 2012 #23
i like your first post Barry2012 barbtries Aug 2012 #26
Yeah, right. Like your screen name doesn't give you away. HERVEPA Aug 2012 #32
THAT NOLALady Aug 2012 #38
Amen. DURHAM D Aug 2012 #106
That's good, and all . . . . but just a nitpick . . . . HughBeaumont Aug 2012 #42
+1. You see a sheep clothing wardrobe failure? 'Barry' is what Rush and his Dittoheads call Obama. freshwest Aug 2012 #55
Very sorry Barry2012 Aug 2012 #70
For that, you would need to ask the Administrators Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #93
Oh, come on. I like your screen name. Quantess Aug 2012 #141
Welcome to DU riverbendviewgal Aug 2012 #84
This should be spread far and wide randr Aug 2012 #13
Don't forget to include torture camps and civilian killing in their "manifesto" just1voice Aug 2012 #86
This is the type of Republican I remember SnowCritter Aug 2012 #15
Romney used to govern more as a moderate. ananda Aug 2012 #16
He jumped from that ship in Fall 2007 (nt) CabCurious Aug 2012 #17
Same thing happened to McCain. n/t progressoid Aug 2012 #35
Romney does or and says whatever he thinks he needs to get support JI7 Aug 2012 #107
Welcome and thank you for the thoughtful and detailed post. Skidmore Aug 2012 #19
Kicked, recommended and tweeted Lucy Goosey Aug 2012 #21
just wow.... what he said. n/t 4_TN_TITANS Aug 2012 #22
Great post Vietnameravet Aug 2012 #24
Kick to read later PatSeg Aug 2012 #27
Great pragmatic, well reasoned, post. Well worth the read! nt mikekohr Aug 2012 #29
Hope you don't mind if I sent this, in total, to my Republican brother-in-law! sinkingfeeling Aug 2012 #30
welcome grantcart Aug 2012 #31
Well done, worth the read Marrah_G Aug 2012 #39
I'm glad you pointed that out. Blanks Aug 2012 #51
We have a rare phenomenon... pink-o Aug 2012 #40
K&R Raffi Ella Aug 2012 #41
Long but worth it.... johnny156 Aug 2012 #44
If they did, they wouldn't be supporting him in the first place. Jamaal510 Aug 2012 #64
excellent Sheepshank Aug 2012 #47
helpful advertising hint datasuspect Aug 2012 #52
You are not alone fredamae Aug 2012 #53
Oh God, where do I start? zzaapp Aug 2012 #54
Those countries do NOT all have universal "socialized" healthcare. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #56
I was hospitalized in Spain during a vacation and it was free (100% American w/ US passport) DonRedwood Aug 2012 #60
K&R... Historic NY Aug 2012 #57
Just 1 correction... Strega Ribiera Aug 2012 #59
Now if I could just remember beveeheart Aug 2012 #61
This was really written by a Republican? EC Aug 2012 #62
This person shows he loves his country more then he hates dems. We should all southernyankeebelle Aug 2012 #63
Sir rtracey Aug 2012 #65
I hope more Repub. voters will take such a clear-eyed look at their club... polichick Aug 2012 #66
So, from this lenghty response am I correct Bainbridge Bear Aug 2012 #67
DU's version of Born Again whatchamacallit Aug 2012 #95
Yeah, same thought as well. wickerwoman Aug 2012 #114
I have a family member who wants to be a moderate fiscal republican marlakay Aug 2012 #68
Like many have already said. Wow. Smickey Aug 2012 #71
No not the award. Smickey Aug 2012 #147
Does this mean I am talking to myself? Smickey Aug 2012 #148
K & R Care Acutely Aug 2012 #72
Thanks for your work putting this all together. EXCELLENT POST! pnwmom Aug 2012 #73
Welcome. You are not alone. nt Cognitive_Resonance Aug 2012 #75
Marked amuse bouche Aug 2012 #76
Should be submitted . . . Richard D Aug 2012 #78
Welcome to D.U. viguy007. Uncle Joe Aug 2012 #79
kick samsingh Aug 2012 #80
Repukes sure are popular around here, especially around economics just1voice Aug 2012 #81
THis should be printed and talked about riverbendviewgal Aug 2012 #82
Replying Because I Want to be Able to Find this Later Xyzse Aug 2012 #88
Hearty KICK and a HIGH Recommend for good old fashioned common sense! Raster Aug 2012 #97
CJCRANE (12,166 posts ) 4 t 4 Aug 2012 #99
You did read the VERY FIRST PART OF THE POST, RIGHT? Raster Aug 2012 #102
Bravo! Extremely well written. I'm bookmarking this one. McCamy Taylor Aug 2012 #98
yes really well done after 21,000 4 t 4 Aug 2012 #100
This is the SMARTEST post I have ever read here. NashvilleLefty Aug 2012 #108
To viguy007: A hearty welcome to DU ! steve2470 Aug 2012 #109
K&R you said it! airplaneman Aug 2012 #111
In here are some hints on how to run people that can provide useful votes in red districts TheKentuckian Aug 2012 #112
I read this right after vi posted it Astazia Aug 2012 #115
Brilliant! AnnieK401 Aug 2012 #118
Rec #260 CJCRANE Aug 2012 #119
Thank you very much. viguy007 Aug 2012 #121
Just send me a personal message, or reply to one of my posts, when you're ready. CJCRANE Aug 2012 #122
But before I publish this is there anyway outsideworld Aug 2012 #149
I don't know any more than he has written CJCRANE Aug 2012 #150
This message was self-deleted by its author outsideworld Aug 2012 #120
Well written trocar Aug 2012 #129
Not Voting for Republican rjlobo422 Aug 2012 #138
Very happy you are doing this. Jack Sprat Aug 2012 #142
Found this doing a search of "Republicans Voting for Obama" jwhitesj Aug 2012 #152
Look at the dates. It was posted here on DU first. nt CJCRANE Aug 2012 #153
Um, with all due respect to a new Obama voter... brooklynite Aug 2012 #157
I agree with you 100% viguy007 Aug 2012 #160
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