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Why did support for a new AWB slip? Those that want one made the same mistakes the teabaggers did.

To wit:

1) They mistook the enthusiasm of those who already agreed with them for a groundswell of support, and

2) They tried to get everything they wanted, instead of trying to get what they plausibly could and working
from that. In other words, they are anti-reformists or what you might call "the good is the enemy of the perfect"
types. Extremists quickly became the public face of both movements.
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Fri Mar 29, 2013, 01:35 PM (54 replies)

Why are "gun safety advocates" so poor at actual gun safety?

First, we had this classic-with Dianne Feinstein's finger on the trigger and not looking where she's pointing
the muzzle of the gun she's holding...



Then we have Joe Biden advocating firing a shotgun through a closed door
without knowing what's on the other side...

The latest ones are from a couple of videos from Mayors Against Illegal Guns posted on YouTube.
The first one is entitled, with no irony intented, "Responsible"



Note the finger on the trigger and the muzzle held in an unsafe manner, as in
another video with the same purported "gun owner":



Gee, I wonder what the chances are of Mr. "Responsible" getting his Second Amendment rights
curtailed, as advocated here on another DU thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12621389

Answer: Slim to none, of course-he works for MAIG, and gun control is not for the likes of them
- just us.
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Wed Mar 27, 2013, 12:43 AM (31 replies)

The Venn Diagram of Irrational Nonsense

Found this by way of BoingBoing:

http://crispian-jago.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/the-venn-diagram-of-irrational-nonsense.html

Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Wed Mar 27, 2013, 12:25 AM (3 replies)

I like the term "National Republican Armory". Feel free to use it!

(And yes, 'armory' is the proper term, not 'arsenal'- one is where you keep the guns, the other is
where they are made)
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Mon Mar 25, 2013, 12:28 PM (5 replies)

For those who welcomed the entry of Michael Bloomberg into Democratic primary politics...

...and thus accepting Citizens United- a few words from the man himself ought to make you think twice about that:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/18/bloomberg-says-hes-focused-on-background-checks/

...Bloomberg's super PAC, Independence USA, spent $2 million in the recent Democratic primary for the Illinois special election to fill Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr.'s seat. The group successfully backed state Rep. Robin Kelly over former U.S. Rep. Debbie Halvorson, who opposed an assault weapons ban.

Asked if his efforts to influence political races were similar to actions taken by Charles and David Koch–the billionaire brothers who've been much maligned by opponents for injecting their wealth into the political scene–Bloomberg said he has no problem with what they're doing.

He added he knows David Koch well and argued Koch is simply tying to help "get the policies that he thinks would be better for society."

"He's using his own money. I have no problems with what he's doing. And I'm sure he wouldn't have any problems with what I've done," he said.


So what happens if and when he starts doing this in districts/states that aren't Democratic locks?
Will you still trust him then?

Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Thu Mar 21, 2013, 06:19 PM (45 replies)

"...I don't really care what limiting the scope of RKBA might cost the Democrats in votes."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/126263#post5

Anybody else feel this way? I certainly don't.
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Sun Mar 17, 2013, 03:42 PM (24 replies)

Meh. Teabagger squabbling with a Vichy Democrat.

Color me unmoved...
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Fri Mar 15, 2013, 09:18 PM (1 replies)

Boston Globe: Prospects limited for new gun control laws

http://bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2013/03/07/after-newtown-gun-control-push-gains-steam-both-and-off-capitol-hill/J5ETHo9Sq6tu6v3WC5tetL/story.html

Prospects limited for new gun control laws
By David Uberti
| Globe Correspondent

March 07, 2013

WASHINGTON — Advocates for stricter gun controls have more money this year, more energy, the president’s backing, and the national outrage over the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre on their side. But there already is a sense in Washington that they will have to settle for more modest gains in the months ahead than an assault weapons ban or sharp limits on magazine capacity.

Just how much the shootings last year in Newtown, Conn. — as well as the mass shooting in a movie theater in Aurora, ­Colo. — have changed the political climate will be tested Thursday when the Senate Judiciary Committee reviews a series of proposals to curb gun violence.

“If we don’t get [gun control] this time, we never will,” said Mayor Thomas M. Menino of Boston, who cochairs a gun-control advocacy group, Mayors Against Illegal Guns, with Mayor Michael Bloomberg of New York...


Too bad, Tommy...
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Thu Mar 7, 2013, 10:23 PM (8 replies)

West Virginia Democrats resist attempts at gun control

http://spiritofjefferson.com/blog/2013/03/manchin-zero-support-for-assault-weapons-ban/

Manchin: Zero support for assault weapons ban
March 6, 2013

CHARLES TOWN – Sen. Joe Manchin said in an interview Tuesday that groups running ads indicating that he supports sweeping gun control measures are not being truthful.

“Let me make it very clear: the only thing I’m working on is a criminal and mental background check,” Manchin said. “Anything else people have heard is basically a lie. They are just trying to get people excited and scared.”

Political pundits have wondered in recent weeks where centrist Democrats from Blue Dog states, like Manchin, will stand on an assault weapons ban and a bill limiting magazine capacity that are expected to be introduced during this congressional session.

Manchin said he is opposed to such measures himself and thinks they would not make it through the Senate.



http://spiritofjefferson.com/blog/2013/03/house-panel-advances-local-gun-ordinance-repeal/

House panel advances local gun ordinance repeal
March 7, 2013 | Filed under: latest headlines | Posted by: sojstaff

CHARLESTON (AP) — West Virginia would void local and county-wide gun laws under a measure endorsed Tuesday by the House Judiciary Committee, advancing it toward a vote by the full House of Delegates.

A non-unanimous voice vote approved the bill, which would make clear that only the Legislature can regulate firearms or ammunition.

The measure would strike down any ordinances inconsistent with state law, including several adopted in the 1990s by Charleston, the state’s largest city and its capital. Those limit handgun purchases to one per month, and require the buyer to wait 72 hours before receiving the weapon...

...A Republican, Jones also cited how sponsors of Tuesday’s bill include such Democrats as House Majority Leader Brent Boggs and Judiciary Chairman Tim Miley. In a state with high rates of gun ownership, Jones questioned whether that party was seeking to outmaneuver GOP lawmakers on the issue.


Hmm. I wonder who will be heard from first- the regional bigots or the "better pure than in power crowd"?

Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Thu Mar 7, 2013, 10:19 PM (3 replies)

Bill suggests anger management classes for those purchasing ammo

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/bill-suggests-anger-management-classes-those-purch/nWkbQ/


Bill suggests anger management classes for those purchasing ammo

The bill was filed less than a week ago and it would require anyone buying ammunition to take a two-hour anger management course.

Sen. Audrey Gibson of Jacksonville wrote the bill.

"You have to use your driver's license to purchase cold medications these days, but there is no mechanism for using a driver's license or no database on how much ammunition is out there."


Another video here:

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=2208032304001

The phrase "transvaginal ultrasound" come to anybody elses mind?

Different bugbear, same mindset...

Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Thu Mar 7, 2013, 06:55 PM (125 replies)
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