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Caliman73

(11,736 posts)
24. Yes, but you used it in your OP as an insult to conservatives.
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 07:16 PM
Aug 2018

That was apart from the Hans & Franz reference.

I am analyzing it from the perspective of where the "insult" comes from.

If I say, "That is retarded" or "You're retarded" or similarly, "That is so gay" or like I said in my initial response, "You throw like a girl". I am implying that the object of my attack is "less than" that something is wrong with them and I am doing it by comparing them with a whole class of human beings.

When I was an adolescent, I used "gay" as an insult. My sister, who was best friends with a gay man, who I really grew to like and respect, pointed that out to me and asked me if I meant to insult our friend. That was when I realized that the insult was meant in the comparison.

I worked for many many years with intellectually disabled people and again, realize that when people say, "That/You're retarded" they likely mean that the object of the insult has done something that is not intelligent or a good choice. However, the insult lies in the comparison between a typically functioning person, and a person who is functioning below the typical IQ level. When you realize that the insult is in comparison to an actual person, with challenges, who is just trying to live their life, it changes.

That is the point, that has nothing to do with Hans & Franz, parody, or drama. It has to do with US being aware that language an associations have meaning that affect other people's lives, and then choosing insults that are not based on the innate attributes of groups of people, like women, gay people, or intellectually disabled people.

It makes it more difficult sometimes to insult people when our options are limited, but it is worth it so that we don't disparage a whole segment of the population with our insults.

Is FreeRepublic still around? Cary Aug 2018 #1
Its the link from Drudge that has kept the light on Im sure hexola Aug 2018 #4
Just for parody purposes workinclasszero Aug 2018 #46
Someone must have pulled it. Different Drummer Aug 2018 #2
FIxed thank you hexola Aug 2018 #3
Girlymen? phylny Aug 2018 #5
Old SNL reference - Hans & Franz hexola Aug 2018 #6
Yeah, I remember. phylny Aug 2018 #7
Sorry hexola Aug 2018 #8
They may well be men, phylny Aug 2018 #9
I think you're being picky... hexola Aug 2018 #11
You mean edhopper Aug 2018 #12
HA! hexola Aug 2018 #13
After the explaination that your post is sexist, your response is the commenter is being picky? TeamPooka Aug 2018 #21
Um no - that was the commenter's suggestion hexola Aug 2018 #33
I agree with you phylny Ohiogal Aug 2018 #14
Yes - it is meant as an insult!!! hexola Aug 2018 #15
What is the insult though? Think about it. Caliman73 Aug 2018 #17
Parody is the keyword - you're analyzing it like Hanz & Franz is a drama hexola Aug 2018 #18
Hans and Franz were the parody. You are editorializing. Understand the difference TeamPooka Aug 2018 #22
Yes I am editorializing - with a known comedy/satire reference hexola Aug 2018 #36
Yes, but you used it in your OP as an insult to conservatives. Caliman73 Aug 2018 #24
You do realize FreeRepublic has an anti-gay agenda? hexola Aug 2018 #32
So when you call freepers "girlymen" you mean to demean them by comparing them to women, right? TeamPooka Aug 2018 #39
If I posted that at FR - I would be terminated. hexola Aug 2018 #40
Thanks, you understand my point. n/t phylny Aug 2018 #20
Oh - I understand too hexola Aug 2018 #34
Thanks, I didn't really think it was too picky. Just didn't want to get into it, seeing phylny Aug 2018 #19
Maybe theToxic masculinity is preventing hex from understanding this issue You are right here phylny TeamPooka Aug 2018 #23
Good lord - Hanz & Franz is a parody of "toxic masculinity" hexola Aug 2018 #35
thank you for this LSFL Aug 2018 #10
You mean like when the Steelers last week visited Lambeau Field? Archae Aug 2018 #16
doesn't matter LSFL Aug 2018 #28
Because... nobody gives a shit? Initech Aug 2018 #25
imho football is over done. Who has time to block off those kinds of hours Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #26
I'm with you. GoCubsGo Aug 2018 #27
NFL Destroys Hockey on TV. The Stanley Cup final had about 7 million viewers..... USALiberal Aug 2018 #29
So, what's your point? GoCubsGo Aug 2018 #31
Thank goodness..... USALiberal Aug 2018 #38
Awwwww!!! Bless your heart! GoCubsGo Aug 2018 #41
I prefer hockey. I'm w you. Baseball is such nice calm game. Crack of the bat etc. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #45
Yeah, they're polar opposites. GoCubsGo Aug 2018 #48
Wait, football has too much standing around, but baseball doesn't? mythology Aug 2018 #30
I thought the same thing! Nt USALiberal Aug 2018 #37
Then Don't Watch It, C ProfessorGAC Aug 2018 #42
Arizona had empty seats at Sun Devil stadium JonLP24 Aug 2018 #43
Cool For You! ProfessorGAC Aug 2018 #44
There's irony in mispelling the word "moron." earthshine Aug 2018 #47
It certainly is ironic. GoCubsGo Aug 2018 #49
LOL ck4829 Aug 2018 #50
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