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Civic Justice

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Mon Jun 25, 2018, 12:49 PM Jun 2018

Should we Ask Our Military to Protect Us, from Enemies Foreign and Domestic? [View all]

We Have a Domestic Enemy, in Trump and the Republican Congress.

Should we Ask Our Military to Protect Us, from Enemies Foreign and (these) Domestic Enemies? "Republicans and Trump"


All of the 10's of Thousands to the 100's of thousands including the "Specialty Trained U.S. Military members, may consider the scope of their duty, which is to protect this country from its Enemies, Foreign and Domestic... and Recognize the Enemy is a "Domestic Enemy of the People and the Nation, that Domestic Enemy is: "TRUMP AND THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS. Our Military Leaders must identify the enemy and in doing so, they have sworn duty to protect and defend, by necessary actions.
They too see, (unless they have become blinded) the daily attack our Democracy, they Attack the Civility of our society, and threaten our Democracy and Assault with Willful Vile Intent and Vile Actions upon and against the Civil Dignity that the Declaration of Independence Stands For and What Our United States Constitution Supports, and do... what is the duty, in what our trained Military is Sworn to do, in aims and efforts of endeavors to Uphold and Defend, the United States and Its System of Democracy..

Our Own United States Military Members, is of duty the ones who must fight the battles we as citizens can't fight. They have all the tools to deal with threats and attacks upon our nation and its institution.

Trump has attacked everything from our Military performance in Iraq, to Insulting and Attacking Our Intellegence Agency, To Attacking Members of his own party, with threat and belligerent defamation's, he even attack our National Professional Sports Programs, and has incessant Attacked The Press, and Continues to Attack every aspect of our Soceiety, including our Long Term Allies, To Attacking Our Global Trading Partners, to Now Attacking Helpless Asylum Seekers and Being Like a Vile Tyrant Seperating Kids from their Parents. Her has looted our Treasury, which carries a National Debt of over 20 Trillion Dollars, and given 1.x Trillion to the wealthy, and disgraced our Supreme Court Nominee Process, by attacking the Rules and Installing a Puppet On the Court.

DO WE REALIZE, we have a "enemy and he is a domestic enemy to and against everything America has worked 100's of years to build and sustain. We go around the world with our Military to Remove such types from their perch in foreign lands, and maybe now we need our own Military to remove an Enemy from the Perch in the American Executive and Congress.

These are the same aggression's that Hitler Engaged Upon and Against Germany, and Ethic People he had Racist and Prejudiced Aims to Attack.


We have to realize why the Founding Fathers included the phrase... To Protect This Nations from its Enemies, Foreign and Domestic.

Now, we are faced with a Domestic Enemy in Our Executive Office and Throughout of United States Congress.

Our Collective Body of Congress should be able to call up the Military Forces and March In and Remove the President, His Cabinet and the Entirety of the Republican Congress... and it will be Justified by Our Own Declarations of Independence.

(Maybe people need to Re-Read: The Want, Will, and Hopes of the People -

THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE

IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

New Hampshire:
Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple, Matthew Thornton

Massachusetts:
John Hancock, Samuel Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry

Rhode Island:
Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery

Connecticut:
Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott

New York:
William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris

New Jersey:
Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark

Pennsylvania:
Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross

Delaware:
Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean

Maryland:
Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton

Virginia:
George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton

North Carolina:
William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn

South Carolina:
Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton

Georgia:
Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton



THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION

Valuable words, are these:

I __________ will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;


All Our Military People Take This Oath of Pledge.
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Posse comitatus. The military can't be used for domestic law enforcement. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2018 #1
Right? (n/t) FreepFryer Jun 2018 #3
Choice to do so... Civic Justice Jun 2018 #19
The choice being law versus opinion. LanternWaste Jun 2018 #29
No offense, but this post is bullshit, encourages illegal behavior & smells like foreign influence. FreepFryer Jun 2018 #2
It probably would be bullshit if it made any sense at all, The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2018 #4
Excellent point. Cogent, brief, clear, and without bullshit capitalizations meant to Invoke The Past FreepFryer Jun 2018 #8
Its about REMOVING TRUMP..... !!!! Geez.... Civic Justice Jun 2018 #5
you are advocating a military coup d'etat????? Exotica Jun 2018 #15
I'm not pulling it... what do you think makes America Immune to anything? Civic Justice Jun 2018 #16
A military coup of ANY sort is the end of America as we know it. Exotica Jun 2018 #24
Lol the military isn't going to remove trump DetroitLegalBeagle Jun 2018 #6
We knows its not likely, but we don't have the luxury of taking it off the table. Civic Justice Jun 2018 #7
Oh, now your argument pivots, & others' disagreement w your bullshit is about race? Sorry, NO. (n/t) FreepFryer Jun 2018 #9
Race is Always a matter within anything Concerning America ... Civic Justice Jun 2018 #11
YET You Mentioned Nothing About race in your Original POst. Evasive RefraMing is BS. (n/t) FreepFryer Jun 2018 #12
Only because you limit your own thinking... Civic Justice Jun 2018 #13
No, it's because your arguments are inconsistent and such shifts make them appear dishonest. (n/t) FreepFryer Jun 2018 #14
you don't have to like it... if you got a different one then write it out. Civic Justice Jun 2018 #17
Actually, I did. I pointed out your idea was illegal, ahistorical and dangerous. (n/t) FreepFryer Jun 2018 #18
do you think its any less dangers with the neo nazi's and white nationaist being embolden Civic Justice Jun 2018 #21
Odd that it's now so much about race, given that your OP makes NO MENTION of race (n/t) FreepFryer Jun 2018 #22
It's the fall back position with this one. Disagree with it and you're a racist. Marengo Jun 2018 #30
Sad! (n/t) FreepFryer Jun 2018 #32
Learn how to read... I did not call him or you a racist.. Civic Justice Jun 2018 #35
Bullshit. I read you perfectly clear when you suggested I sound like a Jim Crow racist for daring... Marengo Jun 2018 #37
yup thats the way i read it too (n/t) FreepFryer Jun 2018 #48
people said "not a chance in hell" about Trump... when he was campaigning, "where is he today" Civic Justice Jun 2018 #57
The military voted for Trump and will again, and many presidents, including Obama braddy Jun 2018 #10
Horrific to see this being promoted here. NCTraveler Jun 2018 #20
It should be alerted as "right wing talking points," but it might not pass the vote. (n/t) FreepFryer Jun 2018 #23
you have nothing but complaints. Civic Justice Jun 2018 #26
Or more likely absurd ideas should be pointed out as such. LanternWaste Jun 2018 #33
I'm going to the art store to buy a frame for this comment. A thing of beauty. (n/t) FreepFryer Jun 2018 #34
Do you understand what the heading was of the OP is: IT IS A QUESTION. Civic Justice Jun 2018 #36
I decided on both "kooky and extremist"... Hekate Jun 2018 #43
Sounds about right, and sounds about right. Either way we need some socks darned around here (n/t) FreepFryer Jun 2018 #44
Do we understand what " Options are"? Civic Justice Jun 2018 #25
I fully understand what "options" are. NCTraveler Jun 2018 #28
Absolutely right. (n/t) FreepFryer Jun 2018 #31
Well if you are so adept at options... Civic Justice Jun 2018 #38
"Vile" is never used as a noun. Just curious, what is your native language? (n/t) FreepFryer Jun 2018 #46
That caught my eye as well. Can't be bothered to actually edit that screed... Hekate Jun 2018 #58
Looking forward to your next post berating DU for not genuflecting to your brilliance. Marengo Jun 2018 #27
And so wordy Hekate Jun 2018 #40
YOU fundamentally misunderstand both the US Constitution and world history... Hekate Jun 2018 #39
No, the language is quite clear. Civic Justice Jun 2018 #41
Your posts' language is not clear, it's awful - un-American both in grammar and concept. (n/t) FreepFryer Jun 2018 #47
if you want to teach English, I'm not your candidate. Civic Justice Jun 2018 #49
Quality of words & argumentation matters. Yours here are sorely lacking beyond any instruction. FreepFryer Jun 2018 #51
I'm not sure whether to go with "right wing talking points" or "kooky and extremist"... Hekate Jun 2018 #42
I find it absurd, that people are incapable of concept and perspective,to think it impossible Civic Justice Jun 2018 #50
Run along and pick up your paycheck. Your work here is done. Hekate Jun 2018 #52
Nothing says democratic sarisataka Jun 2018 #45
"No its not !" as long as the Office of Presidency is Transient based on 4 yrs per term Civic Justice Jun 2018 #54
Oh, sure, you can ask.... Fla_Democrat Jun 2018 #53
Guess you don't remember George Wallace's statement Civic Justice Jun 2018 #55
Are you back already? Fla_Democrat Jun 2018 #56
Thou hath disrupted... poorly. nt stevenleser Jun 2018 #59
Yet he hath risen from the grave. Hekate Jun 2018 #62
THE BIG IDEA: Civic Justice Jun 2018 #60
Is your point that in order to save democracy we have to kill it? Hekate Jun 2018 #61
please use a sense of perspective understanding when reading Civic Justice Jun 2018 #63
Oh I have perspective all right. I just have to wonder where you are coming from... Hekate Jun 2018 #64
you don't have to wonder... I've written it out already...inclusive with formatting.. Civic Justice Jun 2018 #65
What happens when it fails? kudzu22 Jun 2018 #66
Kennedy's SCOTUS retirement is triggering the crazy posts around here Devil Child Jun 2018 #67
if you did not read the multiple times I've explained that the post is a question, Civic Justice Jun 2018 #68
It is a leading question and based off the content of your post I can only assume you are advocating Devil Child Jun 2018 #69
assume what you want... I painted a perspective scenario, based on the question.... Civic Justice Jun 2018 #70
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