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No, you are wrong from jumping to conclusions again.

Never been an NRA member. If they just protected the Second Amendment, I might have joined in the past (I have been a member of the ACLU many times, and would send them $$$ again if I had them to spare...) But in recent decades, the NRA morphed into a cheerleader for abusive law enforcement and the War on (some) Drugs, while also being a mouthpiece for Republicans. Some of this is understandable, since Democrats have vacillated between being weak to truly awful on Second Amendment issues since the late 1960's, but it's still no excuse. And I value women's right to reproductive freedom, LGBTQ rights, privacy (another right where Democrats' record is mixed, but consistently better than Repubs), financial regulation (same), etc. all too much to ever willingly support Republicans at this stage.

Yes, I do believe that the NRA accepted and essentially laundered Russian money before and during the 2016 election, and I do believe that is a criminal offense. The fact that I share some measure of support for the Second Amendment with some NRA members is not enough for me to excuse or ignore this fact.

So, now you know.

-app

Freedumb!

This is exactly the location and circumstance where the freedom to petition the government for redress of grievance is absolutely necessary, yet here is the US Government acting like there is no such thing as the First Amendment. These US Forest lands belong to We the People. It's a crime to sacrifice them for a private pipeline, and beyond comprehension that protesting such on public lands should be restrained prior to even beginning.

I hope that this gets challenged and overturned in court.

k&r,

-app

A revolver on its own would have been inadequate.

I recommend that all DU'ers discussing gun issues and possible bans watch the full video (shared below) and read the full article at this link:

https://heavy.com/news/2018/02/tina-ring-ashley-lee-mom-daughter-tulsa-robbery-video/

I'll excerpt the allowed number of paragraphs, and provide some comments to get the discussion started.

A mother and daughter fought off a robber armed with a sawed-off shotgun at their family’s liquor store, shooting him multiple times before he fled, police say. The harrowing incident was caught on the store’s security cameras.


The daughter is seen working the register and the mother is initially off-screen when the robber enters brandishing a sawed-off shotgun. The women are then seen putting their hands up and otherwise peacefully complying with the robber as empties the register of its cash. He moves off screen, presumably exiting the store, but inexplicably returns, perhaps wanting to steal more. By this time, the younger woman has retrieved a revolver from under the counter and handed it to her mother, and also retrieved a small-caliber (perhaps .380?) semi-automatic pistol for herself.

Tina Ring, 53, and her daughter, Ashley Lee, 30, were working at Forest Acres Liquor in Tulsa, Oklahoma, on February 22 when the incident occurred. Police say the suspect, Tyrone Lee, checked himself in to a local hospital with four gunshot wounds and is expected to survive.

Both women shot Lee during the incident, police said.

“I think I’m still in shock,” Tina Ring told the Tulsa World on Saturday. “I don’t think I have really processed everything yet.”

The suspect is believed to be connected to a string of several armed robberies in the area in recent weeks, police said.


Tyrone's sawed-off shotgun was apparently unloaded, or this event could have turned out much more tragically. Nonetheless, the larger and stronger man was able to wrestle-away the revolver from the mother, fortunately only after she had emptied it of its ~5 rounds. But by that time, Tyrone had been hit at least twice with bullets fired by the women.

Tina Ring told the Tulsa World, “I didn’t want him to hurt my daughter. That was my main thought.” She said they tried to give him the money and get him out of the store, but then he came back.

“All I was thinking was ‘Just give him the money and go,’ and next thing I know, I see him back in my face,” Ring told the newspaper.

Ashley Lee told ABC News, her mother, “was all I could think about,” during the horrifying experience. During an interview Sunday, Ring said that Lee, “saved my life,” and her daughter responded, tears in her eyes, “you saved my life.”


These women acted as safely and responsibly as I could ever imagine. They initially complied with the assailant, they called 911 as soon as they could. They only fired their own weapons when the assailant reinitiated contact. And yet, a full load of a revolver was not enough to even slow the assailant down, and the rounds from the semi-automatic pistol were what allowed the two women to escape with their lives.

I'd really like to hear from the DU Chairborne Commando Brigade (Virtue Signaling Division) who have been telling me for over a week now that a revolver is plenty of protection, and that all semi-autos need to be banned...


Full video (graphic):

-app

This is just as bad as the Franken pile-on.

I oppose AWB's on grounds of individual liberty, and that they will not in fact reduce murders.

I can't imagine compliance with such a ridiculous law being particularly high even if a fair price was paid for each weapon turned-in, and the link makes no mention of how more than a hundred million firearms would be paid for.

But the details of my opposition aside, the mob mentality that has gripped many Democrats is truly chilling. There is a mad rush to delete one of the ten fundamental freedoms written into our founding national document. Like the rush to Deny Al Franken due process in the zeal for "Me too," this AWB madness will hurt many actual, progressive Democrats across the USA. I predict that Democrats will suffer at the polls once the media moves on to the next big story.

Meanwhile, I will continue to speak against this ill-advised policy proposal.

-app

Dionne's tune may change when it comes time to count votes.

Here in the mountains of NC, Hillary was written-off wholesale for her views on guns by all but my most urban neighbors (and where I live, the 'urban' environment is quite small).

I really think that this moment offers Democrats' a better opportunity to push for universal healthcare (to include vision, dental, and mental health of course, unlike most plans we have now where your eyes, teeth, and mind state are optional), publicly funded child care, family leave, better educational systems and support, and even a guaranteed basic income. Making this country more compassionate, with a wider safety net could reduce mass shootings much more effectively than any realistic gun control proposal I have heard.

Calling for gun bans satisfies some Democrats' visceral urge to "do something," but it is still an authoritarian and simplistic response to a broad and complex social problem of pain and alienation among the populace.

-app

One would think that any concept of actual freedom...

... would include the right of adults to choose how to manage their own bodies and psyches.

And in fact, this IS a part of my concept of freedom, which means that the USA is not yet free.

-app

Criminal Alex Azar confirmed as HHS Sec. with Democratic complicity

Republicans were two votes shy of making former Eli Lilly executive Alex Azar the next Secretary of Health and Human Services. 6 Democrats made it possible.

According to the roll call vote on the official U.S. Senate website, Senators Tom Carper (D-Delaware), Chris Coons (D-Delaware), Joe Donnelly (D-Indiana), Heidi Heitkamp (D-North Dakota), Doug Jones (D-Alabama) and Joe Manchin (D-West Virginia) all voted for Azar’s confirmation in the 55-43 vote. Senator Angus King (I-Maine), who caucuses with Democrats, also voted to confirm Azar. Republican Rand Paul was the lone GOP vote against Azar, with Senators Bob Corker (R-Tennessee) and John McCain (R-Arizona) not voting. If those 6 Democrats and Sen. King voted no, Azar’s confirmation would have failed.

Between 2012 and 2017, Azar was president of pharma giant Eli Lilly’s U.S. division, and oversaw dramatic increases in the prices of life-saving drugs — namely insulin. As Politico reported in November, Eli Lilly jacked up the price of its Humulin R U-500 drug by 325 percent between 2010 and 2015. That same article noted how despite President Trump’s campaigning on lowering prescription drug prices, Azar is a crusader against ideas that would make drug prices more competitive: [Azar]’s spoken out against studies known as comparative effectiveness research, used to determine which drugs are most cost-effective for treating patients with a disease. He argues that all options should be available since different patients may need different medicines. The problem however, is that if payers must make all drugs available, they have little leverage to negotiate lower drug prices with industry.

Azar has also served on the board of a company that specializes in helping public and private sector healthcare providers find loopholes to exploit in order to avoid paying health benefits. As GritPost contributor Ken Klippenstein recently reported in TYT Investigates, Azar served on the board of the Texas-based HMS Holdings Corp. between October of 2016 and November of 2017.

(Short article: just two more brief paragraphs at link)


Source: https://gritpost.com/6-democrats-pharma-hhs/

A unified Democratic front would have stopped this bastard. Why can't we ever seem to get a unified Democratic front when it matters?

Schumer needs to explain why he can't keep his caucus together on the most basic matters. And if he can't explain why, maybe we need a different minority leader.

-app

Stop with the scolding: Democrats NEED Independents

The majority of the voting-eligible public are either not affiliated with either Party, or did not vote at all during the last election.

SCOLDING most of America from your high horse will NOT bring them into the fold here.

-app

It's looking like both a moral and tactical failure.

Quoting (former DU'er) Will Pitt, "if you're going to do something like this, you stick it out longer than a goddam weekend, or you leave the club in the bag. With this, they failed on both a moral and tactical level. Just stupid self-damage."

I agree with Will here. As far as I am concerned, the DREAMERS are Americans, and deserve a pitched battle by all of us on their behalf. There really can be little debate about the morality without veering into Stephen Miller hater-land.

If a government shutdown was the right tactic, we should have been willing to stick it out for weeks. If it was the wrong tactic, why did we start here? I'll answer my own question at least partly: the CR was the first opportunity for leverage that Democrats had, and they chose to go to the mat over CHIP and DACA. There are about a dozen other issues I think are every bit as important as these two, and could have also been demanded, but I respect Democratic leaders' choice that these two deserve priority. Of the two, Democrats got CHIP for six years, which is no small potatoes (although a later Repub Congress could of course again de-fund it).

The problem with folding on DACA with no real progress on the issue is that there are 800,000 DREAMERS, and their families, AND the larger Hispanic and immigrants' rights communities who now have strong reason to think that Democrats will abandon them the minute the going gets tough. That's bad electoral politics, as well as being moral and tactical failures.

-app

This is the NC GOP trying to void elections forever.

An illegally-gerrymandered legislature wants to keep its power despite voters being against them, and they are trying to rig the courts at the state level with a gerrymandered judge elections scheme as well.

If the US Supreme Court fails to dismiss the NC GOP appeal, democracy of any sort will be finished in North Carolina. The Republican Legislature will choose its voters, and cement their decisions by also choosing the judges who will review their laws.

k&r,

-app
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