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deminks

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Thu Feb 22, 2018, 11:23 PM Feb 2018

The Second Amendment was ratified to preserve slavery [View all]

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/second-amendment-ratified-preserve-slavery/#.Wo-FQVn1Fvo.twitter

Thom Hartmann, AlterNet
22 Feb 2018 at 22:05 ET

The real reason the Second Amendment was ratified, and why it says “State” instead of “Country” (the Framers knew the difference – see the 10th Amendment), was to preserve the slave patrol militias in the southern states, which was necessary to get Virginia’s vote. Founders Patrick Henry, George Mason, and James Madison were totally clear on that . . . and we all should be too.

In the beginning, there were the militias. In the South, they were also called the “slave patrols,” and they were regulated by the states.

In Georgia, for example, a generation before the American Revolution, laws were passed in 1755 and 1757 that required all plantation owners or their male white employees to be members of the Georgia Militia, and for those armed militia members to make monthly inspections of the quarters of all slaves in the state. The law defined which counties had which armed militias and even required armed militia members to keep a keen eye out for slaves who may be planning uprisings.

As Dr. Carl T. Bogus wrote for the University of California Law Review in 1998, “The Georgia statutes required patrols, under the direction of commissioned militia officers, to examine every plantation each month and authorized them to search ‘all Negro Houses for offensive Weapons and Ammunition’ and to apprehend and give twenty lashes to any slave found outside plantation grounds.”

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By the time the Constitution was ratified, hundreds of substantial slave uprisings had occurred across the South. Blacks outnumbered whites in large areas, and the state militias were used to both prevent and to put down slave uprisings. As Dr. Bogus points out, slavery can only exist in the context of a police state, and the enforcement of that police state was the explicit job of the militias.

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Guns in America are still about hatred and racism. Hoyt Feb 2018 #1
Regardless quartz007 Feb 2018 #4
Most gun owners, particularly fanatics, are white wing racists. Hoyt Feb 2018 #6
Right, a handgun is better at quartz007 Feb 2018 #11
Why would anybody hide a weapon under a pillow? former9thward Feb 2018 #20
Not if one is sleeping quartz007 Feb 2018 #47
Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #13
Defending themselves against white wing racist gun-humpers. Hoyt Feb 2018 #15
You know that is not true - you have seen the FBI stats hack89 Feb 2018 #16
I know this is representative of more gunners than you care to admit. Hoyt Feb 2018 #42
+6000000 7wo7rees Feb 2018 #48
K&R brush Feb 2018 #2
So why did states like Vermont and Pennsylvania pass their own version of the same? X_Digger Feb 2018 #3
They wanted slaves. Retrotech Feb 2018 #24
In New England, it had much more to do with Native Americans jberryhill Feb 2018 #28
Individuals owning guns in 18th century America Yupster Feb 2018 #34
That is correct jberryhill Feb 2018 #35
So if America has always been a land Yupster Feb 2018 #39
Not much - bombings used to be more common jberryhill Feb 2018 #46
True, much of the land was still 'frontier' to European settlers and appalachiablue Feb 2018 #37
The very same Vermont Constitution outlawed slavery. nt. Mariana Feb 2018 #32
Vermont?!? PA?!? Go back to history class, you must've slept through it. X_Digger Feb 2018 #44
For just one, Sojourner Truth (1797-1883) was born and held in slavery appalachiablue Feb 2018 #36
So why did the non-slave states have militias? Nt hack89 Feb 2018 #5
I can tell you why they have them now, they are white wing organizations that use guns to Hoyt Feb 2018 #9
Which is why most gun owners shun them. hack89 Feb 2018 #10
If you think any sane person loves a mass shooting... moriah Feb 2018 #25
It's an awful history for sure. When Reagan and James Brady were shot appalachiablue Feb 2018 #38
Maybe there were still some native Americans that had not been murdered ThoughtCriminal Feb 2018 #22
Check, or lawless 'troublemakers' of any background, whatever. appalachiablue Feb 2018 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author TryingNot2Freak Feb 2018 #41
NRA Plus AR-15's Continue to Enslave America Old Enough 2 Feb 2018 #7
Nonsense. Over in the old country, people were not allowed to hunt for food on the lord's (king's) Hestia Feb 2018 #8
Thats a new one. LexVegas Feb 2018 #14
This fucking country ellie Feb 2018 #12
That Nobel prize has got to be racist as well quartz007 Feb 2018 #17
Sounds great! ellie Feb 2018 #18
Ah who cares? This is 2018! Facts don't matter! Initech Feb 2018 #19
This writer at The Root disagrees. pnwmom Feb 2018 #21
Believe whatever makes you feel good. GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #23
I can't believe anyone still takes Hartmann Sailor65x1 Feb 2018 #26
I would strongly recommend Docreed2003 Feb 2018 #27
NRA showed what they are about with their Silence on Philando Castile JI7 Feb 2018 #29
I've suspected that was part of it. moondust Feb 2018 #30
The original story by Hartmann was published on Truthout lapucelle Feb 2018 #33
Fantasy doesn't help effect real change. SomethingNew Feb 2018 #40
Sure from Southerners point of view. aikoaiko Feb 2018 #43
Gunhumpers hate this. nt LexVegas Feb 2018 #45
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