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Mon Aug 20, 2018, 04:17 PM

The moment America-hating Freepers realize they are clueless girlymen about NFL football

HA! Morans!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3680731/posts

Where are stories on NFL attendance.
I have googled everywhere, searched everywhere, even here at Free Republic?

The silence is deafening. I have never experienced a greater example of propaganda by omission.

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Reply The moment America-hating Freepers realize they are clueless girlymen about NFL football (Original post)
hexola Aug 20 OP
Cary Aug 20 #1
hexola Aug 20 #4
workinclasszero Aug 21 #46
Different Drummer Aug 20 #2
hexola Aug 20 #3
phylny Aug 20 #5
hexola Aug 20 #6
phylny Aug 20 #7
hexola Aug 20 #8
phylny Aug 20 #9
hexola Aug 20 #11
edhopper Aug 20 #12
hexola Aug 20 #13
TeamPooka Aug 20 #21
hexola Aug 20 #33
Ohiogal Aug 20 #14
hexola Aug 20 #15
Caliman73 Aug 20 #17
hexola Aug 20 #18
TeamPooka Aug 20 #22
hexola Aug 20 #36
Caliman73 Aug 20 #24
hexola Aug 20 #32
TeamPooka Aug 20 #39
hexola Aug 20 #40
phylny Aug 20 #20
hexola Aug 20 #34
phylny Aug 20 #19
TeamPooka Aug 20 #23
hexola Aug 20 #35
LSFL Aug 20 #10
Archae Aug 20 #16
LSFL Aug 20 #28
Initech Aug 20 #25
Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 20 #26
GoCubsGo Aug 20 #27
USALiberal Aug 20 #29
GoCubsGo Aug 20 #31
USALiberal Aug 20 #38
GoCubsGo Aug 21 #41
Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 21 #45
GoCubsGo Aug 21 #48
mythology Aug 20 #30
USALiberal Aug 20 #37
ProfessorGAC Aug 21 #42
JonLP24 Aug 21 #43
ProfessorGAC Aug 21 #44
earthshine Aug 21 #47
GoCubsGo Aug 21 #49
ck4829 Aug 25 #50

Response to hexola (Original post)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 04:24 PM

1. Is FreeRepublic still around?

ZZZZzzzzzz.......

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Response to Cary (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 04:27 PM

4. Its the link from Drudge that has kept the light on Im sure

Been there since the beginning.

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Response to Cary (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 21, 2018, 09:08 AM

46. Just for parody purposes

Itís funny to watch rimjobs now continuous beg-a-thons.

He ran off all the non insane gopers so his quarterly? extortions last forever now lol.

Republicans and religious right theocrats have betrayed everything they ever claimed to stand for in service to their traitor king Dump.

Itís fun to see them bleeting sheeplike on freakrepublic sometimes.

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Response to hexola (Original post)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 04:24 PM

2. Someone must have pulled it.

When I clicked on the link above, the following message appeared:

"The requested document does not exist on this server."

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Response to Different Drummer (Reply #2)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 04:26 PM

3. FIxed thank you

Forgot to test my link!

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Response to hexola (Original post)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 04:31 PM

5. Girlymen?

What does this mean, exactly?

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Response to phylny (Reply #5)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 04:33 PM

6. Old SNL reference - Hans & Franz

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Response to hexola (Reply #6)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 04:37 PM

7. Yeah, I remember.

I find it offensive. "Girls" don't understand football? "Men" who are "girly" are...what?

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Response to phylny (Reply #7)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 04:39 PM

8. Sorry

I guess I think of all those Freeper people as men.

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Response to hexola (Reply #8)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 04:42 PM

9. They may well be men,

but calling them "girlymen" makes it sound like there's something to make fun of with either females or less masculine men. It might just be me. Maybe I'm being picky

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Response to phylny (Reply #9)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 04:45 PM

11. I think you're being picky...

Read the title of the post in the Martin Short voice...maybe that will help!

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Response to hexola (Reply #11)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 04:53 PM

12. You mean

Dana Carvey. And he is going to pump.....you up.

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Response to edhopper (Reply #12)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 04:58 PM

13. HA!

Thank you!

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Response to hexola (Reply #11)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 06:12 PM

21. After the explaination that your post is sexist, your response is the commenter is being picky?

You gonna stick with that stance or are you going to take a moment to try to understand that viewpoint?

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #21)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 10:20 PM

33. Um no - that was the commenter's suggestion

And my affirmation

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Response to phylny (Reply #9)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 05:00 PM

14. I agree with you phylny

I've heard it before -- calling a man "girly" is meant as an insult. Some athetic coaches call their boys "girls" meaning to demean them. It's insulting and demeaning to girls. You're not being too picky. It's not funny.

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Response to Ohiogal (Reply #14)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 05:02 PM

15. Yes - it is meant as an insult!!!

Do you think Im complimenting Freepers for their NFL Stance?

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Response to hexola (Reply #15)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 05:11 PM

17. What is the insult though? Think about it.

Hans & Franz were a parody on Schwartzenegger and the body building culture in the 80-90's however, the phrase "girlymen" was their way (however much of a parody it was) to indicate that men who are not hyper masculine or who have "feminine" traits are abnormal.


Think of it this way. When you insult some guy by saying, "You hit/throw/run like a girl", what is the mechanism of the insult? What is the operational word that would/should make that man feel embarrassment?

When my kids do something unethical or selfish I tell them, "you are being a Trump". They say, "don't say that dad, I'm going to share" or whatever I called them out on. Why? Because being compared to Trump is an insult in my family.

When you say, "girlyman" the comparison of a man to a girl is supposed to be the insult. That is what the other respondents were pointing out.

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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #17)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 05:36 PM

18. Parody is the keyword - you're analyzing it like Hanz & Franz is a drama

The funny part was Hanz & Franz were the abnormal ones!

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Response to hexola (Reply #18)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 06:12 PM

22. Hans and Franz were the parody. You are editorializing. Understand the difference

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #22)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 10:32 PM

36. Yes I am editorializing - with a known comedy/satire reference

And mocking a group of people who hate America and everyone who is not white and straight.

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Response to hexola (Reply #18)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 06:16 PM

24. Yes, but you used it in your OP as an insult to conservatives.

That was apart from the Hans & Franz reference.

I am analyzing it from the perspective of where the "insult" comes from.

If I say, "That is retarded" or "You're retarded" or similarly, "That is so gay" or like I said in my initial response, "You throw like a girl". I am implying that the object of my attack is "less than" that something is wrong with them and I am doing it by comparing them with a whole class of human beings.

When I was an adolescent, I used "gay" as an insult. My sister, who was best friends with a gay man, who I really grew to like and respect, pointed that out to me and asked me if I meant to insult our friend. That was when I realized that the insult was meant in the comparison.

I worked for many many years with intellectually disabled people and again, realize that when people say, "That/You're retarded" they likely mean that the object of the insult has done something that is not intelligent or a good choice. However, the insult lies in the comparison between a typically functioning person, and a person who is functioning below the typical IQ level. When you realize that the insult is in comparison to an actual person, with challenges, who is just trying to live their life, it changes.

That is the point, that has nothing to do with Hans & Franz, parody, or drama. It has to do with US being aware that language an associations have meaning that affect other people's lives, and then choosing insults that are not based on the innate attributes of groups of people, like women, gay people, or intellectually disabled people.

It makes it more difficult sometimes to insult people when our options are limited, but it is worth it so that we don't disparage a whole segment of the population with our insults.

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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #24)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 10:16 PM

32. You do realize FreeRepublic has an anti-gay agenda?

My post was clearly aimed at members of the FreeRepublic website...all of them...men and women.

Have you ever written to NBC to protest Hanz & Franz?

It's far short of calling anyone "gay" or "retarded" - nowhere near as overt - and clearly a reference to a comedy sketch.

It's a known cultural reference - like the Simpson's Nelson "HA HA"

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Response to hexola (Reply #32)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 11:36 PM

39. So when you call freepers "girlymen" you mean to demean them by comparing them to women, right?

You also claim your post was aimed at freepers but it is posted here at DU, a place where vintage misogyny thrown around casually is not appreciated, it is not posted at freeperville, the "targets" of your barb.

There is a lot of humor from 25-30 years ago that isn't an appropriate cultural reference anymore.

It is clear to me that the complaint voiced and fully explained by others is either beyond your grasp intellectually or you are intentionally provoking the issue with your obstinate responses.
either way. that's why I blocked your ass after this post.

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #39)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 11:40 PM

40. If I posted that at FR - I would be terminated.

In real life they would probably just kill me dead.

Please write to NBC to have Hans & Franz censored.

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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #17)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 05:54 PM

20. Thanks, you understand my point. n/t

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Response to phylny (Reply #20)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 10:21 PM

34. Oh - I understand too

I just think you're wrong.

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Response to Ohiogal (Reply #14)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 05:53 PM

19. Thanks, I didn't really think it was too picky. Just didn't want to get into it, seeing

I probably would not get my point across

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Response to phylny (Reply #19)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 06:15 PM

23. Maybe theToxic masculinity is preventing hex from understanding this issue You are right here phylny

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #23)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 10:23 PM

35. Good lord - Hanz & Franz is a parody of "toxic masculinity"

Why can't you see the satire here...?

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Response to hexola (Original post)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 04:43 PM

10. thank you for this

It is a stark example of the bubble these folks live in. When Superbowl commercials are 10 bucks a minute maybe then I will believe the pathetic trump boycott is effective.
At worst they are shedding a lot of moronic fans.

Come to think of it, I doubt many of these anecdotal fans are even real. No political stance of any player would make me eschew my Steelers. Pittsburgh for life beotches!

Its about football. Jeesh.

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Response to LSFL (Reply #10)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 05:07 PM

16. You mean like when the Steelers last week visited Lambeau Field?

(snrrrk)

Seriously, I'd like it if all the NFL teams were run like the Packers, the owners are the FANS.

Not some big ego like Jerry Jones.

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Response to Archae (Reply #16)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 08:08 PM

28. doesn't matter

Steelers for life. Matters even less in the preseason. It's football. The toy store of life is sports. Politics or religion don't get into my toy chest.
Go Stillers!
(I actually like Aaron Rogers. And I hope I spelled both of that lovable magnificent bastard's names wrong)
But seriously....Tom Brady???? A guy his age? *cough*roids*cough.

Ain't even saying it is wrong....but there it is Let he who has eyes see.
Don't try to change me ..the Curtain could devour a child during the coin flip and I would be on board.

Just trying to point out how loyalty to a particular sport or team does not define one morally or politically. Don't let the sons of shit Reps taint all we enjoy by letting them stain it with bullshit.

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Response to hexola (Original post)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 06:23 PM

25. Because... nobody gives a shit?

This whole NFL anthem thing is the textbook definition of a "nothingburger".

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Response to hexola (Original post)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 06:45 PM

26. imho football is over done. Who has time to block off those kinds of hours

on the weekends? Just never was important to me....like hockey.

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Response to Crutchez_CuiBono (Reply #26)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 07:27 PM

27. I'm with you.

I'd much rather watch hockey, too. And, baseball. I never understood the big attraction to football, let alone understand why people spend entire weekends in front of the TV watching it. The players stand around for eternity. They run for a few seconds and jump on top of each other. Rinse, lather, repeat. I'll take the sports that don't need cheerleaders to make things interesting.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #27)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 08:19 PM

29. NFL Destroys Hockey on TV. The Stanley Cup final had about 7 million viewers.....

Many average NFL regular season games has double that.

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #29)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 09:47 PM

31. So, what's your point?

That I should watch something I have absolutely no interest in watching because it "destroys" a sport I do like in the ratings? Thanks, but no thanks.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #31)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 10:35 PM

38. Thank goodness.....

There is no standing around and boring moments in baseball. LOL

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #38)

Tue Aug 21, 2018, 06:23 AM

41. Awwwww!!! Bless your heart!

Why do you get so bent out of shape by people who don't like football? Why so defensive? And, again, what was your point about ratings?

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #41)

Tue Aug 21, 2018, 08:53 AM

45. I prefer hockey. I'm w you. Baseball is such nice calm game. Crack of the bat etc.

Funny how folks tribe up. Even over sports. Hockey has much more talent involved. Baseball has the quiet of golf w the crack of the bat and announcers. ALL of it has too many commercials.

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Response to Crutchez_CuiBono (Reply #45)

Tue Aug 21, 2018, 09:25 AM

48. Yeah, they're polar opposites.

If I was forced to choose, I would give the edge to hockey, as well. But, it's nice to have baseball waiting when the hockey playoffs end, especially for the calmness. It's good therapy after your hockey team makes a deep playoffs run. I'd say that baseball involves an awful lot of talent, as well. The hand-eye coordination they need is on par with that of a hockey player, as is the strength, speed, and quick-thinking. And, yeah. I agree on the "too many commercials" thing, too.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #27)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 09:07 PM

30. Wait, football has too much standing around, but baseball doesn't?

 

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Response to mythology (Reply #30)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 10:33 PM

37. I thought the same thing! Nt

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Response to Crutchez_CuiBono (Reply #26)

Tue Aug 21, 2018, 06:53 AM

42. Then Don't Watch It, C

Geez, that was hardly the point of this thread.

The fact is that there are still waiting lists for tickets at several NFL stadiums. And the places with empty seats were places that ALWAYS had empty seats, like Jacksonville, Nashville, Arizona, etc. Ask a Bills fan how easy it is to get tickets directly from the team. Or Bears fans. Or Packers fans.

The NFL is in ZERO financial straits because of the stupid "boycott".

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #42)

Tue Aug 21, 2018, 07:01 AM

43. Arizona had empty seats at Sun Devil stadium

But ever since they opened that stadium in Glendale they have had consecutive sellouts especially during the Bush recession. They don't have a waiting list like Denver or Green Bay but they almost always reach the threshold where they aren't blacked out like in the Sun Devil Stadium days.

It is not comparable to Jacksonville who suffered seasons of blackouts which hurts ticket sales. It is why Arizona had trouble selling tickets because they were blacked out all the time.

I bought tickets to the Seattle game weeks in advance myself. Never been there but now I have a car so I can make the trip.

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Response to JonLP24 (Reply #43)

Tue Aug 21, 2018, 07:32 AM

44. Cool For You!

There were Bears tickets available at the tail end of the last couple seasons here, because they were awful and we had early winters. So season ticket holders were selling off at face value.

But, if they are worth a darn, it's nearly impossible to get those tickets without paying a huge added margin.

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Response to hexola (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2018, 09:23 AM

47. There's irony in mispelling the word "moron."

Just sayin'.

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Response to earthshine (Reply #47)

Tue Aug 21, 2018, 09:30 AM

49. It certainly is ironic.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #49)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 04:56 AM

50. LOL

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